Good point by Beningo about jets history of drafting WRs

[Philc1]

Last 3 Jets WRS drafted in round 1:

 

Santana Moss -  good player, would have been better if we had a qb who could throw past 5 yards

Keyshawn - top 3 WR while he was here

Al Toon - excellent player

 

The jets have actually been good at drafting top round WRs

[TNJet]

3 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Last 3 Jets WRS drafted in round 1:

 

Santana Moss -  good player, would have been better if we had a qb who could throw past 5 yards

Keyshawn - top 3 WR while he was here

Al Toon - excellent player

 

The jets have actually been good at drafting top round WRs

Thats nice. I'll take Wirfs at 11.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

I wonder if Joe Douglas looks at this and changes his board. Juedy at 11 it is. 

[Philc1]

2 minutes ago, TNJet said:

Thats nice. I'll take Wirfs at 11.

He won’t be there at 11

[Lith]

On the other hand, here is a list of the Top 10 WRs drafted by the Jets since the 1970 merger, based upon receiving yards:

Rk	Year	Rnd	Pick	Player	Pos	DrAge	From	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	GS	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	College/Univ
1	1996	1	1	Keyshawn Johnson	WR	24	1996	2006	0	3	10	78	167	162	13	91	2	814	10571	64	USC	College Stats
2	2001	1	16	Santana Moss	WR	22	2001	2014	0	1	8	73	197	135	51	287	0	732	10283	66	Miami (FL)	College Stats
3	1989	5	126	Tony Martin	WR	24	1990	2001	0	1	6	66	177	100	6	-3	0	593	9065	56
4	1990	6	140	Terance Mathis	WR	23	1990	2002	0	1	8	65	206	130	14	97	2	689	8809	63	New Mexico	College Stats
5	2000	3	78	Laveranues Coles	WR	22	2000	2009	0	1	9	67	153	138	37	231	0	674	8609	49	Florida St.	College Stats
6	1977	2	33	Wesley Walker	WR	22	1977	1989	1	2	11	73	154	129	6	35	0	438	8306	71	California	College Stats
7	2004	4	108	Jerricho Cotchery	WR	22	2004	2015	0	0	5	52	175	89	22	93	1	524	6623	34	North Carolina St.	College Stats
8	1985	1	10	Al Toon	WR	22	1985	1992	1	3	8	54	107	95	4	7	0	517	6605	31	Wisconsin	College Stats
9	1975	8	193	James Scott	WR	23	1976	1983	0	0	5	35	71	58	2	-4	0	177	3202	20	Trinity Valley CC (TX)
10	2011	5	153	Jeremy Kerley	WR	22	2011	2018	0	0	2	23	99	40	18	133	0	270	3116	13	TCU	College Stats

This is the best we have to show for 50 years of drafts.  2 guys, Tony Martin and James Scott, who never even played for the Jets.  Two more guys (Santana Moss and Terance Mathis) who did most of their damage with other teams.  That leaves 6 WRs out of 50 years of drafts with more than 3,000 receiving yards for the Jets.

I can't imagine that another team in the league could have an uglier list than this.

 

[ChuckkieB]

I really want a WR at 11, especially if it's between the best WR in the draft and the #4 OL.  Here's to hoping that the OL is addressed in a big way during free agency.  That being said, I'll be fine with and OL at 11 if they take a WR at 48.  Those two positions have to be the first two picks IMO. 

[TNJet]

12 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

He won’t be there at 11

I'll take Thomas/Wills/Becton/Jones at 11.

[New York Mick]

6 minutes ago, Lith said:

On the other hand, here is a list of the Top 10 WRs drafted by the Jets since the 1970 merger, based upon receiving yards:

Rk	Year	Rnd	Pick	Player	Pos	DrAge	From	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	GS	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	College/Univ
1	1996	1	1	Keyshawn Johnson	WR	24	1996	2006	0	3	10	78	167	162	13	91	2	814	10571	64	USC	College Stats
2	2001	1	16	Santana Moss	WR	22	2001	2014	0	1	8	73	197	135	51	287	0	732	10283	66	Miami (FL)	College Stats
3	1989	5	126	Tony Martin	WR	24	1990	2001	0	1	6	66	177	100	6	-3	0	593	9065	56
4	1990	6	140	Terance Mathis	WR	23	1990	2002	0	1	8	65	206	130	14	97	2	689	8809	63	New Mexico	College Stats
5	2000	3	78	Laveranues Coles	WR	22	2000	2009	0	1	9	67	153	138	37	231	0	674	8609	49	Florida St.	College Stats
6	1977	2	33	Wesley Walker	WR	22	1977	1989	1	2	11	73	154	129	6	35	0	438	8306	71	California	College Stats
7	2004	4	108	Jerricho Cotchery	WR	22	2004	2015	0	0	5	52	175	89	22	93	1	524	6623	34	North Carolina St.	College Stats
8	1985	1	10	Al Toon	WR	22	1985	1992	1	3	8	54	107	95	4	7	0	517	6605	31	Wisconsin	College Stats
9	1975	8	193	James Scott	WR	23	1976	1983	0	0	5	35	71	58	2	-4	0	177	3202	20	Trinity Valley CC (TX)
10	2011	5	153	Jeremy Kerley	WR	22	2011	2018	0	0	2	23	99	40	18	133	0	270	3116	13	TCU	College Stats

This is the best we have to show for 50 years of drafts.  2 guys, Tony Martin and James Scott, who never even played for the Jets.  Two more guys (Santana Moss and Terance Mathis) who did most of their damage with other teams.  That leaves 6 WRs out of 50 years of drafts with more than 3,000 receiving yards for the Jets.

I can't imagine that another team in the league could have an uglier list than this.

 

Unfortunately it’s like that at most positions. 

[Philc1]

6 minutes ago, TNJet said:

I'll take Thomas/Wills/Becton/Jones at 11.

I want a LT at 11 I’m concerned Wills might be a RT or Guard

 

If Becton or Thomas fall to 11 yes absolutely get one of them

 

[TNJet]

18 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

I want a LT at 11 I’m concerned Wills might be a RT or Guard

 

If Becton or Thomas fall to 11 yes absolutely get one of them

 

We have to take the best olinemen available regardless of position. Thats how crappy our line is. We owe it to Sam and Le'veon to get them the help they deserve. 

[Philc1]

Just now, TNJet said:

We have to take the best olinemen available regardless of position. Thats how crappy our line is. We owe it to Sam and Le'veon to get them the help they deserve. 

If Douglas is smart he overpays for Conklin and Thuney and we avoid that scenario

 

WR is an abyss for us

 

[Apache 51]

[jetstream23]

I posted something in the Draft forum a while ago showing that the Jets have been absolutely horrible at drafting WRs.  Doing okay while taking one in Round 1....and then failing with almost every other pick after Round 1 is not a good track record.

The Jets have been horrible and have picked the wrong WR or ignored good ones with almost every opportunity they've had in recent years.

 

[The Gooch]

From your lips to Gods ears Bro!!!!

[New York Mick]

1 hour ago, Philc1 said:

I want a LT at 11 I’m concerned Wills might be a RT or Guard

 

If Becton or Thomas fall to 11 yes absolutely get one of them

 

I want a starting OL that’s better then the current starters. 
It’s not a very high bar. 

[JoJoTownsell1]

2 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Last 3 Jets WRS drafted in round 1:

 

Santana Moss -  good player, would have been better if we had a qb who could throw past 5 yards

Keyshawn - top 3 WR while he was here

Al Toon - excellent player

 

The jets have actually been good at drafting top round WRs

You lost me at "good point by benigno."

[rangerous]

1 hour ago, Lith said:

On the other hand, here is a list of the Top 10 WRs drafted by the Jets since the 1970 merger, based upon receiving yards:

Rk	Year	Rnd	Pick	Player	Pos	DrAge	From	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	GS	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	College/Univ
1	1996	1	1	Keyshawn Johnson	WR	24	1996	2006	0	3	10	78	167	162	13	91	2	814	10571	64	USC	College Stats
2	2001	1	16	Santana Moss	WR	22	2001	2014	0	1	8	73	197	135	51	287	0	732	10283	66	Miami (FL)	College Stats
3	1989	5	126	Tony Martin	WR	24	1990	2001	0	1	6	66	177	100	6	-3	0	593	9065	56
4	1990	6	140	Terance Mathis	WR	23	1990	2002	0	1	8	65	206	130	14	97	2	689	8809	63	New Mexico	College Stats
5	2000	3	78	Laveranues Coles	WR	22	2000	2009	0	1	9	67	153	138	37	231	0	674	8609	49	Florida St.	College Stats
6	1977	2	33	Wesley Walker	WR	22	1977	1989	1	2	11	73	154	129	6	35	0	438	8306	71	California	College Stats
7	2004	4	108	Jerricho Cotchery	WR	22	2004	2015	0	0	5	52	175	89	22	93	1	524	6623	34	North Carolina St.	College Stats
8	1985	1	10	Al Toon	WR	22	1985	1992	1	3	8	54	107	95	4	7	0	517	6605	31	Wisconsin	College Stats
9	1975	8	193	James Scott	WR	23	1976	1983	0	0	5	35	71	58	2	-4	0	177	3202	20	Trinity Valley CC (TX)
10	2011	5	153	Jeremy Kerley	WR	22	2011	2018	0	0	2	23	99	40	18	133	0	270	3116	13	TCU	College Stats

This is the best we have to show for 50 years of drafts.  2 guys, Tony Martin and James Scott, who never even played for the Jets.  Two more guys (Santana Moss and Terance Mathis) who did most of their damage with other teams.  That leaves 6 WRs out of 50 years of drafts with more than 3,000 receiving yards for the Jets.

I can't imagine that another team in the league could have an uglier list than this.

 

lam jones was left off. he didn't beak into the top 10 in yardage.

[Jet_Engine1]

1 hour ago, TNJet said:

We have to take the best olinemen available regardless of position. Thats how crappy our line is. We owe it to Sam and Le'veon to get them the help they deserve. 

We don't owe LeVeon sh*t. Sorry. He's getting paid very well to be used like a rented mule for the next 2 years.

[TNJet]

1 hour ago, Philc1 said:

If Douglas is smart he overpays for Conklin and Thuney and we avoid that scenario

 

WR is an abyss for us

 

Not after Robby re-signs and Enunwa makes a full recovery.

[BROOKLYN JET]

I'm pretty sure it was Evan who made that point.

[Wonderboy]

2 hours ago, Lith said:

On the other hand, here is a list of the Top 10 WRs drafted by the Jets since the 1970 merger, based upon receiving yards:

Rk	Year	Rnd	Pick	Player	Pos	DrAge	From	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	GS	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	College/Univ
1	1996	1	1	Keyshawn Johnson	WR	24	1996	2006	0	3	10	78	167	162	13	91	2	814	10571	64	USC	College Stats
2	2001	1	16	Santana Moss	WR	22	2001	2014	0	1	8	73	197	135	51	287	0	732	10283	66	Miami (FL)	College Stats
3	1989	5	126	Tony Martin	WR	24	1990	2001	0	1	6	66	177	100	6	-3	0	593	9065	56
4	1990	6	140	Terance Mathis	WR	23	1990	2002	0	1	8	65	206	130	14	97	2	689	8809	63	New Mexico	College Stats
5	2000	3	78	Laveranues Coles	WR	22	2000	2009	0	1	9	67	153	138	37	231	0	674	8609	49	Florida St.	College Stats
6	1977	2	33	Wesley Walker	WR	22	1977	1989	1	2	11	73	154	129	6	35	0	438	8306	71	California	College Stats
7	2004	4	108	Jerricho Cotchery	WR	22	2004	2015	0	0	5	52	175	89	22	93	1	524	6623	34	North Carolina St.	College Stats
8	1985	1	10	Al Toon	WR	22	1985	1992	1	3	8	54	107	95	4	7	0	517	6605	31	Wisconsin	College Stats
9	1975	8	193	James Scott	WR	23	1976	1983	0	0	5	35	71	58	2	-4	0	177	3202	20	Trinity Valley CC (TX)
10	2011	5	153	Jeremy Kerley	WR	22	2011	2018	0	0	2	23	99	40	18	133	0	270	3116	13	TCU	College Stats

This is the best we have to show for 50 years of drafts.  2 guys, Tony Martin and James Scott, who never even played for the Jets.  Two more guys (Santana Moss and Terance Mathis) who did most of their damage with other teams.  That leaves 6 WRs out of 50 years of drafts with more than 3,000 receiving yards for the Jets.

I can't imagine that another team in the league could have an uglier list than this.

 

Enough! Bring back the best 2 wr’s we’ve ever had...Maynard and Sauer. 

[Lith]

34 minutes ago, rangerous said:

lam jones was left off. he didn't beak into the top 10 in yardage.

He was # 12.  Derrick Gaffney was 11.

[BettyBoop]

That Benigno is sharp as a tack! 

[jeremy2020]

3 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Last 3 Jets WRS drafted in round 1:

 

Santana Moss -  good player, would have been better if we had a qb who could throw past 5 yards

Keyshawn - top 3 WR while he was here

Al Toon - excellent player

 

The jets have actually been good at drafting top round WRs

Awesome. So glad to hear that given how much bearing it has...er...wait a second, is anyone involved with drafting those players still in the organization?

[TuscanyTile2]

3 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said:

I wonder if Joe Douglas looks at this and changes his board. Juedy at 11 it is. 

If the top OL are gone at 11 then I'm okay with taking Jeudy.  As badly as we need to upgrade the OL, we do need to get Darnold some real threats too.  WR is certainly a need.  Too many years go by where the Jets don't address their needs and we keep feeling like we're "at least 2 more years away".  If we can get a foundation WR that would solve a big problem going forward.  Heck, I wouldn't be against 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds (we have 2 3rd rounders).  It's too bad we won those meaningless games at the end of the season.  

[Jetscode1]

Maybe we need to just resign ourselves to draft another DT.  lol

Ugh.  Stop over thinking this. 

Really depends on how the board falls but the bigger question mark is "can JD draft quality players?"

[Jetscode1]

3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

If the top OL are gone at 11 then I'm okay with taking Jeudy.  As badly as we need to upgrade the OL, we do need to get Darnold some real threats too.  WR is certainly a need.  Too many years go by where the Jets don't address their needs and we keep feeling like we're "at least 2 more years away".  If we can get a foundation WR that would solve a big problem going forward.  Heck, I wouldn't be against 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds (we have 2 3rd rounders).  It's too bad we won those meaningless games at the end of the season.  

I would have upvoted your post but that avatar makes me ill.  

[Bowles Movement]

3 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Last 3 Jets WRS drafted in round 1:

 

Santana Moss -  good player, would have been better if we had a qb who could throw past 5 yards

Keyshawn - top 3 WR while he was here

Al Toon - excellent player

 

The jets have actually been good at drafting top round WRs

Rob Moore had a nice career too

[#27TheDominator]

3 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Last 3 Jets WRS drafted in round 1:

 

Santana Moss -  good player, would have been better if we had a qb who could throw past 5 yards

Keyshawn - top 3 WR while he was here

Al Toon - excellent player

 

The jets have actually been good at drafting top round WRs

Who told you Keyshawn was top 3 while he was here?  Top 3 but never better than 6th in any category?  Big mouthed target hog.  100% should have taken Ogden.

[TuscanyTile2]

19 minutes ago, Jetscode1 said:

I would have upvoted your post but that avatar makes me ill.  

I really do have to change it.  I was cycling through a bunch of avatars and got lazy and stuck with this one for the moment.  

[TuscanyTile2]

23 minutes ago, Jetscode1 said:

I would have upvoted your post but that avatar makes me ill.  

Done

[Jimmy 2 Times]

6 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

Rob Moore had a nice career too

He was no Brett Favre. 

[Dcat]

Quote

Good point by Beningo about .....

I stopped right there.

[slimjasi]

I'd personally love Jeudy at 11, but you really can't argue with taking any of the top OL prospects, should any of them be there. 

[#27TheDominator]

18 hours ago, Lith said:

On the other hand, here is a list of the Top 10 WRs drafted by the Jets since the 1970 merger, based upon receiving yards:

Rk	Year	Rnd	Pick	Player	Pos	DrAge	From	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	GS	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	College/Univ
1	1996	1	1	Keyshawn Johnson	WR	24	1996	2006	0	3	10	78	167	162	13	91	2	814	10571	64	USC	College Stats
2	2001	1	16	Santana Moss	WR	22	2001	2014	0	1	8	73	197	135	51	287	0	732	10283	66	Miami (FL)	College Stats
3	1989	5	126	Tony Martin	WR	24	1990	2001	0	1	6	66	177	100	6	-3	0	593	9065	56
4	1990	6	140	Terance Mathis	WR	23	1990	2002	0	1	8	65	206	130	14	97	2	689	8809	63	New Mexico	College Stats
5	2000	3	78	Laveranues Coles	WR	22	2000	2009	0	1	9	67	153	138	37	231	0	674	8609	49	Florida St.	College Stats
6	1977	2	33	Wesley Walker	WR	22	1977	1989	1	2	11	73	154	129	6	35	0	438	8306	71	California	College Stats
7	2004	4	108	Jerricho Cotchery	WR	22	2004	2015	0	0	5	52	175	89	22	93	1	524	6623	34	North Carolina St.	College Stats
8	1985	1	10	Al Toon	WR	22	1985	1992	1	3	8	54	107	95	4	7	0	517	6605	31	Wisconsin	College Stats
9	1975	8	193	James Scott	WR	23	1976	1983	0	0	5	35	71	58	2	-4	0	177	3202	20	Trinity Valley CC (TX)
10	2011	5	153	Jeremy Kerley	WR	22	2011	2018	0	0	2	23	99	40	18	133	0	270	3116	13	TCU	College Stats

This is the best we have to show for 50 years of drafts.  2 guys, Tony Martin and James Scott, who never even played for the Jets.  Two more guys (Santana Moss and Terance Mathis) who did most of their damage with other teams.  That leaves 6 WRs out of 50 years of drafts with more than 3,000 receiving yards for the Jets.

I can't imagine that another team in the league could have an uglier list than this.

 

I think Rob Moore is missing from that list.  He should be between Moss and Martin in yardage.  He was a supplemental pick in '90, so cost us our first and Brett Favre in '91, but he had some fairly big years.  Anyone in love with Keyshawn should appreciate him.  1990 was the same year they drafted Mathis and Dale Dawkins out of Miami.  They had taken Reggie Rembert in the 2nd.  Guy was big and fast and refused to report.  They managed to move him for Joe Kelly and some tackle who had played for Coslet with the Bengals.