More Cowbell Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I mean yeah pretty much, it could get ugly quick for them. We’re in an envious position where we can sit back and let this play out. Douglas won’t get taken advantage of Watson is going to go where he is traded. If he wants to come to the Jets, he has no excuse not to go to any other team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Imagine if we trade for Deshaun, then Jags take Fields #1 overall. LOL I'd sh*t in my pants. Literally. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Like I've been saying the more info that comes out the more leverage the Jets get. If in fact Watson wants to come to the Jets and only the Jets this makes it much easier for Joe Douglas to make a deal. Douglas knowing this info (and I'm sure he has his own info as well that we don't know about) the initial offer from the Jets may be lower than you think if in fact Douglas wants Watson. I hope he can get a deal done and still retain our number 2 over all pick so we can trade out of that pick and add 2-3 more weapons on offense. So this years 23 Next years 1 and a 1 in 2023 would be a good package along with Sammy. If they like Sam It may turn out to be 2 number 1's and Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static14 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Imagine if we trade for Deshaun, then Jags take Fields #1 overall. LOL I'd sh*t in my pants. Literally. Would that mean the curse is finally broken?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Imagine if we trade for Deshaun, then Jags take Fields #1 overall. LOL I'd sh*t in my pants. Literally. Hey that's not too far fetched and I'm sure Douglas will kick those tires as well as to what direction the Jags are going. I mean the percentage is a small one that they don't draft Lawrence but we've seen plenty of stupid over the years and we didn't even have to go too far to see it LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Watson is going to go where he is traded. If he wants to come to the Jets, he has no excuse not to go to any other team. He has a no trade clause tho, don’t think you’re fully grasping that fact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Not really. Has a no trade clause. Watson can say no to the team Texans get the best offer from and instead say he wants the Jets. Of course the Jets would have to be offering at least 90% of what the offer was to get the Texans to cave in. I mentioned this in another post. Watson no trade clause has no teeth. If the Texans get the best offer from say Minnesota just a sa hypothetical, and he says I am not playing there, it's too cold and the Texans say we are taking this offer, trade clause or not. What alternatives does Watson have? My contract has a no trade clause so you have to listen to me? I'd he going to hold out and cost himself a massive amount of money if they don't send him where he is asking? I would say about the only party this benefits would be the Jets if he wants to cone here. All the Jets have to do is offer fair compensation which could be Seattle's picks and not ours but I don't think that will fly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, Butterfield said: No trade clause. What is Watson recourse? Is he going to sue the Texans and be tied up in court for months? I doubt there is anything that says the Texans can't slow walk this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Wow! Looks like he might be coming here actually MAKE IT SO, JOE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: He has a no trade clause tho, don’t think you’re fully grasping that fact I am. His recourse is going to court. I doubt Goodell let's that happen. I also think he loses unless there is specific language that says Watson can demand a trade and pick the team. Have you seen the clause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: Make it happen Tanny Make it so, Joe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: This really has no bearing on where he goes. He goes to the team the Texans make a deal with. He has a no trade clause. He can literally veto any trade he doesn't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I mentioned this in another post. Watson no trade clause has no teeth. If the Texans get the best offer from say Minnesota just a sa hypothetical, and he says I am not playing there, it's too cold and the Texans say we are taking this offer, trade clause or not. What alternatives does Watson have? My contract has a no trade clause so you have to listen to me? I'd he going to hold out and cost himself a massive amount of money if they don't send him where he is asking? I would say about the only party this benefits would be the Jets if he wants to cone here. All the Jets have to do is offer fair compensation which could be Seattle's picks and not ours but I don't think that will fly. That's exactly what it means. That's the point of the clause. He can say no to Minnesota. Texans are the ones that signed him to a huge deal already. They're the ones that need to make a deal or they're screwed. (or obviously make amends and keep him) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, k-met57 said: this must be how the dallas fans felt during the jamal adams saga nah... no one really cared all that much about selling the farm for a box safety there. This, however is about QB. Night and day difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhartonJet Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Like I've been saying the more info that comes out the more leverage the Jets get. If in fact Watson wants to come to the Jets and only the Jets this makes it much easier for Joe Douglas to make a deal. Douglas knowing this info (and I'm sure he has his own info as well that we don't know about) the initial offer from the Jets may be lower than you think if in fact Douglas wants Watson. I hope he can get a deal done and still retain our number 2 over all pick so we can trade out of that pick and add 2-3 more weapons on offense. So this years 23 Next years 1 and a 1 in 2023 would be a good package along with Sammy. If they like Sam It may turn out to be 2 number 1's and Sam I don't see how the Texans agree to the trade without the #2 overall. If they are moving on from Watson, they have to sell the fanbase on something which would be Fields/Wilson at #2. I don't think Sam Darnold will placate the fans there who will already be pissed after losing Hopkins and Watson in consecutive offseasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 @HessStation @The Crusher @Integrity28 @Pac @CTM Which is the bigger cock tease? The chance of Watson or....errrrr....Aliens? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Either the agent is just trolling at this point (he’s been linked to the Jets a couple times on Twitter) and he’s just gonna go back to Houston. Or he legitimately is gonna force a trade here. Should be interesting They just want a trade done, and the Jets have the ammo to do it. Really don’t think it’s any special love for the Jets. I know Watson wanted Saleh, but this is still a 2-14 team that would have to give up a lot to land him. Probably too much to build a team around him this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, JiF said: @HessStation @The Crusher @Integrity28 @Pac @CTM Which is the bigger cock tease? The chance of Watson or....errrrr....Aliens? Watson. I say this, because I remember you and I being two of the only chuckleheads here who wanted him over Jamal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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More Cowbell Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, slimjasi said: He has a no trade clause. He can literally veto any trade he doesn't like. Sure he can. So what happens if the Texans say if you don't allow us to accept this deal, we won't negotiate with any other team? What is his recourse at that point. I don't think the Texans really want to trade him in the first place. No trade clauses work when the team wants to trade you, not when the player is wanting to be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: That's exactly what it means. That's the point of the clause. He can say no to Minnesota. Texans are the ones that signed him to a huge deal already. They're the ones that need to make a deal or they're screwed. (or obviously make amends and keep him) No trade clauses work if the team is committed to trading the player. I don't think that is the case. The Texans would probably be happy to say, well ok, we won't take that deal, so I guess your staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Sure he can. So what happens if the Texans say if you don't allow us to accept this deal, we won't negotiate with any other team? What is his recourse at that point. I don't think the Texans really want to trade him in the first place. No trade clauses work when the team wants to trade you, not when the player is wanting to be traded. If it really gets that ugly, the Texans will have to trade him and move on. Star players who want out get traded. I personally still think there is a decent chance the Texans work it out with him, but if it comes to the point that he actually demands a trade, I think the Jets have a good shot at landing him. We can put together the best package, IMO. However, I'm still skeptical that JD will spend the draft capital necessary to get this done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, bla bla bla said: If the Texans want to hire a coach they may want to make the move beforehand. That job is so horrible, you are either the guy that traded Watson or you are they guy stuck on the Texans without Watson. I agree but they can’t actually trade him yet right? Someone mentioned 6 weeks. They can’t wait forever to hire a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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talisaynon Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Where there's smoke there's fire. I dont think they can get any more clear here that Watson wants to go to the Jets. our 1st pick and Seattles 1st next year + this years second. Lets get it done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, JiF said: @HessStation @The Crusher @Integrity28 @Pac @CTM Which is the bigger cock tease? The chance of Watson or....errrrr....Aliens? hrm, can the aliens ball like Watson? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, slimjasi said: If it really gets that ugly, the Texans will have to trade him and move on. Star players who want out get traded. I personally still think there is a decent chance the Texans work it out with him, but if it comes to the point that he actually demands a trade, I think the Jets have a good shot at landing him. We can put together the best package, IMO. However, I'm still skeptical that JD will spend the draft capital necessary to get this done. I agree with that last part, I don't see Douglas making that offer. I think he highly values high draft picks and you have to be offering something he doesn't think he can fill with them and he can fill a QB role with them this season. I think a trade for say Wilson or Fields would be more likely straight up but a f again, I think Watson can veto a trade but I don't think he can force one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I wish some one would interview JD and ask him about this Watson situation going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, DetroitRed said: Isn’t this getting a little desperate? It is. Just a little crazy how hyped this has gotten and how desperate Watson has become to go to the Jets. DeShaun and his agent really need to cool their jets and not seem so eager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, long time suffering Jets f said: I wish some one would interview JD and ask him about this Watson situation going on. He can't say anything. He's under contract with Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, KRL said: And if anyone thinks HOU is going to trade him within the AFC they're crazy Who has the draft capital needed to A. Get them Wilson or Fields B. Have enough draft capital to forego 3 consecutive years of no 1st rd. picks C. Have the Cap space to take on that contract with the new level around $183 mil D. Not be anywhere close to a PO/SB appearance to save face for Texans ownership (Miami) E. Is outside their division (Jags) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, long time suffering Jets f said: I wish some one would interview JD and ask him about this Watson situation going on. Can't wait for the next @GREENBEAN podcast!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, Dcat said: nah... no one really cared all that much about selling the farm for a box safety there. This, however is about QB. Night and day difference. Not exactly true. I live in Dallas and they were on the edge of the seats while the rumors were flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I mentioned this in another post. Watson no trade clause has no teeth. If the Texans get the best offer from say Minnesota just a sa hypothetical, and he says I am not playing there, it's too cold and the Texans say we are taking this offer, trade clause or not. What alternatives does Watson have? My contract has a no trade clause so you have to listen to me? I'd he going to hold out and cost himself a massive amount of money if they don't send him where he is asking? I would say about the only party this benefits would be the Jets if he wants to cone here. All the Jets have to do is offer fair compensation which could be Seattle's picks and not ours but I don't think that will fly. Yes. That's exactly what he's doing even before the trade. The motivation to trade him at all is the same thing. They don't have to trade him... "Is he going to hold out and cost himself a massive amount of money if they don't trade me" Simply swap out "send him where he is asking" for "trade me" and it's the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, talisaynon said: Where there's smoke there's fire. I dont think they can get any more clear here that Watson wants to go to the Jets. our 1st pick and Seattles 1st next year + this years second. Lets get it done. Both Seattle picks and #2 overall. That's Jamal and Fields for Watson.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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