Zach Wilson may give Jets hope after Trevor Lawrence downer

[BurnleyJet]

22 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said:

Yup and in that time they reworked his mechanics from college. I know it's difficult as a Jets fan to understand, but they didn't plan on him going in week one and getting killed. 

They also had Brett Favre, he was never starting, he was to good value to pass up for them late in round 1. I remember that draft year, big debate who sound go first Roger or Alex Smith the 49ers took Smith. 
That a major Jet like fook up. Then Rogers  fell right to the end of the first. In fact it says he as “terrific fundamentals and mechanics.”
 

Aaron Rodgers Scouting Report

A simple google revealed this gem from Scouts.com. Although, I'd like to see a comparison of the 49ers report for Rodgers vs. Smith.

(QB) Aaron Rodgers - CALIFORNIA (6'2", 223, 4.71) Strengths: He has outstanding arm strength. Has one of the strongest arms in this year's quarterback class. Shows the ability to make all the necessary throws in the NFL. Has great zip on his deep out route and shows the ability to fit the ball into tight spots. He has terrific fundamentals and mechanics. Also has very good touch and timing. Shows the consistent ability to lay the ball in between the linebackers and safeties in coverage. Impressive deep accuracy. Will also show the ability to take some velocity off of his underneath throws. He is poised in the pocket and isn't afraid to wait until the last possible second to deliver the ball while taking a blow. He gets set quickly and does a fine job of seeing the entire field. His ability to make progression reads and look off receivers has improved greatly to the point where he is among the elite in this class in those facets. He has terrific awareness in the pocket. Lacks prototypical quarterback size. He shows adequate quickness in the pocket and the ability to buy many second chances with his awareness and feet. Is a tough quarterback with good leadership skills and no character concerns. Coaches speak very highly of him in terms of his character and work ethic.

[doitny]

20 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said:

Yup and in that time they reworked his mechanics from college. I know it's difficult as a Jets fan to understand, but they didn't plan on him going in week one and getting killed. 

again, because of Favre. if they had McCown he would have started from day one.

nobody drafts a QB 1-5 or even in the first rd to sit on the bench 3 years. you can get those guys in later rds. 

only HOF QBs make first rd draft picks sit on the bench for years..... or even one year

[SayNoToDMC]

18 minutes ago, doitny said:

again, because of Favre. if they had McCown he would have started from day one.

nobody drafts a QB 1-5 or even in the first rd to sit on the bench 3 years. you can get those guys in later rds. 

only HOF QBs make first rd draft picks sit on the bench for years..... or even one year

Yes, a team with a plan for the future took the time to groom a QB and rework mechanics with a HOF guy in place. We just plug people into sh*t and wonder why it smells bad. 

[doitny]

10 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said:

Yes, a team with a plan for the future took the time to groom a QB and rework mechanics with a HOF guy in place. We just plug people into sh*t and wonder why it smells bad. 

you just dont get it.. ok fine lets draft a QB at 2 and let him sit for 3 years ....

BTW that team with a plan after trading for Favre called him in to replace Majkoski in game 2 and never looked back.

thats the only example you got

Tua

Herbert

Murray

Mayfield

Allen

Jackson

all those QBs according to you should still be sitting cause its not 3 years yet. 

[Butterfield]

No interest until the 2nd round.  

[choon328]

Every GM wants their OWN QB. People need to stop discounting the fact that Darnold was not a JD pick and he has no loyalty to him at all. JD has 4 years left on his contract. Do you think he wants to spend the next two years,  one at $25 million, hoping Darnold becomes a QB he has shown he can't be? Or do you think he wants his own QB and own 4 year window with a cheap young QB that he could build around? If they like Fields or Wilson as a potential franchise guy they will take one of them at 2 and trade Darnold without a second thought. This has been and always will be about who they bring in for HC. It's still an attractive spot even without Lawrence bc of the draft picks, the cap money available and Becton and Mims.

[choon328]

5 minutes ago, doitny said:

you just dont get it.. ok fine lets draft a QB at 2 and let him sit for 3 years ....

BTW that team with a plan after trading for Favre called him in to replace Majkoski in game 2 and never looked back.

thats the only example you got

Tua

Herbert

Murray

Mayfield

Allen

Jackson

all those QBs according to you should still be sitting cause its not 3 years yet. 

The days of QBs sitting and watching are over. Mostly bc nfl offenses have finally, except the Jets, learned to build an offense around the young QB's skill set and put him in a position to succeed. That's the reason young QB's are doing exceptionally well early on. 

[jgb]

So this is who our rebound crush is going to be

[Marshmello]

This was a pretty nice pass. 

 

[KRL]

People are clowning themselves by mocking Central Florida.  They've
developed into a strong "mid-level" program, their record over the
past four years is 41-7:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/central-florida/index.html

[JustInFudge]

Remember that Riley Ferguson game vs. UCF that everyone was drooling over? 

[usanyj]

1 hour ago, KRL said:

People are clowning themselves by mocking Central Florida.  They've
developed into a strong "mid-level" program, their record over the
past four years is 41-7:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/central-florida/index.html

It’s not that valid of an argument.... most programs play bad programs, minus some of the conference rivalry games. 
 

clemson played the citadel, we are still allowed to watch the tape of Lawrence against them.

Ohio state played Rutgers, we can still watch tape on fields that game. 
 

you watch the accuracy and the footwork and all the other things. 

[JustInFudge]

1 hour ago, KRL said:

People are clowning themselves by mocking Central Florida.  They've
developed into a strong "mid-level" program, their record over the
past four years is 41-7:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/central-florida/index.html

They even have the National Championship banner to prove it!

 

[Jetsbb]

3 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

My buddy who watches college said Trevor is system qb and the jets system might not really be the best for him. He then said this dude is the guy. Just goes to show you missing on trevor is the the worst thing. This dude might be a stud

The funny thing is this might be true and yet missing on Lawrence is still the worst thing that could have happened to them. Douglas would have drafted Lawrence at #1 but will never in a million years draft Zach Wilson. They are going to trade down and kick the can down the road on a QB. It is in Douglas DNA to do this.

[Jetster]

I like to watch a QB & imagine him in the roll of the guy who's right now considered the best QB in the draft. 

Nothing that Lawrence did vs Notre Dame was anything that Zack Wilson couldn't have done in the same offense. 

Thats why it's so hard to evaluate QBs in college. Outside of two throws, 1 back shoulder & another long 35 out on a rope, everything else Trevor did last Saturday were dump offs, short slants & planned runs.

Watching Fields hold onto the ball & Wilson quick release was like Night & day! I'm on the keep drafting them to you find one train. We didn't take Watson because that idiot drafted Hackenberg. If JD can find a trade partner & still draft Wilson sign me up. 

[Bugg]

3 hours ago, doitny said:

you just dont get it.. ok fine lets draft a QB at 2 and let him sit for 3 years ....

BTW that team with a plan after trading for Favre called him in to replace Majkoski in game 2 and never looked back.

thats the only example you got

Tua

Herbert

Murray

Mayfield

Allen

Jackson

all those QBs according to you should still be sitting cause its not 3 years yet. 

With a salary cap, sitting a young QB for 3 years is not happening. You have to find out quickly if the guy can play, because if wait that long, the decision about whether to pick him up at the end of his rookie contract is going to be the most important decision a GM and ownership make. You want them to make that decision on practices and a few preseason games; that's insane. We are in that decision right now. If nothing else with Darnold, we have 3 years of data. 

[QB1]

please google his face- hard pass

not to mention he has torn labrum on BOTH shoulders 

[oatmeal]

No ty to him and his 2 bad shoulders and No to a RIGHT TACKLE AT 2 when the interior of our line is the problem!!

 

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[Beerfish]

6 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

They played central Florida.....

Man you guys are easy..

Clemson played V tech (4-6), Georgia tech 3-7, Syracuse 1-5

 

[DeerPark]

6 minutes ago, Jetster said:

I like to watch a QB & imagine him in the roll of the guy who's right now considered the best QB in the draft. 

Nothing that Lawrence did vs Notre Dame was anything that Zack Wilson couldn't have done in the same offense. 

Thats why it's so hard to evaluate QBs in college. Outside of two throws, 1 back shoulder & another long 35 out on a rope, everything else Trevor did last Saturday were dump offs, short slants & planned runs.

Watching Fields hold onto the ball & Wilson quick release was like Night & day! I'm on the keep drafting them to you find one train. We didn't take Watson because that idiot drafted Hackenberg. If JD can find a trade partner & still draft Wilson sign me up. 

JD will have to earn his money this year since we do not have the number 1 pick.  looking at Wilson's highlights, receivers are not wide open which is a plus compared to OSU, Clemson, Alabama or any of the other big programs.  The talent that surrounds Wilson is night and day compared to those big programs.  Yes the competition is less but he has elevated the players around him.  Let's see how he performs/tests at the combine.  is his arm legit? is he really 6'3"?  if he checks all those boxes then it's a no brainer.  

[QB1]

4 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

They also had Brett Favre, he was never starting, he was to good value to pass up for them late in round 1. I remember that draft year, big debate who sound go first Roger or Alex Smith the 49ers took Smith. 
That a major Jet like fook up. Then Rogers  fell right to the end of the first. In fact it says he as “terrific fundamentals and mechanics.”
 

Aaron Rodgers Scouting Report

A simple google revealed this gem from Scouts.com. Although, I'd like to see a comparison of the 49ers report for Rodgers vs. Smith.

(QB) Aaron Rodgers - CALIFORNIA (6'2", 223, 4.71) Strengths: He has outstanding arm strength. Has one of the strongest arms in this year's quarterback class. Shows the ability to make all the necessary throws in the NFL. Has great zip on his deep out route and shows the ability to fit the ball into tight spots. He has terrific fundamentals and mechanics. Also has very good touch and timing. Shows the consistent ability to lay the ball in between the linebackers and safeties in coverage. Impressive deep accuracy. Will also show the ability to take some velocity off of his underneath throws. He is poised in the pocket and isn't afraid to wait until the last possible second to deliver the ball while taking a blow. He gets set quickly and does a fine job of seeing the entire field. His ability to make progression reads and look off receivers has improved greatly to the point where he is among the elite in this class in those facets. He has terrific awareness in the pocket. Lacks prototypical quarterback size. He shows adequate quickness in the pocket and the ability to buy many second chances with his awareness and feet. Is a tough quarterback with good leadership skills and no character concerns. Coaches speak very highly of him in terms of his character and work ethic.

Go on YouTube and watch Rodgers at cal and you will see he was a completely different player. 

[QB1]

11 minutes ago, DeerPark said:

JD will have to earn his money this year since we do not have the number 1 pick.  looking at Wilson's highlights, receivers are not wide open which is a plus compared to OSU, Clemson, Alabama or any of the other big programs.  The talent that surrounds Wilson is night and day compared to those big programs.  Yes the competition is less but he has elevated the players around him.  Let's see how he performs/tests at the combine.  is his arm legit? is he really 6'3"?  if he checks all those boxes then it's a no brainer.  

It’s not his height it’s his frame. Girl shoulders and two torn labrums. Guy is lightning in a bottle.

[Morrissey]

6 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

They played central Florida.....

Man you guys are easy..

His opponent and team not relevant. Anyone who watches him  can see the talent and potential. Very few QB have his skill set.

[Morrissey]

People who penalize players for the team they play on or their level of competition just don't get it....

How many elite QB's in the NFL has SEC even produced? Big 12 has a better track record right now and they literally play zero defense.

 

[Bugg]

5 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Like your in the club, it’s late, all the Hot chicks are taken, your desperate. You convince yourself that the fat chick standing by the back wall, isn’t so bad really, and after a few more Jacks she’s starting to look good.

That’s Zach Wilson.

It’s 1981 Giants have just taken Lawrence Taylor, your picking next.. 

We've managed to drink a Mormon guy pretty, intriguing, go on....

[68JET11]

5 hours ago, Wonderboy said:

Still that was freaking impressive. He had nearly 300 yards in the first half alone. They definitely held back in 2nd half with the game in hand.  I recall Melvin Gordon going off in college vs. lesser comp and people having similar doubts. 

Go watch the Coastal Carolina game... He couldn't even beat Coastal Carolina....  nough said.

[Scoop24]

7 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

They played central Florida.....

Man you guys are easy..

Says the guy thank thinks sam played great game last week .

[riggy001]

4 more months of this is going to be painful, but need something to get through winter , right? During the tournament, many more qbs will be highlighted, and get the chance to impress further. Then, during combine, virtual or real, we will get to hear how small someones hands are, etc. Douglaus has some great options , lets get a real coach, and go from there, i will declare myself undecided, for now.

[LockeJET]

5 hours ago, pdxgreen said:

Gorgeous! Better looking than Sunshine. I'm on board!!

[Patriot Killa]

43 minutes ago, QB1 said:

please google his face- hard pass

some of you are weird...

[QB1]

10 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

some of you are weird...

Football is entertainment. I don’t want my QB to be a she face maga douche

[Morrissey]

7 minutes ago, QB1 said:

Football is entertainment. I don’t want my QB to be a she face maga douche

Tom Brady is a she face maga douche.

[KRL]

39 minutes ago, Morrissey said:

His opponent and team not relevant. Anyone who watches him  can see the talent and potential. Very few QB have his skill set.

Someone who actually gets it!!!  A real scout will evaluate the player
and his traits not all the "other stuff"

[QB1]

4 minutes ago, Morrissey said:

Tom Brady is a she face maga douche.

Yup and I would never have him as my QB

[heymangold]

Recency bias.  Watch if Fields goes nuts against Clemson how many people here and in the media are going to bone up.