David Harris Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I understand the point of the thread.... However, the days of a squib costing a team 3+ seconds seem long gone. IMO KC would have fielded it on a knee or immediately kneeled. It probably wouldn’t have run any time off the clock unless KC fumbled it. All it would have done is maybe given KC better field position. The Bills defense screwed up it as simple as that.. 13 seconds is not enough time on a really great defense, period... That prevent defense was just terrible. just surrendered 20 yards to Hill on the first play. Kelce got wide open on the second. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: A squib kick not only gets the clock moving but if driven well also likely has the Chiefs starting inside their own 25. Criminal not to squib kick there. I said it in real time as we were watching 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Larz said: Nope ckock starts only with an attempt to return. You dive on it and give yourself up. I’ve seen it before You might be giving yourself up at the 15 yard line and you lose a second or two before it’s called dead. Squib it every time to waste those 6-7 seconds if the other team is foolish enough to return it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 40 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Kick it in the air to the 5 yard line ??♂️ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Yup, similar idea to the squib. Gets the clock moving and gives a high probability the ball doesn't come past the 25. I understand Buffalo's thinking there. If it's a touchback then KC starts at the 25 and has 13 seconds to move the ball 40 yards.... which they basically did in two plays. The credit really goes to Andy Reid and Mahomes. They needed two medium yardage plays and nailed them! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: You might be giving yourself up at the 15 yard line and you lose a second or two before it’s called dead. Squib it every time to waste those 6-7 seconds if the other team is foolish enough to return it. You might get it at the 27 Squibs ain’t exact. No time comes off the clock what if it squibs out of bounds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The failure to squib and the pass rushing with 4 with only 8 seconds left were unforgivable coaching errors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Snell41 said: Kick it in the air to the 5 yard line ??♂️ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app This is the play. You kick it high and short to the 5-10 yard line. If KC returns it, they run 4-5 seconds off and Mahomes has one play tops. If KC fair catches the ball, they have an extra 10-15 yards to go to get into FG range. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 hours ago, johnnyjet said: 3-5 seconds There was 4 seconds left when they kicked the FG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: The failure to squib and the pass rushing with 4 with only 8 seconds left were unforgivable coaching errors. Something tells me he’ll be forgiven. They had a great season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 A poorly executed squib quick could also backfire 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Gen X Jet said: McDermot should be on the hot seat for sure Are you kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Fans and media always looking for blame. A poorly executed squib would have been worse than kicking deep. The Chiefs only had 13 seconds from their 25. Everyone thought the game was over. They over came extreme odds. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Prevent defense prevents you from winning . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Sure KC would’ve told their players to fall on it but chance instinct kicks in and some special teamer sees an opening and tries to make something happen. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 That’s a more reasonable critique but have we ever seen a team go 45 yards in 2 plays before? And the kick was good by a lot But I was told the Buffalo Bills had the number one defense. Again defenses wear out and the rules favor the offense. Only thing that much matters is getting to the QB ideally with only your front 3 or 4. If you don’t a superior QB will pick you apart. So pick a safety ; right . Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bugg said: Sure KC would’ve told their players to fall on it but chance instinct kicks in and some special teamer sees an opening and tries to make something happen. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I think GB had something similar happen a few years back - returner was told to take a knee but ran it back and fumbled, something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 That was one of the most exciting games I've ever seen. I understand them kicking it out the back of the endzone, kick returns cab be fluky but hindsight you prefer that over the Chiefs offense. This game was lost by the Chiefs defense, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold615 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 hours ago, johnnyjet said: I lost 20 fringing dollars because of that 1 play. I had a 50 dollar parlay on 49ers, rams and bills ML. Payout over 1K… wasn’t too happy about that last kickoff and defensive stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 hours ago, johnnyjet said: …and you bet? Not sure if my comment made you think I did or didnt.... but out of sheer curiosity, Whats your guess ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 People often overlook special teams, but Green Bay and Buffalo have now been knocked out due to special teams screw ups. Ironically that seems to be the Jet’s strong point (except for the kicker)Don’t you disgrace the great Eddy Pineiro like that Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Jetluv58 said: Something tells me he’ll be forgiven. They had a great season. Poor choice of words. Perhaps inexcusable would be better. And by no means was I implying that anything should be done to the coaches because of it. Buffalo has excellent coaches and I am sure they will learn from the experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Kicking for the touchback, and then proceeding to give HUGE cushions to the receivers when KC had all their timeouts was just plain dumb. The coaching in those final 13 seconds was mindboggling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 They went into KC and played their asses off. Allen was incredible. Mahomes, Hill and Kelce are simply unstoppable when they're on. Go back to 2018 against New England. They scored 24 in the 4th quarter to take it to overtime before not getting a chance in OT to win. When they're on the D is exhausted they're like a video game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Larz said: Nope ckock starts only with an attempt to return. You dive on it and give yourself up. I’ve seen it before But then you have it at the 2. They should have kicked it down inside the 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSIDE Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Everyone forgot about the music city miracle? U don’t squib it there- u can just down a squib kick and no time runs off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Anyone else as surprised as me that the Bills didn't go for it on 4th and 1 near midfield on their first drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think they were so scared of the ball going into Tyreeks hands they figured let’s just kick it in the end zone and play defense for 13 seconds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I think they were so scared of the ball going into Tyreeks hands they figured let’s just kick it in the end zone and play defense for 13 seconds I think you’re probably right. They just forgot the defense part. Second guessing is easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said: A decent high school coach knows to do that. It simply beggars belief that coaches on the NFL level make such egregious mistakes...clock management is another one. isn't there a guy out there that has this experience and just became available? Might have to supply with him with some tennis balls - but other than that - he is good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetworks Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 If Hill is back there to return, you kick through the EZ and force the touchback. That wasn't the case. Kicking/squib kicking likely starts the Chiefs at something less than the 25, and also may burn some of the 13s if one of the upbacks bobbles the kick and can't kneel quickly enough to stop play. Catastrophic tactical error on the part of the Bills CS/STs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think a squib has the potential to backfire. I can understand why you'd be afraid to do that as a coach, they might end up with much better field position. What you really want to do is kick it high and short to like the 10 yard line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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