Guilhermezmc Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 54 minutes ago, pointman said: Jets fans haven't had a real QB since... Testaverde, maybe? Yet here we are talking about Lamar. "Lamar Jackson?? Pfft that nincompoop?? He suck. I wouldn't give the Bills 6th round pick for him. He's awful!" Meanwhile, "That Mike White kid. He is something else. He has a chance to be a top 5 QB if we get the OC to work a scheme that fits his talents". They want jordan love for 2 seconds and elijah moore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, pointman said: Cool. Yes. Question: Do you think that someone of his talent, that is still very young, isn't worth serious consideration when we haven't had a real QB in a very long time? The problem is the asking price + money he will want combined with the obvious durability concerns. If the jets are paying a QB that much money, they need him to durable, above all else. I just don’t think Lamar’s game is built for longevity. This is the second year in a row that he’s unavailable down the stretch. Not a great sign. pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, Beerfish said: We should be speculating on actual real possibilities rather than these fantasies. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 The Ravens are a smarter franchise than the Jets. If they won’t give him the contract, it’s probably for good reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, GangGreened said: The Ravens are a smarter franchise than the Jets. If they won’t give him the contract, it’s probably for good reason Well stated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, slimjasi said: The problem is the asking price + money he will want combined with the obvious durability concerns. If the jets are paying a QB that much money, they need him to durable, above all else. I just don’t think Lamar’s game is built for longevity. This is the second year in a row that he’s unavailable down the stretch. Not a great sign. pass He is 25! His injury history (according to some no name site I just googled) said he has had 4 injuries and nothing exceeding a "sprain". He has shown up when he has had to. Right now he is holding out because he has no deal in place. Missing practice (insert Iverson quote here) but is apparently ready to roll in game time. We don't know for sure what his tag will be, but I think it needs serious consideration. He could catapult us to serious contender even with all our shortcomings. With how far we have been from competitive, I don't think we are in any place to simply say "no" based on money that is neither yours or mine to spend. Let the cap guys that are paid handsomely worry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Be_a_Jet said: 2 1sts and a 3rd is what I would be willing to do Biggest issue would be that he is going to want the Watson type of contract where it is fully guaranteed. If it is between 35-50M per year for 4+ years that is such a commitment that can go terribly wrong especially if a bad injury to him occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 No it isn't good value to sign a injury-prone QB to the kind of contract he expects. Somebody will probably pay it but it doesn't have to be the Jets. He gets injured early in the season and you're watching Zach all season. It would be different if the Jets had a good backup option that isn't a total disaster or equally as injury-prone. Also, as somebody pointed out, LaFleur would want him to be a pocket passer which he isn't. Complete waste to bring him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Watson will be back next year. He was extremely rusty. And Russell had the luxury of two elite WRs. Just because they failed doesn’t mean every top QB will fail switching to another team. You are correct; however, it means trading the farm for a QB is by no means a guarantee of future success. No different really than rolling the dice on a high draft pick. As bad as ZW has been for us, Russell Wilson has been a far greater crash and burn for the Broncs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, FootballLove said: Can't forget these other teams breaking the bank (Browns for Watson, Broncos for Wilson) only to really wish they hadn't. Let's not be like those teams. This is a strange take. I can see the Broncos regretting the Wilson deal, but why are you making stuff up about Watson and the Browns? Any big contract in football is risky because of injury (see Murray/Arizona, but you conveniently forget the teams like the Bills and Chiefs who ensured long term success by signing Mahomes and Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, pointman said: He is 25! His injury history (according to some no name site I just googled) said he has had 4 injuries and nothing exceeding a "sprain". He has shown up when he has had to. Right now he is holding out because he has no deal in place. Missing practice (insert Iverson quote here) but is apparently ready to roll in game time. We don't know for sure what his tag will be, but I think it needs serious consideration. He could catapult us to serious contender even with all our shortcomings. With how far we have been from competitive, I don't think we are in any place to simply say "no" based on money that is neither yours or mine to spend. Let the cap guys that are paid handsomely worry about that. He’s a 25 year old QB with 727(!) rushing attempts already. He averages over 10 rushing attempts per game for his career. That’s not going to last. Let the ravens give him 40 mill per year (don’t you think it’s interesting that they are dragging their feet? I wonder why?) pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Absolutely nothing. Would be the worst move the Jets have ever made. Holy hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, slimjasi said: He’s a 25 year old QB with 727(!) rushing attempts already. He averages over 10 rushing attempts per game for his career. That’s not going to last. Let the ravens give him 40 mill per year (don’t you think it’s interesting that they are dragging their feet? I wonder why?) pass He has avoided serious injury and will adjust as he ages. at 25, I'd roll the dice because he is still elite at a position where we have been obsolete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I believe they call it “the farm”. Yeah. That. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, pointman said: He has avoided serious injury and will adjust as he ages. at 25, I'd roll the dice because he is still elite at a position where we have been obsolete. Fair. I’d need to see him adjust his game before I gave him the bag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Fair. I’d need to see him adjust his game before I gave him the bag. Maybe pay him then let him adjust as he goes. Guys this talented don't come on the market often. Shoot, I doubt we even get a shot to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Could you imagine the run game we'd have with him and Breece Hall? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Lamar Jackson is a Super Bowl caliber QB. Whatever it comes to I’d be able to live with it. I can absolutely see him winning a championship one day. He’s also incredibly fun to watch - sign me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Are we also signing an offensive coordinator who will build the scheme for his talent? Shoot. That’s not good. Pretty much puts him in the no category Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 What kind of backup do you want for a young future HoF QB? Seems expensive for a QB2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Back to back years where he sustained seemingly minor injuries that ended up costing him big games down the stretch when the team thought he could have come back earlier. Maybe he's just forcing his way out of town but it's not a great look for a franchise QB. With that said, he'll make this team a super bowl contender immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I’d trade Berrios and a conditional 7th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, JetsFanNick12 said: It really seems like his time in Baltimore is up in the air. Assuming they tag him. What would you be willing to trade? Have to think a 23/24 first is the starting point. They will want 3 first rounders for him to start. There is no way he is going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, undertow said: Elijah Moore, Zach Wilson, Becton and a 1st. lol Corey Davis, Carl Lawson, Zach Wilson, Jeff Smith and a 5th lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Stark said: Corey Davis, Carl Lawson, Zach Wilson, Jeff Smith and a 5th lol Why you doing Jeff Smith dirty like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltflo Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I’m torn, he would be a solid starter behind a rebuilt O line, but at what cost to the Jets long term plans I’m thinking Jimmy G or D Carr for two years. Then draft a young talented QB in the lower rounds who can sit for 2 years and learn. If the Jets are serious about trying to reset Zack and there is a chance he could actually progress and become what we thought he was when we drafted him, it would be a win, win. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I would not trade serious draft capital, nor mortgage the franchise for him. He is coming into his second contract and his drafting team is going to let him get away? https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-qb-lamar-jackson-turned-down-contract-larger-than-russell-wilson-s-in-key Hard Pass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, undertow said: Why you doing Jeff Smith dirty like that? oh, our special team ace? lol... not dirty keeping him in a job I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 What would you trade for Lamar... maybe a partially eaten ham sandwich... just maybe though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Ravens aren't trading him, and I'm not really that interested in gutting this franchise like Denver did for Russell Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Are we also signing an offensive coordinator who will build the scheme for his talent? The injuries are such a big concern. He takes a ton of hits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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