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[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I'm convinced I'm watching a different Zach Wilson than the rest of you guys (except Dunnie).  

I’m convinced you don’t watch non-Jets games and have the lowest possible standards for QBs.

[Integrity28]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Counterpoint: Bart is a moron

Haha, exactly.

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Nah.  Chiefs game was decidedly better.

If this was his 3rd or 4th best game as a pro that’s just putrid.  But we already knew that.  

The Chiefs game was more about the Chiefs treating it like a preseason game

[Lurker89]

3 minutes ago, Jolot said:

He’s going 2nd 

Soooo Drake then... nope he goes third and everyone is gone by our pick yayyyy!!!

I wouldnt mind Quinn. ... will also be gone

[Smashmouth]

1 minute ago, Rangers9 said:

Raiders made better adjustments in 2nd half. Jets O was flat until end of game. Looked like Zach pick could have been negated if Lazard had made a play. 

No the Lazard play was on Zach he never looked off the Receiver and Spillaine read it all the way. No way to even spin this and blame Lazard who never saw the guy 

[Matt39]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Is it weird that I feel like this is Zach Wilson’s third best game as a Jet? First was the comeback against the Steelers, second was the Titans game as a rookie, and then this one. I pin this loss on the Raiders having that new coach juju and the Jets being on the cusp of an injury/fatigue-related spiral. Both Breece and Garrett look like they could use a month locked in a hyperbaric chamber. 

More or less. Wilson still has yet to have a really good game as a pro. It’s unreal that he’s still playing.

[Sonny Werblin]

Why don’t we try to get the ball to Hall in space?

Why no RPO?

Why would you ever throw the ball to Lazard?

Why does our D sometimes look totally overmatched in the run game?

Why did Hackett curl up in a ball with a 9-3 lead rather than put pressure on a Raider’s D that hadn’t stopped the Jets O?

Why does our Offense consistently commit bonehead penalties on crucial plays?

Why do our cover teams fail us at crucial times of the game?

Why are our WRs and TEs unaware that when you wrap your arms around a defender like you are hugging him, you will be called for holding?

Why doesn’t Saleh understand how to call a Timeout?

Why do i remain a fan of this “gang that can’t shoot straight” perpetual butt the joke team?

 

[Barry McCockinner]

I know it was the coaches and oline and WRs and RBs fault but Zach Wilson's only TD pass in the last 5 weeks was a 5 yard dump off to breece.

Would it really hurt to try another QB? Consider it an experiment.

I don't think it's possible for the offense to be much less effective. 

[Integrity28]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

I’m convinced you don’t watch non-Jets games.  

100%

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, T0mShane said:

The Chiefs game was more about the Chiefs treating it like a preseason game

Sure but Zach threw receivers open on 2-3 occasions.  I’d never seen him do that before or since.  

[shawn306]

People wanna kill Zach fine. QB gets all the glory and gets all the blame. They are putrid right now. Gotta to find a way to score TD’s. 
 

The OL stinks. The penalties are a joke right now, The WR’s not named Garett Wilson sucks, and Zach, while I thought was ok tonight, still not good enough. 
 

Looks like Rangers hockey from here on out

[Prodigal Syndicate]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Yes Zach held onto the ball too long there and it almost cost us the game but how come nobody questions the WRs not getting open?  The WRs behind GW are worse than dog sh-t.  

Because our GM put together an awful WR room and Lazard is a #4 WR.

We don't even have a slot WR.

[neckdemon]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Counterpoint: Bart is a moron

Seriously. Bart could stfu

[Greg555]

The finger from many fans here will continue to be pointed at ZW..but smart football fans know this loss isn’t just on him.  Our OL is weak, we don’t have any semblance of a WR2..and the play calling from our OC is very questionable.

But, have at it..ZW haters.  

[ausman]

4 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

Oh STFU. Everyone in the stadium knew whe where that ball was going. 

Lazard sat down in the middle of the field!  You come back to the ball!  Even a Pop Warner player knows that.  Yes, the LB saw what Lazard did all game and made a play. But that was all on Lazard, not ZW.

[Hit Cartel]

Just now, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

Calm down. We scored a td 3 weeks ago. If we scored a td every game you would be spoiled and wouldn’t appreciate them 

Good point. Absence does makes the heart grow fonder and the balls bluer.

[sourceworx]

3 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Zach had a decent game.

This is such an undisciplined team. They make mistakes and commit penalties at the most inopportune times. Saleh holds nobody accountable.

Oh please. That Mormon f*cktard has ruined another year for us.

I'll kiss the floor when that motherf*cker is off the team.

[Ecuadorian Jet]

21 minutes ago, K Clue said:

Saleh is an absolute moron when it comes to clock management…

"All gas no break"

[shawn306]

4 minutes ago, ausman said:

Just what I said and got pilloried by the morons here.  ZW is not a good QB, but he played well enough to win.  He didn’t hold on the TD. He didn’t drop passes.  But Lazard especially gave up on a TD route.  He failed to come back to the ball on the INT.  Garrett who otherwise was great, failed to pull in a TD pass that hit him in the hands and flubbed a flea flicker pass that also would’ve been a TD.  And penalties!  Geez.

Still gotta get in end zone. End of story. 

[Hex]

Just now, sourceworx said:

Oh please. That Mormon f*cktard has ruined another year for us.

I'll kiss the floor when that motherf*cker is off the team.

What's the point of bringing his religion into this? That's just toxic.

[Integrity28]

Just now, neckdemon said:

Seriously. Bart could stfu

Bart Scott is one if the longest running jokes played on the Jets in the past 20 years.

[LIJetsFan]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Is it weird that I feel like this is Zach Wilson’s third best game as a Jet? First was the comeback against the Steelers, second was the Titans game as a rookie, and then this one. I pin this loss on the Raiders having that new coach juju and the Jets being on the cusp of an injury/fatigue-related spiral. Both Breece and Garrett look like they could use a month locked in a hyperbaric chamber. 

con·trar·i·an: opposing or rejecting popular opinion; going against current practice.

"the comment came more from a contrarian disposition than moral conviction"

[Integrity28]

1 minute ago, ausman said:

Lazard sat down in the middle of the field!  You come back to the ball!  Even a Pop Warner player knows that.  Yes, the LB saw what Lazard did all game and made a play. But that was all on Lazard, not ZW.

[rtnelson]

I said it last week and I'll say it again.  The OFFENSE is NOT good.  And Zach is not good enough to lift them up through all the penalties and dropped balls and 2 freaking yards a carry against the worst run D in football.

An average middle of the pack QB is NOT making this offense look good.

I'm sick of all the posts treating Zach like a pinata when there is plenty of beatings that need to go around.

If Zach doesn't throw that ball to Lazard where it got picked, he takes a sack and ya'll are beating him up for that.  Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.  That's the point.

Can we please admit this offense stinks?  Instead of just beating a dead horse that Zach is somehow worse than every QB that's ever lived?

[TuscanyTile2]

1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

Because our GM put together an awful WR room and Lazard is a #4 WR.

We don't even have a slot WR.

I was going to post this as well but then I remembered a lot probably had to do with getting AR8 to agree to come here.  

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Greg555 said:

The finger from many fans here will continue to be pointed at ZW..but smart football fans know this loss isn’t just on him.  Our OL is weak, we don’t have any semblance of a WR2..and the play calling from our OC is very questionable.

But, have at it..ZW haters.  

I’m just gonna paste this post all week:

 

You loser Zach apologists will make every excuse in the book this week.

The truth of the matter:

* Still no TDs since the Giants game, and nearly 50 straight possessions starting in our own territory without a TD

* Can’t assume we’d automatically have gotten a TD or 2 if not for the refs

* Another awful statline tonight (23-39, 59 %, 263 yds, inexcusable INT, fumble)

* 4-5 (you guys want to credit him with the Ws have to eat the Ls too)

[sourceworx]

Just now, Hex said:

What's the point of bringing his religion into this? That's just toxic.

Ok let me rephrase:

That pasty-faced cocksucker ruined another year for us.

[TuscanyTile2]

4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I’m just gonna paste this post all week:

 

 

You loser Zach apologists will make every excuse in the book this week.

The truth of the matter:

* Still no TDs since the Giants game, and nearly 50 straight possessions starting in our own territory without a TD

* Can’t assume we’d automatically have gotten a TD or 2 if not for the refs

* Another awful statline tonight (23-39, 59 %, 263 yds, inexcusable INT, fumble)

* 4-5 (you guys want to credit him with the Ws have to eat the Ls too)

You do understand that football is a team sport?

[Dunnie]

More or less. Wilson still has yet to have a really good game as a pro. It’s unreal that he’s still playing.

Tonight was his 3rd best game ... Played really well ...

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[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Zach has such poor situational awareness 

Why is he throwing a 5 yard checkdown to Conk with 40s left having to go 65 yards for the TD??

If you’re gonna throw it over the middle it has to be for a chunk gain and then line up quick for a spike 

That play bled like 20s off the clock 

[JetsYanks13]

The finger from many fans here will continue to be pointed at ZW..but smart football fans know this loss isn’t just on him.  Our OL is weak, we don’t have any semblance of a WR2..and the play calling from our OC is very questionable.
But, have at it..ZW haters.  

Most posters of this board don’t know the first thing about the sport. They want everyone fired, everyone cut.


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[TheAustrian]

Just now, rtnelson said:

I said it last week and I'll say it again.  The OFFENSE is NOT good.  And Zach is not good enough to lift them up through all the penalties and dropped balls.

An average middle of the pack QB is NOT making this offense look good.

I'm sick of all the posts treating Zach like a pinata when there is plenty of beatings that need to go around.

If Zach doesn't throw that ball to Lazard where it got picked, he takes a sack and ya'll are beating him up for that.  Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.  That's the point.

you can throw the ball out of bounds - but I guess you never heard of it because with Wilson its only Sack, Fumble or Int

[Hit Cartel]

We as a franchise, should ask the NFL to increase the point values of the FGs. 

[playtowinthegame]

Most penalties (43) in the NFL in the last 5 games. No touchdowns in the last 3 games. 8 touchdowns in 9 games. Worst quarterback in the nation. This is the Greatest sh*tshow on Earth. 

[Jetsplayer21]

3 minutes ago, ausman said:

Just what I said and got pilloried by the morons here.  ZW is not a good QB, but he played well enough to win.  He didn’t hold on the TD. He didn’t drop passes.  But Lazard especially gave up on a TD route.  He failed to come back to the ball on the INT.  Garrett who otherwise was great, failed to pull in a TD pass that hit him in the hands and flubbed a flea flicker pass that also would’ve been a TD.  And penalties!  Geez.

Just because he played better than his usual worst in the NFL self, doesn’t mean that statement is true. Certainly isn’t all on him, but he is just as bad if not worse than anyone else on team. He certainly never won a game for the jets. Which is what you see almost all qbs do for their team time to time. Be the deciding factor in a win. Zach cannot claim that in 3 years. It’s always been the D and sometimes running game deciding jet wins.