rtnelson Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 This thread is spicy. Good to see it didn't take us long to get in mid off-season form around here. Well done boys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Kids like to say stuff. When was the last time you heard a player say, “yeah, my knee is really fu**ed up. It feels like limp noodles are holding me together right now… I’m gonna be out a while.” Don’t know but I’ve heard lots of players say, I don’t know or I’m hopeful to be ready for camp. There’s always the tried and true I’m on schedule, following our timeline, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: He’s worse because his failing is why Salehs team went from 6-3 to 7-9. That’s on LaFleur. He had one job, offense and by anyone’s matric the offense went in the toilet and dragged the team down with them. Everyone repeats over and over if Zach could have scored a TD against the Pats, if White could have converted one of those 5 FGs in Minny, no TDS in 3 straight games, blah, blah, blah. Last year you blamed Saleh for the D. Now it’s suddenly not on MLF. Yeah, everything is on LaFleur. Okay, so then everything will be fine now, it was all on LaFleur, huh? We’re in good hands now with Douglas and Saleh, am I reading you correctly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Kids like to say stuff. When was the last time you heard a player say, “yeah, my knee is really fu**ed up. It feels like limp noodles are holding me together right now… I’m gonna be out a while.” ok ur right will take 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, BCJet said: Brian Johnson is a really interesting name. QB Coach for the last 2 seasons in Phila, clearly helping to develop Hurts. Was Florida OC for 3 seasons so he has experience calling plays. Interviewed for the Packers OC job last off-season. Phila has created a true "multiple" offense since Siriani took over. They use RPO and both inside and outside zone rushing concepts with air raid passing principles. The other interesting thing to me here is that he could bring Minshew with him. I know the board doesnt love Minshew, but there would be continuity year over year schematically and he clearly has an idea of what minshew strengths and weaknesses are and can work with that. The potential hang up is that their OC Shane Steichen is up for HC opportunities so its possible Johnson waits it out and becomes the Eagles OC. He's my pick out of the young guys.... Worse case scenario he holds the seat warm for Steichen in 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 CAN WE ALL ADMIT ONE THING.... Yes MFL sucked, def down the stretch of this year BUT ZACH WILSON got this guy fired 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Ghost said: Some of you are ridiculous. ??? Most 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Okay, so then everything will be fine now, it was all on LaFleur, huh? We’re in good hands now with Douglas and Saleh, am I reading you correctly? You gathered this how exactly? But you know what, yes, I like JD and Saleh. Could care less if you disagree. All of this because you don’t think MLF was the main problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I would have been fine either way. Hopefully we can build a quality offensive staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Don’t know but I’ve heard lots of players say, I don’t know or I’m hopeful to be ready for camp. There’s always the tried and true I’m on schedule, following our timeline, etc He’s a hungry young player. That’s it. He’ll play when the Jet doctors clear him. As we saw this year w/MW, it will likely be grossly mismanaged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 [/url] Playing Wilson puts us back in “Welcome Sweet Prince” tankathon by Halloween Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: So to recap 1. LaFleur is the only coordinator worth a damn on this staff. Somebody’s going to hire him off Salehs staff 2. The offense is not on LaFleur, Mike Whites a god in this system 3. LaFleur sucks 4. No QB will ever come to work under MLF 5. He only got the job because he’s Salehs best friend 6. He has to be fired. Now 7. But Saleh will never fire his friends little brother 8. Saleh didn’t fire him hard enough. 9. No one worth a damn will take the OC job 10. Let’s welcome the loser they’re sure to hire. This was really good, lol.? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: ok ur right will take 2 years No, you are. He told you he’d be back 100% for TC. I’m just a schmoe giving my opinion on a message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Be_a_Jet said: Stupidity once again. Getting rid of a talent. This helps Lafleur more than it helps us. He’ll have an OC job in two seconds and we’ll have slim pickings. Moronic Talent ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, jgb said: It has begun. This regime is now swirling in the bowl. Only a slam dunk QB acquisition can save the rest. Zach wilson will get everyone fired 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Not surprisingly, it’s sounding like the call to fire LaFleur was made by Douglas and/or Woody. What a ******* disaster 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Can both be true? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smashmouth Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: Good for you, Mike LaFleur. Save yourself. So Flacco Sucked Wilson Sucked and the offense under MW averaged around 400 YPG and somehow this is on Mike LeFleur. This has Jets written all over it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Yep. Joe Douglas wants Zach to be the starting QB next year. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Can both be true? Yes.... But it seems the FO and Coaches are in an internal battle on who is to blame.... Daddy Warbacks aka Woody is asking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Green Ghost said: Yep. Joe Douglas wants Zach to be the starting QB next year. I'm sure this will go over swell with the fan base. I think hes a cocky a$$hole but is he really that dumb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Not surprisingly, it’s sounding like the call to fire LaFleur was made by Douglas and/or Woody. What a ******* disaster Pssst… it wasn’t Woody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: No, you are. He told you he’d be back 100% for TC. I’m just a schmoe giving my opinion on a message board. Cool cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Ultimately, I believe Lafleur was given a raw deal. Wilson is just not a good QB and nothing I've seen over the last two years will change my opinion of that. Between that and the injuries on offense this year, what exactly did you expect Lafleur to do? Bill Walsh wouldn't have done much better. Lafleur has a MUCH better shot at becoming a good OC and above elsewhere than Wilson ever does at being a good QB, imo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Not surprisingly, it’s sounding like the call to fire LaFleur was made by Douglas and/or Woody. What a ******* disaster JD 100% He doesn’t want the “Zach sucks” reality attached to him. As is always the case in Jets land, we’ve hired first-timers, most of whom will be exposed as over-promoted, and now within 2 months everyone is functioning with self-preservation at the heart of their strategy. Woody has been doing this for decades. It’s the only thing he knows… everyone working the back channels and optics angles, not the actual job performance. The epitome of American politics in business. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Can both be true? I'm not sure both can be true but when you have coaches saying the QB savior was the problem then at some point you have to listen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I'm sure this will go over swell with the fan base. I think hes a cocky a$$hole but is he really that dumb? Zach is his signature pick. He’s not giving up on him after two years, and was probably furious when Saleh sat him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: 1) GM drafts sh-tty QB #2 overall 2) Shi-ty #2 overall QB plays like sh-t 3) Owner demands pound of flesh 4) GM directs HC to fire OC How was the offense in 4 of the last 6 games Zach didn’t play ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: CAN WE ALL ADMIT ONE THING.... Yes MFL sucked, def down the stretch of this year BUT ZACH WILSON got this guy fired Garett Wilson had an assist with his public comments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Not surprisingly, it’s sounding like the call to fire LaFleur was made by Douglas and/or Woody. What a ******* disaster Meanwhile every Saleh presser is like the ‘this is fine dog’ on repeat. I think LaFleur probably lost the team by the end of the season, possibly irrevocably so, but the manner of which this has gone down portends disaster in an inevitable way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, DireJet said: I really don’t get what happened with MLF. He was wildly creative last year and showed flashes this year moving the football w/non-ZW QBs. And then he just completely shutdown over the final quarter of the season. Something must have happened bc he called the most vanilla garbage I’ve ever seen. We’ll find out eventually. Last season the Jets offense was really boring and ineffective until the Jets got eliminated and they had nothing to lose. Then LaFleur’s playcalling suddenly became creative. I expected something of the sort in the Miami game but it just didn’t happen. I think MLF’s big problem was that he was too conservative and unwilling to try something interesting if there was something to lose. It backfired. Without Breece Hall to bail the offense out there was nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: I'm not sure both can be true but when you have coaches saying the QB savior was the problem then at some point you have to listen They can. He sucks, but MLF def didn’t help. Zack got worse. Good riddance to both, I hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I really like Joe Douglass I think he did a great job building this team into a contender which was evidenced by a 6-3 start and beating Buffalo before half the OL was injured along with one of the best young backs in the game. He got dealt a bad hand and every single Jets fan should be used to this sh*t. However, if JD wants to ride and die with Wilson I'm 100 % not in favor of that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Regardless of whether Zach had potential or not how do you trust in them again on another QB especially one picked much later than #2 as that ship has sailed unless trade everything to move up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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