Popular Post JohnnyLV Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 If this weekend showed anything it is that winning is all about surrounding your QB with the most talent possible. It is obvious. Even the #1 defense in the league cannot match up with elite playmakers. Not saying you should ignore defense, but with our robust lineup of Corey Davis, Elijah Moore and possibly Berrios and nothing at TE we should go into this offseason planning on getting at least 2 high level WR and TEs and more OL. Our first 4 picks should be on offense at least. And before you all cry "but but EDGE!!!" 9 sacks was not enough to win in the Cincy game. It is ALL about playmakers. As Saleh said "we will lift you (Zach) up not the other way around" Well go fooking do it. 16 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 The Bills #1 status was fake. They played a lot of sub-standard QBs and they play a gamble defense based on NFL trends. Teams that call their bluff own their defense and as we just saw, when it's called, they can't do anything. That's nice and all during the regular season, but they need a stouter defense if they want a ring even if they were missing White. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 hours ago, johnnysd said: If this weekend showed anything it is that winning is all about surrounding your QB with the most talent possible. It is obvious. Even the #1 defense in the league cannot match up with elite playmakers. Not saying you should ignore defense, but with our robust lineup of Corey Davis, Elijah Moore and possibly Berrios and nothing at TE we should go into this offseason planning on getting at least 2 high level WR and TEs and more OL. Our first 4 picks should be on offense at least. And before you all cry "but but EDGE!!!" 9 sacks was not enough to win in the Cincy game. It is ALL about playmakers. As Saleh said "we will lift you (Zach) up not the other way around" Well go fooking do it. Cincy game was quite the exception IMHO ... that amount of beating up the opposing QB will get you the win more often than not. Tanny shat the bed, and Burrow played phenomenally - you can do that once in a head to head situation but not week in week out. Let's not forget that Buffalo held KC on quite a lot of drives (2 punts, 4 FG attempts). That still requires defense. I can't see our Jets stopping Mahomes from scoring a TD 6 times in a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 hours ago, johnnysd said: If this weekend showed anything it is that winning is all about surrounding your QB with the most talent possible. It is obvious. Even the #1 defense in the league cannot match up with elite playmakers. Not saying you should ignore defense, but with our robust lineup of Corey Davis, Elijah Moore and possibly Berrios and nothing at TE we should go into this offseason planning on getting at least 2 high level WR and TEs and more OL. Our first 4 picks should be on offense at least. And before you all cry "but but EDGE!!!" 9 sacks was not enough to win in the Cincy game. It is ALL about playmakers. As Saleh said "we will lift you (Zach) up not the other way around" Well go fooking do it. Couldn't agree more. Finish building the Offense. Give me 52-49 shootouts anytime 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 hours ago, johnnysd said: If this weekend showed anything it is that winning is all about surrounding your QB with the most talent possible. It is obvious. Even the #1 defense in the league cannot match up with elite playmakers. Not saying you should ignore defense, but with our robust lineup of Corey Davis, Elijah Moore and possibly Berrios and nothing at TE we should go into this offseason planning on getting at least 2 high level WR and TEs and more OL. Our first 4 picks should be on offense at least. And before you all cry "but but EDGE!!!" 9 sacks was not enough to win in the Cincy game. It is ALL about playmakers. As Saleh said "we will lift you (Zach) up not the other way around" Well go fooking do it. Right there with you. But even more so- COMPETENCE out of our offensive playmakers. How many errant passes were picked off the carpet by a TE or WR or throws receivers had to cork screw around to catch. I saw very very few drops. We have more drops in one game than I saw all weekend. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 This draft stinks for offense. I’d rather build the offense thru free agency and trades and use the draft for the defense 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft #10 - best wr in the draft #35 - best te in the draft #38 - best rb in the draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 There's more than one way to win a football game. One game this weekend doesn't change that. Yes, the Chiefs won with offense yesterday. Last year the Bucs beat them in the superbowl with defense. On Saturday the Niners beat the high powered Packers offense with defense and special teams. BTW - there's only one Patrick Mahomes. Good luck finding a QB who can do the things that guy does. You won't. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft #10 - best wr in the draft #35 - best te in the draft #38 - best rb in the draft You also stated the Titans would steamroll the Bengals. 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: There's more than one way to win a football game. One game this weekend doesn't change that. Yes, the Chiefs won with offense. Last year the Bucs beat them in the superbowl with defense. On Saturday the Niners beat the high powered Packers offense with defense and special teams. Good point we tend to overreact to small sample sizes and what JUST happened. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 50 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: You also stated the Titans would steamroll the Bengals. HAHAHAHAHAHA. I forgot that Ryan Tannehill is a complete turd. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I believe it is spelled "weaponz" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft #10 - best wr in the draft #35 - best te in the draft #38 - best rb in the draft Yea, but you keep getting #38 wrong lol... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, JetPotato said: I believe it is spelled "weaponz" Wait I thought we didn't need weaponz for a QB to succeed. Sheesh I wish people would make up their minds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft #10 - best wr in the draft #35 - best te in the draft #38 - best rb in the draft You also stated that pork was tastier than any fillet mignon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft #10 - best wr in the draft #35 - best te in the draft #38 - best rb in the draft Almost agree with you. There really isn’t a RB in this draft we need to take at 38 that we can’t get something similar much much later. Therefore, 35 or 38 I would go defense and take one of the 2nd tier edge guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft #10 - best wr in the draft #35 - best te in the draft #38 - best rb in the draft Sure, offense is very important, especially in today's NFL, but the offense is going nowhere if the defense is allowing 40 points/game. There is no need for another RB, especially in this draft. After their 27-3 loss to the Titans, the Chiefs didn't allow another 30 point game until their loss to the Bengals. And guess what? They won all of the game in that stretch. In 6 of their first 7 games they allowed 27+ points, and they were 3-4. So while offense is important, a good defense helps offense play better. We need to draft defense, and while offense is probably priority we shouldn't be exclusive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxville Jets Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 My reaction to last night’s game was a little different — it was that pass rush is critical to stopping QBs like Allen and Mahomes. If Douglas doesn’t take a pass rusher at 4, I can seriously see him taking Travon Walker at 10. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft #10 - best wr in the draft #35 - best te in the draft #38 - best rb in the draft It's not shopping in the supermarket. Who you draft kind of depends on what the other 31 teams do as well. And a big fat NO to a TE and a RB in the second round. You can get good players at those positions in rounds 3 and later. You can talk offense all you want, but a pass rush is what shuts down offenses in the NFL. The Jets need a pass rush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: This draft stinks for offense. I’d rather build the offense thru free agency and trades and use the draft for the defense Exactly Trading one of those 2nd’s for a Cooper or Ridley, I’m more than fine with (still prefer Cooper). But the overwhelming strength of this class is on the defensive side of the ball and I don’t even see how that’s debatable. Very solid class for edgerushers, corners, safeties and LB’s. And we have overwhelming needs in each of those areas. The only unit where it’s pretty barren is for interior DL. And I don’t want one anyway. On the offensive side, it’s a solid group along the OL, but no one can agree on who the top wideout is, there isn’t a 1st round TE no matter how much people want to pump up Trey McBride, the QB group is maybe the worst since Ponder/Locker/Gabbert in 2011, and there isn’t a standout RB. Use most of the FA cash to add some pieces to the offense, trade one of those 2nd’s for Cooper, and then attack the hell out of the defensive side of the ball come April. That Buffalo/KC game has completely warped peoples views. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft (for the Jets that's likely Ekwonu) #10 - best wr in the draft (Wilson, London or Burks?) #35 - best te in the draft (Wydermyer or McBride) #38 - best rb in the draft (Spiller?) Some comments above. I'd need to have one defender in there though, likely an Edge rusher at #35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: Some comments above. I'd need to have one defender in there though, likely an Edge rusher at #35. If we can get a competent edge in FA I would love somehow to fry Nkobe Dean. Would become the leader of that defense in a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: If we can get a competent edge in FA I would love somehow to fry Nkobe Dean. Would become the leader of that defense in a year. This is a Draft where instead of the Jets having two 1st round picks at #4 and #10, I'd rather have 4 picks between #15 and #32. To me it just feels like the sweet spot is outside the Top 10 and lasts through the 2nd round. Between 15 and 32 that's where you could get a Nakobe Dean (or Lloyd) at LB, a starting WR like Wilson, London or Burks, an Edge Rusher like Cameron Thomas, and still add an OT like Petit-Friere or Raismann. That's 2 starters on O and 2 on D before we'd even get to Round 2. I'm praying for a tradeback somehow by JD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 hours ago, HighPitch said: You also stated that pork was tastier than any fillet mignon It is. Filet mignon is a crap overpriced cut of meat for people who can’t cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 As far as the draft the Jets need more then one off season to fix the team. ED, CB, WR, RB, TE, S, OL, DL etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, johnnysd said: If this weekend showed anything it is that winning is all about surrounding your QB with the most talent possible. It is obvious. Even the #1 defense in the league cannot match up with elite playmakers. Not saying you should ignore defense, but with our robust lineup of Corey Davis, Elijah Moore and possibly Berrios and nothing at TE we should go into this offseason planning on getting at least 2 high level WR and TEs and more OL. Our first 4 picks should be on offense at least. And before you all cry "but but EDGE!!!" 9 sacks was not enough to win in the Cincy game. It is ALL about playmakers. As Saleh said "we will lift you (Zach) up not the other way around" Well go fooking do it. I think we see what we want to see. Dallas, for all of the resources they've spent on QB, OL, WR and RB couldn't score. GB, with a HoF QB and the best WR in the NFL also couldn't find the EZ for 3+ quarters. Jets need defense early because I'm sure none of the teams playing this weekend gave up 500 points this season, though I admittedly didn't look it up. Get an OT who can play OG for a season with pick 4, trade down from 10 and get some help at edge, TE, WR, LB and S. Edited January 25, 2022 by AFJF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, New York Mick said: It is. Filet mignon is a crap overpriced cut of meat for people who can’t cook. This is demonstrably untrue. I can make filet taste better than any cut of pork and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: This is a Draft where instead of the Jets having two 1st round picks at #4 and #10, I'd rather have 4 picks between #15 and #32. To me it just feels like the sweet spot is outside the Top 10 and lasts through the 2nd round. Between 15 and 32 that's where you could get a Nakobe Dean (or Lloyd) at LB, a starting WR like Wilson, London or Burks, an Edge Rusher like Cameron Thomas, and still add an OT like Petit-Friere or Raismann. That's 2 starters on O and 2 on D before we'd even get to Round 2. I'm praying for a tradeback somehow by JD. You and me both. I know it’s not going to happen by we gotta get out of 4. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, AFJF said: I think we see what we want to see. Dallas, for all of the resources they've spent on QB, OL, WR and RB couldn't score. GB, with a HoF QB and the best WR in the NFL also couldn't find the EZ for 3+ quarters. Jets need defense early because I'm sure none of the teams playing this weekend gave up 500 points this season, though I admittedly didn't look it up. Get an OT who can play OG for a season with pick 4, trade down from 10 and get some help at edge, TE, WR, LB and S. For me it just goes back to this. I actually do not care about the defense at all relative to giving Zach the support he needs to grow and develop. Our offense is far far from settled at OL, WR and TE. We need probably 2 WR 2 TE and at least 1 OL that are not JAGS this offseason. Not doing that trying to plug holes in defense early in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, johnnysd said: For me it just goes back to this. I actually do not care about the defense at all relative to giving Zach the support he needs to grow and develop. Our offense is far far from settled at OL, WR and TE. We need probably 2 WR 2 TE and at least 1 OL that are not JAGS this offseason. Not doing that trying to plug holes in defense early in the draft. This post is spot on. Yes we need Edge and several LBs but considering the fantastic TE and WR play this weekend it’s obvious what we need to do. Also would love another RB to compliment Carter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 53 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: This is demonstrably untrue. I can make filet taste better than any cut of pork and vice versa. You obviously know how to cook well. A lot of people can’t and lamb is the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, New York Mick said: lamb is the best. I will agree with you there. I have a frozen boneless leg of lamb in my freezer, cannot wait to pull that bad boy out. I think baby loin lamb chops on the grill with a simple S-P and fresh rosemary rub is my favorite all time meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: There's more than one way to win a football game. One game this weekend doesn't change that. Yes, the Chiefs won with offense yesterday. Last year the Bucs beat them in the superbowl with defense. On Saturday the Niners beat the high powered Packers offense with defense and special teams. BTW - there's only one Patrick Mahomes. Good luck finding a QB who can do the things that guy does. You won't. The Bucs beat the Chiefs with defense because the Chiefs were without both starting tackles. Wirfs out yesterday… same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I think they need players to carry the ball over the goal line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: I stated this weeks ago: #4 - best olineman in the draft #10 - best wr in the draft #35 - best te in the draft #38 - best rb in the draft No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.