Jets Sign Flacco

[Jetlife33]

 

[GreenFish]

QB controversy?  I ‘kid.

I approve. We needed a veteran backup who can play on short notice. 

[munchmemory]

[Jets0712]

In case Darnold comes down with cocksocky this is a good move. Bet qb that can keep us afloat for a few games. I like it


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[jetstream23]

9 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

 

 

Flacco knows his role here.  He's not here to compete for a starting job.  And, I think he'll be a solid veteran voice for both Sam Darnold and a developing James Morgan (rookie).  We probably can't count on Flacco to win a game with his arm should he need to step in for Darnold at some point, but I'd count on him to not lose one with stupid mistakes.

The best thing that might come from this signing is having James Morgan learn from Flacco and be a competent QB2 the following year.

To me, all of the above is worth $4.5M for one season.

Darnold > Flacco > Morgan should be the QB Depth Chart.

[nycdan]

Can he play Safety?  Asking for a friend...

[JoJoTownsell1]

Given the possible quarantine of players during a season it isn't a terrible idea to have a vet backup at QB. 

Flacco is not good anymore (don't think he was any good) but as a backup, you aren't going to get much better. He can step in for 3/4 games and not completely kill you which is just about all you can ever ask from your backup QB. 

[choon328]

24 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said:

When the roster has crater like holes all over it, picking a longshot QB to develop could have waited and the 4th round pick would have been better utilized by taking a player at a position of need that might actually get on the field and contribute in 2020.

4th round picks rarely become starters.  Something like 13% of the time.  People are making too big of a deal over it. And you can't keep paying veteran QB's to back up Darnold when he gets his $30 million extension. 

[PS17]

Has anyone else had the career trajectory of Flacco? First round pick, moderately skilled, won consistently with a very good team around him, eventually a Super Bowl. And then just average at best and in rapid decline after the first contract. 

[munchmemory]

1 minute ago, PS17 said:

Has anyone else had the career trajectory of Flacco? First round pick, moderately skilled, won consistently with a very good team around him, eventually a Super Bowl. And then just average at best and in rapid decline after the first contract. 

Flacco really went into the tank (coasted, perhaps?) after his big payday after the SB win.

[Butterfield]

Very good move, and one everyone should have seen coming.

[TNJet]

33 minutes ago, Prez33 said:

Me, too. This doesn’t threaten Darnold in any way unless something crazy happens. Injury, bad play, a second bout of mono. 
 

Flacco is QB2. And the Jets are better for it. Just like the Frank Gore signing. A solid depth addition. 

Thanks to Douglas (and Gase) we are starting to have an nfl caliber roster again. Problem is, will Gase turn it loose on offense and score points? Gase is the Jets weakest link now, not any of the players.

[Sonny Werblin]

14 minutes ago, TNJet said:

Yes! No way we'll need a backup next year after Flacco retires. Lol stupid draft pick Morgan Boooo!

Not a big fan of the Morgan pick. What's done is done. I'm a little curious about the coincidence that Morgan has a lot of the same attributes as Flacco. It's like they have a "type" for back up QB. 

[KRL]

Nothing not to like about the move.  Flacco has a ton of
experience, won a SB and played in a lot of playoff games.
He'll be a good mentor to Darnold and a QB who can actually
win a game if called on.  Douglas has done a good job on
"paper" of spreading his resources around the whole team to
make it better

[Jetlife33]

McGovern-Flacco connection is something else to note. Flacco could maybe give a few tips to Darnold on his experience playing with our new C. 

[Doggin94it]

37 minutes ago, jetlaw said:

Very smart signing. Douglas has really impressed me. If Clooney’s price drops I’d jump and finish off a great off season.


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I just don't see him fitting on this team. He's been Up In the Air too long, and thinks he's Batman when he's not. Paying him significant money would just be opening the casino vault to a team of bank robbers, and put the Jets in the financial ER. No thanks. 

[choon328]

1 minute ago, Jetlife33 said:

McGovern-Flacco connection is something else to note. Flacco could maybe give a few tips to Darnold on his experience playing with our new C. 

Yeah like how much pressure to put on his balls

[GreenFish]

Joe Douglas did this to distract from the Jamal debate. Don’t take the bate. Head back to the Jamal thread.

[Charlie Brown]

32 minutes ago, choon328 said:

4th round picks rarely become starters.  Something like 13% of the time.  People are making too big of a deal over it. And you can't keep paying veteran QB's to back up Darnold when he gets his $30 million extension. 

Thank you...

So many out here say things like... "Yea well JD should have drafted Jim Brown 2.0 who was just sitting there for us to take!"

I keep asking, who was the superstar that JD passed over in the 4th round, cause you are not running schemes or anything so how do you know who that "guy" is or was?

They don't want to build a REAL team when you can have FF picks and just sit back and win!

Slight tangent........................... this is the real difference  between JD who knows the NYJ are not winning it all this year because of their ongoing lack of talent and say an Idzik who thought that the Jets had "more than enough" talent to win when they stunk!

JD as one poster said in this thread is playing chess and is planting long term seeds for the Jets success and not listening to the decades old band aid approach of attempting to fill immediate holes and the difference is night and day for those willing to pay attention!

[bealeb319]

1.5 mill to warm the bench not a bad deal

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[BurnleyJet]

1 hour ago, ChuckkieB said:

Not in the 4th round with legit holes all over the roster.

Since 4th rounders pan out all the time..

I have no problem with it, it’s spending a 2 on the likes of Hack that’s a problem.

Since JD ran a master class on trading back I will take his draft on this occasion.

[Jetlife33]

7 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Yeah like how much pressure to put on his balls

Between spencer long and Ryan Kalil maybe that’s what the problem was!

[Gastineau Lives]

50 minutes ago, jetlaw said:

Very smart signing. Douglas has really impressed me. If Clooney’s price drops I’d jump and finish off a great off season.


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I'd pay at least six million just to have his jawline.

[ECURB]

This would have been huge last year, they would have made the playoffs.

[Jetlife33]

 

[Dcat]

Let's just hope he never has to take a snap other than garbage time.

[Gastineau Lives]

8 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Joe Douglas did this to distract from the Jamal debate. Don’t take the bate. Head back to the Jamal thread.

 

There will be punch and cookies and a reading of Song of Myself in the Jamal Thread. 

[Warfish]

I'm indifferent honestly. 

I absolutely loathe the endless recycling of worn out defunct old long-past-prime veteran QB's and the risk aversion of NFL Coaches and GM's to actually draft, develop and have faith in young QB's. 

Do I think Joe Flacco circa 2020 is particularly reliable or good?  Nope.  He's another 1-3 record type fill in, same as guys like McCown and Fitz and all the endless assortment of recycled old guys we've had before.  

On the other side, he's cheap, and if we had available cap space, nothing is really lost except opportunity for younger guys. 

If Darnold misses time for a third year in a row, I guess we're watching the Flacco show.  Doesn't excite me.  Doesn't bother me really either.  Anyway it's moot, folks say there is no way Darnold will miss time again, so moot is moot.

Still more interested to see Morgan play in preseason than Flacco.

[mrcoops]

Weird that folks are still so critical of drafting a developmental QB with a 4th round pick. Smart teams do stuff like that all the time. We also drafted a 3rd string RB and a developmental OL in that same round, but no-one seems to be questioning that.

Flacco is here for 1 year - to backup Darnold and to help groom Morgan as next year's #2.

I like the Flacco signing - he's a seasoned vet with big-game experience, and he came very cheap.

Jets might have to carry Fales early in the season though, if Flacco isn't going to be healthy to start the year - unless they are comfortable with Morgan as the #2 in the early going.

[The Crusher]

Yes!!!!!!!   Straight up stoked. 

[Jetlife33]

 

[fltflo]

Just a side note on Morgan, I’m a Canes fan and I watch that kid take apart the Hurricanes defense and made them look like a joke.
Just so you know Morgan could have a huge upside, can’t say for sure, the Pros are a huge step up. Yet, I can tell you he has a great arm and from what I saw, very smart with the ball.
So that was no wasted 4 round pick, he could be a hell of a backup in a year or two. He could even turn out to be a great trade candidate down the road and a starter sometime in the future.
So not a wasted pick but a very smart gamble on Douglas part.


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[Thai Jet]

1 hour ago, Prez33 said:

Me, too. This doesn’t threaten Darnold in any way unless something crazy happens. Injury, bad play, a second bout of mono. 
 

Flacco is QB2. And the Jets are better for it. Just like the Frank Gore signing. A solid depth addition. 

Totally agree.. This gives us a legit chance to win  if Sam is out for some games. And we have Morgan as #3

[munchmemory]

5 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Yes!!!!!!!   Straight up stoked. 

I definitely remember you wanting us to draft Flacco way back when.  Think you kept saying, "I want the Italian quarterback!".

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, ChuckkieB said:

If it was JD's intention all along to sign a vet backup QB, can we now all agree that James Morgan in the 4th round was a silly pick?

Absolutely not in agreement there.  I wouldn't have signed a vet QB, but it doesn't negate the upside that drafting a QB can have.  At any given time there's only about 12 or so guys on the planet that can play the QB position at a high level.  Supply and demand suggests it can be worth a swing in the mid rounds from time to time in the hopes that you find someone like Kirk Cousins.  

If Morgan shows anything at all, he could easily get flipped a few years from now for as much as a 1st rounder.  

Plus rumor has it the Patriots were all set to take Morgan in the 5th round.  If true that makes the pick even better.  Not to mention, we still ended up grabbing a talented player in Bryce Hall in the 5th.  That was a guy a lot of people here wanted in the 4th round anyways.