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1 minute ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Looking forward to evaluating Gase's Offense with a veteran QB at the helm. This is a good opportunity for a controlled study. Frankly, I'd like to see Flacco 2 weeks in a row so there is a larger sample size to assist in the evaluation.

 

 

 

My guess is that we will. 

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1 hour ago, RSJ said:

When Flacco plays well in a Jets win its going to get really fun around here.


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I hope so. I have always liked Flacco.  Throws a great long ball.  Curious to see if the offense starts to improve with him in there.  I am betting it will, which doesn't look good for Sam.

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3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I'm surprised by the number of people who think that Flacco is going to play well.

He hasn't had a passer rating above 85 since 2014... And frankly, even if he stepped in and played at that level on this current team, I'm not sure that's actually good enough to beat anyone.

I think it goes to show you that, despite all of the negativity and hopelessness that we all feel, most of us still dream about the Jets playing well and wining a game football game. We all still secretly have some hope. 

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1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said:

I've seen worse. 

No argument there. I'm just not sure why this means Flacco is going to suddenly play really well when he hasn't been anywhere near good in years. 

I guess it would be Jetsy for Flacco to come in and give us a few vintage performances, screw up our draft position, give us some false hope, only to suck for the last 5 weeks of the season. 

You know what? I think I see it now. You are right, Flacco is going to play well this week. 

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2 hours ago, varjet said:

Much of the success in the NFL is due to coaching preparation.

The Cardinals have been preparing for a Darnold Jets for weeks.  Flacco will confuse and short-circuit them, particularly since they are different style QBs.  

So in typical Jetsy fashion, the Jets will roll out the 13 year veteran QB and actually win.  Most teams are smart enough to play the young QBs they have, figuring they are either building a starting or backup QB for the future, or losing and improving the draft pick.  But no.  Not the Jets.  We bring out veteran QBs that are good enough to beat weaker teams.

The Cardinals are actually not a weaker team.  But I can see the element of surprise working in the Jets' favor.  That and increasing desperation by players and coaches. 

It is the Jets Way.  

nice turn of a phrase.  :)   another way of saying it is:  because Jets

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49 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I'm surprised by the number of people who think that Flacco is going to play well.

He hasn't had a passer rating above 85 since 2014... And frankly, even if he stepped in and played at that level on this current team, I'm not sure that's actually good enough to beat anyone.

He's going to play well... compared to Darnold. 

 

Joe Flacco in Denver 2019

8 games started, 2 wins, 6 losses, 65.3% comp, 7 yards per attempt, 27% pressured rate 

Sam Darnold in New York 2020

4 games started 0 wins 4 losses 59.4% comp, 5.7 yards per attempt, 25.3% pressured rate 

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42 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

No argument there. I'm just not sure why this means Flacco is going to suddenly play really well when he hasn't been anywhere near good in years. 

I guess it would be Jetsy for Flacco to come in and give us a few vintage performances, screw up our draft position, give us some false hope, only to suck for the last 5 weeks of the season. 

You know what? I think I see it now. You are right, Flacco is going to play well this week. 

False hope?

If Flacco comes in and lights it up for a few games, how does that give us any hope? The dude is ******* 35 years old! He ain't our future, even if he were somehow still good. All it will do is screw us out of drafting our potential future in Lawrence.

Nothing good comes out of Flacco playing well.

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Just now, Spoot-Face said:

False hope?

If Flacco comes in and lights it up for a few games, how does that give us any hope? The dude is ******* 35 years old! He ain't our future, even if he were somehow still good. All it will do is screw us out of drafting our potential future in Lawrence.

Nothing good comes out of Flacco playing well.

Oh, I agree with you, but if Flacco ever managed to win the next two games, you'd start seeing wildcard threads on here. 

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13 minutes ago, bitonti said:

He's going to play well... compared to Darnold. 

 

Joe Flacco in Denver 2019

8 games started, 2 wins, 6 losses, 65.3% comp, 7 yards per attempt, 27% pressured rate 

Sam Darnold in New York 2020

4 games started 0 wins 4 losses 59.4% comp, 5.7 yards per attempt, 25.3% pressured rate 

Well if we're looking at last years stats Darnold in 2019 was:

13 games started 7 wins 6 losses, 61.9% comp, 6.9 yards per attempt, 39.6% pressured rate

I see no reason to think Flacco will replicate his 2019 stats in this offense.

 

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4 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

13 games started 7 wins 6 losses, 61.9% comp, 6.9 yards per attempt, 39.6% pressured rate

 

That was all before Darnold got the yips. 

and Flacco still had higher percentages etc.

hey maybe there's some great QB lurking inside 14 waiting to burst out 

but right now he needs a time out and a change of diaper 

 

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The cycle has a chance of repeating.

The two previous times when Darnold has been out, many people have suspected that the veteran QB sent in to alleviate will play better than him and it will expose that he sucks. This idea has been stomped on twice so far as bringing in the backup QB has only ever shown how incompetent we really are.

I wouldn't bank on him balling out.

 

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34 minutes ago, bitonti said:

That was all before Darnold got the yips. 

and Flacco still had higher percentages etc.

hey maybe there's some great QB lurking inside 14 waiting to burst out 

but right now he needs a time out and a change of diaper 

 

I'm not even stating this as an endorsement of Darnold as much as "I see zero reason why in 2020 Adam Gase's Jets offense Joe Flacco will be any good."

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Joe Flacco will start for Jets as Sam Darnold nurses injury

October 7, 2020 | 12:26pm | Updated 

 
 

The 0-4 Jets will be without starting quarterback Sam Darnold on Sunday when they face the Cardinals at MetLife Stadium.

Coach Adam Gase announced Wednesday that backup Joe Flacco will start. Darnold suffered an AC joint sprain in his right (throwing) shoulder in the loss to the Broncos last Thursday. Darnold returned to the game after suffering the injury, but now is in too much pain to practice or play this week.

“He’s really going to be week-to-week right now,” Gase said. “That’s what we were told by the doctors. Let’s just kind of see how he feels after this week of rest. That’s where we’re at right now with him.”

Gase said the Jets did not make a mistake by letting Darnold return to the game against the Broncos.

“At that time, the guys thought that was the right thing to do. He wanted to go back in,” Gase said. “They knew what it was. Obviously, after the game, the next day he was a lot more sore than he was in real time. They weren’t worried about further damage.”

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Gase would not reveal what degree the sprain is.

“I know he’s in a lot of pain. That’s what it is,” Gase said. “He can raise his arm to a certain degree. To go out and practice, it would be very difficult for him right now.”

This is the third time Darnold will miss time with an injury or illness in his career. He missed three games as a rookie with a foot sprain and three games last year when he had mononucleosis. The Jets are 0-6 without Darnold.

 

“I’m looking at it right now as hopefully he gets better quickly and he doesn’t miss too much time,” Gase said. “I think it’s a different situation than last year for sure where he was out of the building, he couldn’t be around anybody for I think it was 10 days or something like that. He’s in the meetings today. He’s going to be able to go to practice and be locked in that way.”

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Jets are giving up over 30 points a game making this an easy game for Murray to run and pass against.  That means Flacco and the rest of the world beaters need to put up around 40 points.  Unless we sign up some play makers between now and Saturday night, this won't be happening.

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Joe Flacco Could Ruin Everything For the New York Jets

By Liam McKeone | Oct 07 2020

Joe Flacco has entered the ring. That's right, everybody. The Super Bowl champ has reclaimed a starting quarterback position in the National Football League. It is not because he outperformed his competition, however. New York Jets QB Sam Darnold is out this week after getting hurt last Thursday against the Denver Broncos, and Flacco is the next man up.

Initially, Jets fans might be excited about this news, if only because it means Darnold isn't going out there hobbled -- like he and 2020 first-rounder Mekhi Becton did on Thursday. But this is actually very bad. It's good the Jets aren't forcing Darnold to play, but it's bad Flacco is taking his spot.

Why? Because Flacco might be just good enough to ruin all the silver linings of an awful season like the one the Jets are currently going through.

The last time we saw Flacco, he was in Denver. He was not good. He went 2-6 in eight games as the starter. He completed 65 percent of his passes for 1,822 yards, six touchdowns, and five interceptions. That statline is still better than what Darnold has been doing as a part of this awful Jets squad. Darnold is currently averaging 198 yards and one interception per game. Flacco averaged 227 yards per game in his last starting stint. He did not throw a touchdown in several games, but he also did not throw an interception in several games.

Flacco is obviously not better than Darnold based off that, but there is a possibility that Flacco can play at a competent level. That's bad news because the Jets are a terrible football team. Anything Flacco can do out there will only mask the deep-seated issues on this team, not fix them.

What will help fix those issues? Getting rid of Adam Gase and nabbing an elite talent of some type in the 2021 draft. Neither of those things will happen if the Jets start to win games. Flacco could play just well enough to make that happen. Darnold's injury doesn't seem serious and he could be good to go next week. But if he's not, and Flacco gets the Jets a win or two, what then? Gase doesn't get canned because apparently any sign of vague competency is enough to keep him employed. The Jets drop a few spots in the draft order, potentially the difference between a long-term building block and a bust.

I'm not saying this will happen. I don't even think it's likely. But what if Flacco comes in, throws for 250 yards and a pair of touchdowns with a pick, the Jets go from No. 3 to No. 7 in the draft order, and Gase gets one more year? That's the absolute worst-case scenario. These are the kinds of things that happen to the New York Jets.

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/joe-flacco-new-york-jets-adam-gase-sam-darnold-01em1y0zj73c

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