Popular Post Skeptable Posted October 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 This guy can lead. You can see why the Browns started winning when he took over and now they struggle... I know it's an uncommon opinion but I think this would be a much better team if he was HC and DC and Gase was just the OC. After hearing this press conference along with all the other interviews and presser he has done, I hope the Jets don't lose him, a bit old school, but knows what people need to be motivated. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Because he is a fraud. His personality wears on people quickly. There is a reason he doesn’t keep jobs very long. 1 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Baggage 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted October 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 I can’t imagine why. Just no explanation for it 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, Skeptable said: This guy can lead. You can see why the Browns started winning when he took over and now they struggle... I know it's an uncommon opinion but I think this would be a much better team if he was HC and DC and Gase was just the OC. After hearing this press conference along with all the other interviews and presser he has done, I hope the Jets don't lose him, a bit old school, but knows what people need to be motivated. We lose a few games with Darnold in and or the kid gets hurt because Gase leaves him in the pocket to get a radical traumatic spleenectomy on television? He will be OUR head coach. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, Butterfield said: Because he is a fraud. His personality wears on people quickly. There is a reason he doesn’t keep jobs very long. That doesn't make him a fraud. His success in fact speaks otherwise. However, I can see people under him wearing thin if they are insecure and soft. I myself would prefer a strong leader who doesn't coddle the people under him and calls it like it is. Once people stop being honest with themselves and those around them that is when you see organizations sink as everyone becomes complacent while patting each other on the back. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Because he’s massively overrated and hasn’t had any real success in a decade or more? 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: That doesn't make him a fraud. His success in fact speaks otherwise. However, I can see people under him wearing thin if they are insecure and soft. I myself would prefer a strong leader who doesn't coddle the people under him and calls it like it is. Once people stop being honest with themselves and those around them that is when you see organizations sink as everyone becomes complacent while patting each other on the back. I want Gase gone, there is no question about that but the next HC needs to be a guy that can develop Darnold. I love Williams as a DC or "HC A" but he isn't a guy that will develop Darnold as evidence with what is happening with Mayfield. He is really floundering this season because he basically had no direction. He is making rookie mistake, not securing the ball, locking onto his first read, no pocket presence to speak of. We need a guy that is going g to make sure Darnold develops into a legit pro. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whodeawhodat Posted October 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, Butterfield said: Because he is a fraud. His personality wears on people quickly. There is a reason he doesn’t keep jobs very long. I don't think you know what the word fraud means. He is prob too real in he says what everyone knows, football is a contact sport. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I want Gase gone, there is no question about that but the next HC needs to be a guy that can develop Darnold. I love Williams as a DC or "HC A" but he isn't a guy that will develop Darnold as evidence with what is happening with Mayfield. He is really floundering this season because he basically had no direction. He is making rookie mistake, not securing the ball, locking onto his first read, no pocket presence to speak of. We need a guy that is going g to make sure Darnold develops into a legit pro. So ? He (GW) brings in an OC who can develop Sam. No big deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I want Gase gone, there is no question about that but the next HC needs to be a guy that can develop Darnold. I love Williams as a DC or "HC A" but he isn't a guy that will develop Darnold as evidence with what is happening with Mayfield. He is really floundering this season because he basically had no direction. He is making rookie mistake, not securing the ball, locking onto his first read, no pocket presence to speak of. We need a guy that is going g to make sure Darnold develops into a legit pro. GW had his head on straight, now that GW is gone I would argue that is more evidence to the contrary that GW is the reason he preformed better. Now he looks clueless... Gregg Williams with Monken would have been awesome... Gregg Williams HC/DC promote Vitt to DC/ADC and Monken as OC... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Because being a HC is a lot more than just talking at a podium or screaming on a field? EDIT: only a dumbass would blindly buttfumble this. Someone butt hurt earlier. Loser 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Just a wild guess here...making someone a HC in the pathetic politically correct sh*thole that is the NFL that was suspended a year for paying players to injure opponents wouldn't be allowed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 Just now, Jet Nut said: Because being a HC is a lot more than just talking at a podium or screaming on a field? Agreed but performed extremely well when given the chance in Cleveland 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 Just now, section314 said: Just a wild guess here...making someone a HC in the pathetic politically correct sh*thole that is the NFL that was suspended a year for paying players to injure opponents wouldn't be allowed? He paid his dues move on 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: So ? He (GW) brings in an OC who can develop Sam. No big deal. Maybe he does, maybe we get someone like the last 10 OC's who have been through here. I don't want to risk Williams makes a good or bad choice at the position. I'd rather just get someone who can develop Sam as the HC so we know that guy is in place. I mean do you think Kitchens is doing a good job developing Mayfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Skeptable said: He paid his dues move on That is the gist of my post. The powers that be won't allow it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, Skeptable said: Agreed but performed extremely well when given the chance in Cleveland Dont get me wrong, I love him as a DC. Not one of the clueless who cant see what his defenses have done compared to the talent on those teams. I think the whole bounty gate fiasco hurt him, at least for a bit of time and now hes approaching that point where he may have to overcome those who want coaches from the offensive side of the ball and who want young. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 That said, if Washington isnt hell bent on a HC from the O side with Haskins being a priority, I could see them making push for Williams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Butterfield said: Because he is a fraud. His personality wears on people quickly. There is a reason he doesn’t keep jobs very long. I’m surprised at the negative reactions to your post. You’re not alone in your opinion. Williams has been a DC for like half a dozen teams. He’s good and I like him but there’s a reason he hasn’t stuck anywhere long term and hasn’t gotten many looks as a HC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I’m surprised at the negative reactions to your post. You’re not alone in your opinion. Williams has been a DC for like half a dozen teams. He’s good and I like him but there’s a reason he hasn’t stuck anywhere long term and hasn’t gotten many looks as a HC. Me too. We're in the early 'honeymoon' stage of his cycle. Those buttfumbling opinions that are skeptical of him now, will be leading the charge to get him canned lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Old school. Kids run the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 He's probably going to have have more wins as a HC than adam gase will have had for the last year and a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: I want Gase gone, there is no question about that but the next HC needs to be a guy that can develop Darnold. I love Williams as a DC or "HC A" but he isn't a guy that will develop Darnold as evidence with what is happening with Mayfield. He is really floundering this season because he basically had no direction. He is making rookie mistake, not securing the ball, locking onto his first read, no pocket presence to speak of. We need a guy that is going g to make sure Darnold develops into a legit pro. That's all I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: That's all I got. Fine, William's for HC. Make it happen. I'm sure Sam with blossom into the next Roger's under his tutelage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: I want Gase gone, there is no question about that but the next HC needs to be a guy that can develop Darnold. I love Williams as a DC or "HC A" but he isn't a guy that will develop Darnold as evidence with what is happening with Mayfield. He is really floundering this season because he basically had no direction. He is making rookie mistake, not securing the ball, locking onto his first read, no pocket presence to speak of. We need a guy that is going g to make sure Darnold develops into a legit pro. 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: Maybe he does, maybe we get someone like the last 10 OC's who have been through here. I don't want to risk Williams makes a good or bad choice at the position. I'd rather just get someone who can develop Sam as the HC so we know that guy is in place. I mean do you think Kitchens is doing a good job developing Mayfield? @greenwichjetfan and @Dcat I blame the two of you for this, LOL At least when you two do it, you do it well. The back and forth is fun. That doesn't absolve either one of you for the posts of those you've spawned with your evil actions, however. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightBoyz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Yea im pretty shocked he's never gotten a fair shot at an HC gig. Love his energy and passion but might rub organizations the wrong way with his ego. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: That said, if Washington isnt hell bent on a HC from the O side with Haskins being a priority, I could see them making push for Williams. Good call. Weren't they the team he was talking with last offseason when we were trying to finalize his deal? If I remember correctly, he was negotiating with both the Jets and the Skins for a DC position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 He would and should be HC of the Browns now but Dorsey didn't want someone with a personality as strong as Williams to challenge his complete control. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, FlightBoyz said: Yea im pretty shocked he's never gotten a fair shot at an HC gig. Love his energy and passion but might rub organizations the wrong way with his ego. He did have a fair shot, coaching the Bills to a stellar 17-31 record over the course of 3 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightBoyz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Green DNA said: He did have a fair shot, coaching the Bills to a stellar 17-31 record over the course of 3 years. You are correct sir. My mistake I apologize? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Big difference between running a team and scheming a defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Fire Gase, promote Williams to HC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, ECURB said: Big difference between running a team and scheming a defense. He did both effectively last year and is doing his best without CJ Mosely 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Green DNA said: He did have a fair shot, coaching the Bills to a stellar 17-31 record over the course of 3 years. Belichick had a losing record as HC before Brady 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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