Warfish Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Hot garbage In fairness, we don't really know that either. That's the thing, no one really knows WHAT Bienemy is or isn't. He's not in charge of anything or responsible for anything personally, which makes it impossible to tell what he IS to be evaluated on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 51 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: All of you people saying Bieniemy just gets Raid coffee are so wrong. He also gets him donuts. Huge, if true! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, Warfish said: In fairness, we don't really know that either. That's the thing, no one really knows WHAT Bienemy is or isn't. He's not in charge of anything or responsible for anything personally, which makes it impossible to tell what he IS to be evaluated on. I just wonder if Bienemy is more responsible for Pat Mahomes than Gase is for Peyton Manning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Warfish said: I've repeatedly asked what Bieniemy is actually responsible for, since he doesn't call the plays and doesn't design the Offense, and I've yet to get a response LOL. Bienemys last 10 Interviews: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Why is he just a coffee getter? Mat Nagy had the same position with the Chiefs, is he so much better than Bienemy? A fair knock on him be that Nagy hasn't been that great offensively since he has been the HC of the Bears but denigrating Bienemy doesn't make sense to me. Listening to Rich Cimini's podcast and former NY Jet Mike DeVito (who is very in tune with the NFL) is all on board for Bienemy. Says his time in KC was an eye opener of how great he was as a coach and how the players responded to him. Character, knowledgeable, respects his players, players love him, experience, hard working are all words and phrases that he used to describe Bienemy. Says he would jokingly tell Bienemy to coach the DLine because he loved him so much. He also added that at this point of his coaching career, other quality coaches would be knocking down the door to be on his staff. It made me consider this candidate much more, 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: I’ve repeatedly asked the question what makes Bieniemy less qualified then both Nagy or Pedersen when they were hired as HCs and I’ve yet to get a response LOL Well this is what Reid and Mahomes say about Bieniemy..... “I’d say hire him, like right now,” Reid said. “That’s what I’d tell you. I don’t want to lose him, but if you’re asking me if he’s ready to be a head coach? Yeah, he’s ready. He was ready last year. Nobody is in more control than what he is within this game. He is a leader of men. He knows football, but he knows the offense like the back of his hand. He is in the quarterback room every day. I think if you talked to Patrick, I think Patrick would tell you how much of an influence he has had on him.” With Mahomes taking the podium just after Reid, reporters did ask Mahomes about Bieniemy and his influence. “I think the details and the way he is able to control the room to get the best out of every single player is a big thing,” Mahomes said. “He holds you to a high standard and he holds you to the standard that you need to be perfect with every single rep you get in practice. I think those details and that standard he holds everybody to elevates everyone’s game.” Far from a coffee cup holder! So is Bieneny the perfect candidate? IMO No! But is also simply disingenuous to imply that Bieniemy is essentially UNQUAILIFED and just carrying coffee. Don't like him fine, I personally believe that there are better candidates but lets be fair.... https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/05/kansas-city-chiefs-head-coach-andy-reid-recommends-offensive-coordinator-eric-bieniemy-for-head-coaching-job/ 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Not a fan of the OC/DC of a team when the HC is really the architect of that department. It leaves doubt that the coordinator is just the coffee guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: And the guy who pumps @SAR I's gas is invaluable to driving him around. What, do you expect them to come out and say, "no, he really doesn't do anything, he's just there"? Well in that sense you are right to some degree but Reid said the same thing about these former assistants who worked under him. Indeed for example Doug Pederson, John Harbaugh, Ron Rivera and Sean McDermott all worked under Andy Reid.... just to name a few. And as far as that goes those are some pretty good HCs, and Bienemy hopefully will fall in that line and Reid seems to feel he is inline to be just as good as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Blackout said: We'll go on an unparalleled run of championships If the Jets win one championship that is unparalleled for any Jets fan that isn't 80 years old. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Losmeister said: why would we bash Bienemy? dont get it. i mean, its not like i am stumping for him... idk... seems like an acceptable OC dude The typical reasons. They want another Eric Mangini. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Clue Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 I will never understand why people want Bienemy as a coach. First of all we all know it’s Ried who does the play calling and he’s been interviewed multiple times over the last couple seasons, so him not being hired should speak a lot (not saying he’s a bad guy) just don’t think he will be a good head coach. The only coach I’m interested in from the Chiefs is their QB coach Mike Kafka and I’d be all in for Jets to hire him as our next OC or something like that. Would be great to get someone like him to coach the next QB we draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 just say no to bienemy. no experience in defense and has glommed off of andy reid's success. fields maybe. certainly looked good against clemson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I could see Bienemy not getting hired at all. I don’t know what it is about him, but he’s gone through a few hiring cycles and never got a job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Brace for it folks, Bieniemy is the odds on favorite and the prototypical Woody hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, jgb said: Brace for it folks, Bieniemy is the odds on favorite and the prototypical Woody hire. How so? He's actually had success. But I guess you mean he's never been a head coach before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, phill1c said: How so? He's actually had success. But I guess you mean he's never been a head coach before? Never HC. Passed over several times. Will be so happy to finally get his shot will accept below-average salary. And I don’t want to get political but Woody likes to curry favor with the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Ew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet Life said: Not a fan of the OC/DC of a team when the HC is really the architect of that department. It leaves doubt that the coordinator is just the coffee guy Agree give me the OC who has over achieved without a HOF quality QB. That’s the dude I want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, jgb said: Never HC. Passed over several times. Will be so happy to finally get his shot will accept below-average salary. And I don’t want to get political but Woody likes to curry favor with the league. I think it's more that when you don't have stability in the organization (or people that the league respects) your pool of good candidates gets small real quick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Well this is what Reid and Mahomes say about Bieniemy..... “I’d say hire him, like right now,” Reid said. “That’s what I’d tell you. I don’t want to lose him, but if you’re asking me if he’s ready to be a head coach? Yeah, he’s ready. He was ready last year. Nobody is in more control than what he is within this game. He is a leader of men. He knows football, but he knows the offense like the back of his hand. He is in the quarterback room every day. I think if you talked to Patrick, I think Patrick would tell you how much of an influence he has had on him.” With Mahomes taking the podium just after Reid, reporters did ask Mahomes about Bieniemy and his influence. “I think the details and the way he is able to control the room to get the best out of every single player is a big thing,” Mahomes said. “He holds you to a high standard and he holds you to the standard that you need to be perfect with every single rep you get in practice. I think those details and that standard he holds everybody to elevates everyone’s game.” Far from a coffee cup holder! So is Bieneny the perfect candidate? IMO No! But is also simply disingenuous to imply that Bieniemy is essentially UNQUAILIFED and just carrying coffee. Don't like him fine, I personally believe that there are better candidates but lets be fair.... https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/05/kansas-city-chiefs-head-coach-andy-reid-recommends-offensive-coordinator-eric-bieniemy-for-head-coaching-job/ 100% And the thing is.....I have no idea if he’s gonna be a good HC or not, I honestly think he should stay away from the Jets because it’s clear from the vitriol that he would not be given the benefit of time to build this team, and it’s clear the next HC of this team is gonna need time to build and it’s prob gonna look ugly early on in the process. I just find it odd that people call Bieniemy coffee fetcher but guys like Nagy and Pedersen were lauded on these message boards for their offensive acumen while having the same exact responsibility(or lack thereof) under Andy Reid and for less time..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, jgb said: And I don’t want to get political but Woody likes to curry favor with the league. Care to expound upon this?........... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Warfish said: Replace one clipboard holder coffee go-getter with another at Head Coach? No thanks. How about we hire a Coach who ACTUALLY is responsible for COACHING a SUCCESSFUL team or unit? Not the guy who brings that guy coffee. Andy Reid never won a superbowl until he worked with Eric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Black candidates have more to prove to some people...including NFL decisionmakers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Warfish said: In fairness, we don't really know that either. That's the thing, no one really knows WHAT Bienemy is or isn't. He's not in charge of anything or responsible for anything personally, which makes it impossible to tell what he IS to be evaluated on. I heard him rip into Edwards Helaire for missing blocks on goal line carries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, More Cowbell said: Speared in the ribs, limping back on the field and throws a TD. That is my kind of QB. Absolutely uncanny accuracy on deep passes, one after another. I'm not an expert by any means but I was extremely impressed. And someday we probably will find out that he had a couple of broken ribs. 6 TD passes while toughing it out? I'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Well this is what Reid and Mahomes say about Bieniemy..... “I’d say hire him, like right now,” Reid said. “That’s what I’d tell you. I don’t want to lose him, but if you’re asking me if he’s ready to be a head coach? Yeah, he’s ready. He was ready last year. Nobody is in more control than what he is within this game. He is a leader of men. He knows football, but he knows the offense like the back of his hand. He is in the quarterback room every day. I think if you talked to Patrick, I think Patrick would tell you how much of an influence he has had on him.” With Mahomes taking the podium just after Reid, reporters did ask Mahomes about Bieniemy and his influence. “I think the details and the way he is able to control the room to get the best out of every single player is a big thing,” Mahomes said. “He holds you to a high standard and he holds you to the standard that you need to be perfect with every single rep you get in practice. I think those details and that standard he holds everybody to elevates everyone’s game.” Far from a coffee cup holder! So is Bieneny the perfect candidate? IMO No! But is also simply disingenuous to imply that Bieniemy is essentially UNQUAILIFED and just carrying coffee. Don't like him fine, I personally believe that there are better candidates but lets be fair.... https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/05/kansas-city-chiefs-head-coach-andy-reid-recommends-offensive-coordinator-eric-bieniemy-for-head-coaching-job/ Doesn't he have some wackiness/brushes with the law in his background? That concerns me regarding his judgment and whether he will be able to deal with the NY media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 hours ago, johnnysd said: Because he has been interviewed like 10 times or more the last 2 years and gotten exactly 0 serious interest. Why would he all of a sudden be a good candidate? So your deep reasoning is others passed him by, why shouldnt we do the same? And if others made a mistake, we should just go along with it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 hours ago, nycdan said: Seriously. I think, barring something horrible in the finals, we should all get comfortable with the idea of seeing J. Fields as a Jet next year. Which I'm totally fine with and which may give me JUST enough time to stop calling him Joe. Because I am really screwing that up. Maybe he can snap the ball to himself. Then you got Joe and Justin covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 hours ago, nycdan said: Five games but you were SO close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, football guy said: One thing that’s worth mentioning is that Fields is the #2 ranked QB in this class going back to HS. The guy who’s stats you posted wasn’t even close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Eric, sleeping with Bieniemy! One of Boomer’s best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, jgb said: Brace for it folks, Bieniemy is the odds on favorite and the prototypical Woody hire. And will be the right hire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Blackout said: And will be the right hire Can honestly say I don’t know. Bieniemy is a mystery to me. Hard to know where his duties begin and Andy Reid’s end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 How do we know that Eric Bienemy has learned enough by watching Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes do their thing that he could be a good head coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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