oatmeal Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Saleh didn’t hire himself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, BurntDice said: Say the jets win 7 games this year do you fire Saleh? Do you believe the Jets will win 7 games this year? If you do, I presume it's based on the return of Zach Wilson, as that's the only real variable at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Coquito said: Gotta get rid of Woody Johnson. He’s a billionaire he’s living to 300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, jgb said: He’s a billionaire he’s living to 300 Top notch Simpsons episode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Winning last game was a miracle aberration. It was fun as hell to watch, and I'll always remember it. But it didnt change what has happened throughout every minute of this season. It wasnt something to build on. It wasnt a sign of things to come in. It was one team completely imploding after they thought the game was over and the other getting every single break and executing. Saleh is a bad coach. He has been outcoached almost every quarter of football since he was hired. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Winning last game was a miracle aberration. It was fun as hell to watch, and I'll always remember it. But it didnt change what has happened throughout every minute of this season. It wasnt something to build on. It wasnt a sign of things to come in. It was one time completely imploding and the other getting every single break and executing. Saleh is a bad coach. He has been outcoached almost every quarter of football since he was hired. And if the season really heads south, phony wins like that won't help us come draft day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, thshadow said: I don't get it, I personally am happy when the Jets win, and sad when they lose. You're pissed both when they win *and* lose? And you plan to gloat after every loss? Geez, get a life. One where you're not a Jet fan - though you already don't seem to be. I'm happy when they win too, but also realistic enough to know when that "win" was only a win in name. One of us watched the entire game and understood just how bad the team was for 3.85 quarters and got lucky, understanding that it was only saved from being a loss due to another teams complete ineptitude. Make no mistake. We are actually 0-3 and you are fine with it. I just have higher standards than you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warfish said: Do you believe the Jets will win 7 games this year? If you do, I presume it's based on the return of Zach Wilson, as that's the only real variable at this point. I think they’ll win 7. However I don’t think Zach is the only variable. There are so many new pieces on the team that should improve with time. The ol should improve much like they did last year. There are so many groups with new pieces that should get better such as tes, cbs, dl, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BurntDice said: I think they’ll win 7. However I don’t think Zach is the only variable. There are so many new pieces on the team that should improve with time. The ol should improve much like they did last year. There are so many groups with new pieces that should get better such as tes, cbs, dl, etc I applaud your optimism but I do not share it. There are certainly 6 more winnable games on our schedule. I don't see this broken roster, this O-line, this Defense, Zach Wilson, winning them. JMO, but again, I respect your optimism in the face of what we saw so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Sloppy tackling, atrocious unnecessary roughness penalties are all a reflection of the coaching staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I would fire Saleh and promote Middleton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 It’s time to start asking what Saleh actually brings to the table. We’re 20 games in and it’s hard to see where he actually adds value. He’s certainly a net negative from a scheme standpoint on defense. He seems like a net negative on game management. His teams are undisciplined. His teams don’t seem particularly well prepared. They don’t seem tough or physical. They’re constantly injured. I guess he keeps the vibes good as the team gets blown out every week. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said: It’s time to start asking what Saleh actually brings to the table. We’re 20 games in and it’s hard to see where he actually adds value. He’s certainly a net negative from a scheme standpoint on defense. He seems like a net negative on game management. His teams don’t seem particularly well prepared. They don’t seem tough or physical. I guess he keeps the vibes good as the team gets blown out every week. The sequence where the bengals scored a td on 3 plays in a row said it all. First was called back b/c of holding, second should have been a td when they said Higgins was out of bounds but he wasn’t and then they scored for real. The jets d can’t do anything. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warfish said: I applaud your optimism but I do not share it. There are certainly 6 more winnable games on our schedule. I don't see this broken roster, this O-line, this Defense, Zach Wilson, winning them. JMO, but again, I respect your optimism in the face of what we saw so far this season. I dont even see 7 wins as that optimistic. Being 7-10 is not a good season, but it’s an improvement. The Q outburst today was a good thing in my eyes. It shows that these guys care and want to win. They have leaders in the building now. Who were the leaders a few years ago? Sheldon, wilk, Jamal? All me first guys. The character of the guys on the team seems like a 180 compared to previous years. This should help build each other up instead of tearing them down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I like Saleh and I want to believe that he is the right coach. I'm just not seeing it. Whatever the "it factor" is, Saleh doesn't have "it" at least for the time being. There have been great coaches who had abysmal starts to their HC career so it's at least plausible that he can develop into a good head coach. I'm just not seeing the light at the end of his tunnel. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 He better have a plan to help out the LT next week. And clean up the idiot plays on defense. Do the basics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillyjet Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JTJet said: I'm happy when they win too, but also realistic enough to know when that "win" was only a win in name. One of us watched the entire game and understood just how bad the team was for 3.85 quarters and got lucky, understanding that it was only saved from being a loss due to another teams complete ineptitude. Make no mistake. We are actually 0-3 and you are fine with it. I just have higher standards than you do. I have been around to see a lot of coaches come and go here. I’d have to rank Saleh’s teams as the most undisciplined I have seen. Gase’s teams had no talent, and maybe the game plan was equally stale, but they tried to execute what they were asked to execute, even if the talent was lacking… sloppy was not what I would have labeled those teams. If I were to rank the coaches from Parcells onward on team discipline, it would look like this: 1) Parcells 2) Mangini 3) Bowles 4) Gase 5) Edwards 6) Ryan 7) Saleh Make no mistake, the quality of the coaching and discipline of this team over the last two years is in Kotite territory. There is a large spread between Rex and Saleh. 3 to 6 are debatable. Rex would mix games where they were all locked in, with a ton of headscratchers. There is a steep drop-off to Saleh so far. I can’t remember the last flawless game we truly played, where the whole team was in rhythm. Energy and rah-rah doesn’t equate to execution and consistency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Wash rinse repeat and nothing changes. waste of time- this team will forever be a fckn loser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Q nearly assaulting a coach on the sideline is a new low, even for the Jets Saleh has no control over this team He tried to deflect after the game like he always does The next time he lambasts one of his players will be the first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 He isn’t a head coach. He has no idea how to make adjustments, schemes, holding players accountable. The only things he seems to be good at is running the stairs and patting players on the ass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, DLJ said: Wash rinse repeat and nothing changes. waste of time- this team will forever be a fckn loser There’s literally nothing more that needs to be said. If people just accepted this, it wouldn’t be so painful. I’ve accepted this a few years ago for good. Zero stress now. All Laughs No Stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Should have hired Doug Peterson when we had the chance. Opportunity missed again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Jets723 said: He isn’t a head coach. He has no idea how to make adjustments, schemes, holding players accountable. The only things he seems to be good at is running the stairs and patting players on the ass I’m not a head coach either but I’m really good at patting asses and falling down stairs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 According to this Saleh is making 5M per 25M total over 5 years He has 4 wins to show for it https://en.as.com/en/2022/02/01/nfl/1643717463_799339.html?outputType=amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Saleh is atrocious. 5-15 doesn't lie. Well coached teams don't continue making the same mistakes over and over again. His teams play stupid and are often unprepared. He's a terrible coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 7 hours ago, SuicidalSince98 said: I would fire Saleh and promote Middleton I said this 2 weeks ago Couldn’t care less that it would take an hour to do the stadium steps with a bathroom break in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 It just seems like he doesn’t know much even basic X’s and O’s Kind of stuff. Things that are easily correctable he just doesn’t do. I think part of it is stubbornness too. He seems like he wants to do it one way even if it fails 99 times out of a 100. The lack of accountability is also an issue. I’ve heard some say he got in JFM face after that idiotic penalty but I just don’t see it because these kind of things happen every game which shows us the lack of accountability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Jets723 said: It just seems like he doesn’t know much even basic X’s and O’s Kind of stuff. Things that are easily correctable he just doesn’t do. I think part of it is stubbornness too. He seems like he wants to do it one way even if it fails 99 times out of a 100. The lack of accountability is also an issue. I’ve heard some say he got in JFM face after that idiotic penalty but I just don’t see it because these kind of things happen every game which shows us the lack of accountability He probably got into JFM’s face to make sure JFM feelings weren’t hurt from the moronic penalty and to see if he wanted a juice box and cookies…. Saleh is stubborn and soft…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Jets723 said: It just seems like he doesn’t know much even basic X’s and O’s Kind of stuff. Things that are easily correctable he just doesn’t do. I think part of it is stubbornness too. He seems like he wants to do it one way even if it fails 99 times out of a 100. The lack of accountability is also an issue. I’ve heard some say he got in JFM face after that idiotic penalty but I just don’t see it because these kind of things happen every game which shows us the lack of accountability It makes you wonder wtf the Jets talk about to candidates during the hiring process. It all starts at the top. And if they were looking for an incompetent rah rah motivator who is only positive, they got their man. philly and Miami hire new coaches and they’re playing great in their second years. Looks like we chose a turd based on affirmative action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 13 hours ago, jgb said: He’s a billionaire he’s living to 300 But then we get young Christopher. Who hired Gase 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, BP said: It makes you wonder wtf the Jets talk about to candidates during the hiring process. It all starts at the top. And if they were looking for an incompetent rah rah motivator who is only positive, they got their man. philly and Miami hire new coaches and they’re playing great in their second years. Looks like we chose a turd based on affirmative action. Look I’m hoping he turns it around because I don’t want to keep hiring new head coaches every 2 years. Honestly what he should do is get rid of Ulbrich and take over the defensive play calling. But again he seems very stubborn and not willing to make adjustments so who knows if that would work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, BP said: But then we get young Christopher. Who hired Gase The whole Gase thing, what a disaster. Lost out on our first choices because a rookie “acting” owner and maybe the worst GM in Jets history demanded control over assistant hires. So instead, we get the only chair left after the coaching carousel music stops and try to sell it to the fanbase with ret-conned Payton Manning endorsement. What happened if Manning said “this dude sucks?” We never would’ve heard about it and Gase would’ve still been hired because Christopher and Macc’s trash handling of the other potential candidates left the Jets with NO OTHER CHOICE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 This guy as to be on thin ice at this point ... "hey Robert??? Hows the storywall coming ???? When does the team break for nap time???"Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I’ve been of the mind that the Jets will get blasted in this upcoming stretch, but right the ship in he last third of the season to give us some hope, but given how teams are currently playing. It’s a real possibility this team finishes 2-15. Jacksonville looks legit, Seahawks are frisky, and even the Bears are showing some fight right now. Scary times if you’re Saleh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, jgb said: The whole Gase thing, what a disaster. Lost out on our first choices because a rookie “acting” owner and maybe the worst GM in Jets history demanded control over assistant hires. So instead, we get the only chair left after the coaching carousel music stops and try to sell it to the fanbase with ret-conned Payton Manning endorsement. What happened if Manning said “this dude sucks?” We never would’ve heard about it and Gase would’ve still been hired because Christopher and Macc’s trash handling of the other potential candidates left the Jets with NO OTHER CHOICE. The alternative was Matt Rhule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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