Greenseed4 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player-news/9588666 ESPN's Dianna Russini reports the Redskins have granted LT Trent Williams permission to seek a trade. NFL Network's Mike Garafolo quickly confirmed the report. The Redskins made one last push to retain Williams following the firing of brusque GM Bruce Allen and the training staff, but Williams wants a new deal. The Redskins, apparently, don't want to give it. Going on 32, Williams did not play a down of football in 2019, but he likely remains one of the best blindside protectors in the league. Washington should be able to land a Day 2 pick. A first probably isn't realistic, though that is surely where talks will begin. ------------------- First Jason Peters, now Trent Williams?! Not saying we should go after either, but I sure do hope the Browns and other OT hungry teams drafting 1-10 explore these fine, fine players. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post section314 Posted March 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Greenseed4 said: https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player-news/9588666 ESPN's Dianna Russini reports the Redskins have granted LT Trent Williams permission to seek a trade. NFL Network's Mike Garafolo quickly confirmed the report. The Redskins made one last push to retain Williams following the firing of brusque GM Bruce Allen and the training staff, but Williams wants a new deal. The Redskins, apparently, don't want to give it. Going on 32, Williams did not play a down of football in 2019, but he likely remains one of the best blindside protectors in the league. Washington should be able to land a Day 2 pick. A first probably isn't realistic, though that is surely where talks will begin. ------------------- First Jason Peters, now Trent Williams?! Not saying we should go after either, but I sure do hope the Browns and other OT hungry teams drafting 1-10 explore these fine, fine players. Let somebody else pay top dollar for guys who are done for a change. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Sarge4Tide said: Injury history doesn't concern you? Age doesn't concern you? The year+ off without playing doesn't concern you? The likely price tag doesn't concern you? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 Just now, section314 said: Let somebody else pay top dollar for guys who are done for a change. Yes. And let those teams be the teams potentially drafting one of the top-4 OTs. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 If we can get two years of elite level play from this guy he’s worth a 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Why do these owners think that they have the right to continue to control broken players like this? No one will want to pay a draft pick for Trent Williams. I would offer them Avery W and Brian Winters tomorrow. We can take a chance on Trent's helmet fitting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS jets Fan Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 We still would need a long solution at LT that's our reality this temporary crap needs to stop. JD definitely knows this he's looking LT in the first round only logical choice. That's why they are trying to get a Robbie deal done. Opens the door for WR depth in late 3-6 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 It depends on the price. An incentive based contract - perhaps a shorter one than Williams would prefer, but is forced to settle for because he might be overestimating the market, might buy us a two year deal and a window for long term improvement, and both sides can get what they want out of it. We get a quality short term upgrade, he gets the opportunity after a year out of football to get one last big contract in a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 No thanks, Conklin please.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: No thanks Conklin please.. No thanks, Conklin. Please. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 If he can be had for a 4th rounder and a future conditional pick I would be down. Along with no more then two guaranteed years on a rework deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Diannia Russini breaking Redskins news? I thought they fired McLoughlan years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 These "names" are attractive but if we are going to re-vamp the OLine we need to do it with younger players. Give me draft picks and/or free agents like Conklin, Glasgow, Thuney and Vaitai. Players that can grow together over 3-4 years 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: Nice bluff Eric Woofster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoldstein54 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 i saw a video of him doing workouts this week on bleacher report. I think it was supposed to be Impressive but I was not at all. his workout techniques looked like part of the reason he's gotten hurt in the past. Just a personal opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Teams are letting vets go because this is a great class to draft their replacements. Maybe keep our picks and just draft out studs instead? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Agoldstein54 said: i saw a video of him doing workouts this week on bleacher report. I think it was supposed to be Impressive but I was not at all. his workout techniques looked like part of the reason he's gotten hurt in the past. Just a personal opinion https://t.co/FwAeT5ELMO He looked ok to me in the workout. Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) Tweeted: Washington OT Trent Williams has been given permission to seek a trade through his agent Vincent Taylor, as @diannaESPN has reported. Here is video of Williams working out this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 That’s a tough one. What’s the cost of getting him? A 4th ok, the second 3rd maybe, any higher no, what’s his contract going to be? 3 years with the 4th being an option, a reasonable contract? is he healthy?? Is he in shape??? Guys his size take time to get in shape and there’s an injury risk. There’s a lot of questions on this one. If he’s healthy and in shape and the cost/contract is reasonable he’d be a good choice. They could draft a OT at 11 and put in at RT/OG until he’s ready to take over for Williams then Williams could move to RT for a few years then retire. Having two starting caliber OT would be a nice change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoldstein54 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: https://t.co/FwAeT5ELMO He looked ok to me in the workout. Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) Tweeted: Washington OT Trent Williams has been given permission to seek a trade through his agent Vincent Taylor, as @diannaESPN has reported. Here is video of Williams working out this week. if you see the way he's squatting its not a full squat, its like he's just lifting 700 lbs to hold it on his back. Its not as effective as taking 550 llbs thru the full range of motion. Also look at his bench press. Rule of thumb is two points of contact. There can be an arch of the back but the shoulder blades and but need to be on the bench. His hole lower half is in the air, trying to leverage himself. and additionally, only going halfway thru the range of motion one again. that's just not the proper technique i would think to see from a high level athlete, its kinda basic for people who are into lifting. that's how over compensations and injuries result 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Agoldstein54 said: if you see the way he's squatting its not a full squat, its like he's just lifting 700 lbs to hold it on his back. Its not as effective as taking 550 llbs thru the full range of motion. Also look at his bench press. Rule of thumb is two points of contact. There can be an arch of the back but the shoulder blades and but need to be on the bench. His hole lower half is in the air, trying to leverage himself. and additionally, only going halfway thru the range of motion one again. that's just not the proper technique i would think to see from a high level athlete, its kinda basic for people who are into lifting. that's how over compensations and injuries result This is why I count each repetition I do as two, and how I’m able to bench 225 like 50 times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Don't you think teams are waiting for the Redskins to fold and cut him, and then sign him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 if you see the way he's squatting its not a full squat, its like he's just lifting 700 lbs to hold it on his back. Its not as effective as taking 550 llbs thru the full range of motion. Also look at his bench press. Rule of thumb is two points of contact. There can be an arch of the back but the shoulder blades and but need to be on the bench. His hole lower half is in the air, trying to leverage himself. and additionally, only going halfway thru the range of motion one again. that's just not the proper technique i would think to see from a high level athlete, its kinda basic for people who are into lifting. that's how over compensations and injuries resultI was thinking the same thing. I’m no fitness coach but that didn’t seem like the best sizzle reel to get people interested in his athleticism. Very poor technique. And he’s an injury prone guy. Someone could put 2+2 together here. I wouldn’t have let him out this out if he was my Client. But that’s just me. What do I know? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Teams are letting vets go because this is a great class to draft their replacements. Maybe keep our picks and just draft out studs instead? I like that. If the top OTs are gone, don't reach. Take Jeudy or Lamb. yeah yeah there are other good WRs in rd 2 so if we do that we end up with a rd 2 wr and a rd 2 OT that we drafted at 11. I'd rather trade down. Come on. Duh. Reaching almost always fails. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, varjet said: Don't you think teams are waiting for the Redskins to fold and cut him, and then sign him? they won't get more than a 4th for him and I doubt that. I don't trust the medicals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 still my final offer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: That’s a tough one. What’s the cost of getting him? A 4th ok, the second 3rd maybe, any higher no, what’s his contract going to be? 3 years with the 4th being an option, a reasonable contract? is he healthy?? Is he in shape??? Guys his size take time to get in shape and there’s an injury risk. There’s a lot of questions on this one. If he’s healthy and in shape and the cost/contract is reasonable he’d be a good choice. They could draft a OT at 11 and put in at RT/OG until he’s ready to take over for Williams then Williams could move to RT for a few years then retire. Having two starting caliber OT would be a nice change. He wants big bucks not reasonable bucks. For that he’d have stated with the Skins. He’s going to command to much money and has a history of injury and hasn’t played in a year. Don’t do it JD. You already blundered with Kahil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Warfish said: Injury history doesn't concern you? Age doesn't concern you? The year+ off without playing doesn't concern you? The likely price tag doesn't concern you? All of the above. Pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Considering he's coming off an injury and expects to be paid like an elite player, I'd risk only a day three pick on him. Still want us watching his market, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyJersey Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Only 1 yr left on his deal would limit what i would trade for Williams. I do think there is plenty of gas left in the tank. Cornerstone LTs usually age well. Two #1s for Tunsil last year, with 2yrs left on his rookie deal. He is younger, but not as good as Williams. Still think Redskins will get a 1 for him. Dolphins should call up and offer all three 1st round picks for #2 and Williams, on the condition they can sign a long term deal with him. If they come out of the first round w/ what they expect to be franchise QB & LT, for essentially the # 26 pick, they should be ecstatic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 JD is listening. We need a 2 year solution to 1 of our Oline spots while JD drafts a few lineman high & brings in a couple of developmental players. I know you guys are all about top free agents available but even signing two of them won't be easy based on the competition from other teams INCLUDING their own. Didn't Beachum miss time again last year? Andre Whitworth is 38 going on 39, Peters is 38, the top LTs seem to have pretty good longevity. Go hard after a nasty free agent left Guard to put next to him to make his job even easier. I'd go as high as our 2nd third rounder. This is the freaking NFL, guys get hurt. You take a chance everytime you sign a player. CJ Mosely, never hurt B4, signs a huge contract with us, BAM, misses 15 & 1/2 games! Trent Williams gets talked about in Tyron Smith, Jason Peters level. We're not signing him to a 6 year contract. JD can still draft a stud tackle at #11 & start him at RT so he's ready to switch over to LT at 24/25 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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