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While there have been some low level rumblings among fans and media regarding the respective futures of Jets GM Joe Douglas and head coach Robert Saleh, it’s now being reported that the pair are safe for next season.  This, according to NFL insider Ian Rapoport.

#Jets set for do-over in 2024.

Sources say there is no indication owner Woody Johnson will make a change, a sign that coach Robert Saleh and GM Joe Douglas will be back.

My story: https://t.co/Utkp0OrhbGhttps://t.co/Utkp0OrhbG

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 23, 2023

While the decision will be unpopular among Jets fans who are fed up with the team’s 13-year playoff drought, it was the right thing to do.

When Douglas and Saleh came on board, the realistic expectation was that the pair would need 2-3 years to build a competitive roster.  And in fact, 2-3 years was a bit ambitious in considering the fact that Joe Douglas was brought on board after the NFL draft and free agency, meaning he didn’t actually get to do his job until 2020.

Since that 2020 offseason, Douglas took a team that was easily bottom 3 in the NFL, to a team whose Super Bowl odds were in the top ten before the 2023 season kicked off.  In fact, the Jets had the seventh best Super Bowl odds to start this season.  Over the previous few seasons, they were consistently in the 100-1 range at the bottom of the league.

Then, as we all know, superstar quarterback Aaron Rodgers went down with a season-ending injury which realistically ended any and all hopes of the Jets doing any damage this year.

For owner Woody Johnson, this is what he had to consider in deciding whether or not his GM would return.  Were the Jets going to be picking in the top 10 this year because Douglas had failed to identify and acquire talented football players, or did he did just that, only to be derailed by a myriad of injuries that started with Rodgers?

The answer of course was the latter, and Johnson undoubtedly had that in mind when he decided to stick with Douglas.

Had Rogers stayed healthy along with star lineman Alijah Vera-Tucker and starting center Connor McGovern, this season likely goes in a far different direction.  But instead, the Jets have used 14 different offensive linemen, six different starters at right guard alone, and are about to start their fourth quarterback this season.

Those circumstances are easily overcome in your favorite NFL video game, but that’s just not the case in real life.

Douglas now gets another offseason to build around Rodgers and improve the team’s offensive line through free agency and the draft.  Robert Saleh will then get another chance to show what he and his coaching staff can do with that hopefully improved line and QB play.

If Jets fans aren’t looking forward to a playoff appearance just over a year from today, it’ll be time for Woody Johnson to make another decision regarding both Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh once again.

 

 

 

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I disagree but that matters not at all. Jow Douglas has failed to build any semblance of a functional offense. And Saleh has failed to coach any semblance of a functional offense. Sure the defense is pretty good, but not elite. It's good due to the players, it's not elite due to the sub-par scheme being employed that makes it a bad run defense, and despite a plethora of good pass rushers, only middle of the road in sacks. The offense is simply broken, and that's not just because Rodgers got hurt. The o-line is disgustingly bad, and besides Hall and Garrett we have almost zero offensive talent besides Rodgers. The offense isn't only just bad, it's historically one of the worst ever. Douglas has been here too long to not take the blame for that, and Saleh as well. Get rid of them both, they are not very good at the jobs they have

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Why didn't a team like Cleveland who has had as many injuries as the Jets have and are on their 4th QB quit when they had as much of an excuse as the Jets have. Stability just for the sake of stability is really stupid when the GM and coach have shown themselves to be completely incompetent.

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1 minute ago, Pennington said:

Why didn't a team like Cleveland who has had as many injuries as the Jets have and are on their 4th QB quit when they had as much of an excuse as the Jets have. Stability just for the sake of stability is really stupid when the GM and coach have shown themselves to be completely incompetent.

Who cares.  They are going nowhere w/ Flaccid at qb.  He threw 3 picks against the lowly bears.

Jet fans are using a team that going nowhere as an example of what we should do.  You cant make this up.

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1 minute ago, Pennington said:

Why didn't a team like Cleveland who has had as many injuries as the Jets have and are on their 4th QB quit when they had as much of an excuse as the Jets have. Stability just for the sake of stability is really stupid when the GM and coach have shown themselves to be completely incompetent.

The only player that looked like he quit to me last week was Becton, the rest of the O line just isnt good.  The Jets really didnt want Becton anymore they were just stuck with him this year imho.

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2 minutes ago, jetswin said:

The only player that looked like he quit to me last week was Becton, the rest of the O line just isnt good.  The Jets really didnt want Becton anymore they were just stuck with him this year imho.

Well, now becton is free to become morbidly obese again after the season. Just being regular obese this year didn’t work. 

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12 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Very excited for Week 1 next year when the team unveils a banner that says “2023: Our Super Bowl Odds Were In The Top Ten Before The Season Kicked Off” 

And Bobby salad in the pre-season “They gotta play us too” and.. “we embarrassed QBs” just stfu Bobby 

The Jets have absolutely no shame. The entire organization should be ashamed of themselves. But the sad part is they aren’t 

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To respond to some points below:

  • The Jets did make a 2 year commitment to JD, Saleh, Hackett and Rodgers. Year 3 is an option year.  I think 2024 is the last year under contract for JD and Saleh.  Watch if they get any type of extension or Woody waits until mid-season.   It would be the classic Woody move to save money to let them work out the terms of their contracts.
  • JD is going to have to figure out how to find the right players with the staff that he has been given to use.   Many are long term functionaries with families and mortgages that are tough to move out, both financially and morally.   Saleh is going to need to figure out how to get better OL coaching out of Keith Carter, because he will be hard to replace in Saleh’s lame duck year.  The answer to both of these questions is for Woody to spend more money on “supplemental” people who basically to the jobs of the people who can’t.
  • JD and Saleh are going to have to figure out how to get better support out of the strength, training and medical staff.  I hear from my own sources that the current doctors are both cheap and under contract, so Woody was waiting for their contract to expire.  All of these decisions are based on $ and not creating an excellent football organization.  The results show on the field. 
  • Jim Harbaugh is probably the next Parcells, good qualities and bad qualities.    if Woody could get him in the door, he should do that and just clean house.  With one year left on their contracts, they are at the natural spot to replace.  It’s not like firing Nate Hackett as HC with 3-4 years left on his contract.   That is the other little dirty secret of Nate Hackett as OC-he is basically free-the Broncos pay most of his comp.  
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34 minutes ago, neckdemon said:

I disagree but that matters not at all. Jow Douglas has failed to build any semblance of a functional offense. And Saleh has failed to coach any semblance of a functional offense. Sure the defense is pretty good, but not elite. It's good due to the players, it's not elite due to the sub-par scheme being employed that makes it a bad run defense, and despite a plethora of good pass rushers, only middle of the road in sacks. The offense is simply broken, and that's not just because Rodgers got hurt. The o-line is disgustingly bad, and besides Hall and Garrett we have almost zero offensive talent besides Rodgers. The offense isn't only just bad, it's historically one of the worst ever. Douglas has been here too long to not take the blame for that, and Saleh as well. Get rid of them both, they are not very good at the jobs they have

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 The bolded line below is the key sentence of he article and the sentence that the jets fall back on.   It is also the sentence that makes the article and the way the Jets handled this year utter bullsh*t.

"Then, as we all know, superstar quarterback Aaron Rodgers went down with a season-ending injury which realistically ended any and all hopes of the Jets doing any damage this year."

The NFL is littered with stories of teams starters going down and backups getting them into the playoffs or winning the super bowl.  Those teams had a plan B, those teams actually as an organization tried to win, those teams shook it of and got the best out of the rest of the year.  Hell even this year we have teams losing their starters fighting to the grave to make the playoffs and not rolling over.

Rodgers got hurt?   Fine bad break maybe we are not winning this year but now lets put that issue to the side and look at everything else with this team in the coaching and GM department.    A horrible bag of fail.

The coach were always coming back due to the whole Rodgers scenario.    Their performance this year in their jobs?   They both 100% totally deserved to be fired.

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1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

That's an awfully confident statement by @JetNation. 

Who actually writes for this account, btw?   I'm assuming it's not @Maxman.  Though I do wonder if he has to agree with these views in order for it to get written under that account.

Reveal yourself, @JetNation!

It doesnt carry the author name over to the forums. On the front page it has the author name.

This one was Glenn I believe.

What we have always done here on the front page is file things in categories. Jets news really doesn't have opinions.

Featured editorial the writers can have at it. It is their name on it.

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The only options were “run it back” and “blow it all up” and neither were good choices.  Doesn’t make the former option “getting it right”.  More like “trying to start over with Rodgers here proved difficult/impossible”.  

Division title and/or deep playoff run next year or GTFO.

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5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Yes they did.  You made a multi year committment to Aaron Rodgers.  You need to see it through w this regime.

Post UK Woody is one of the top owners in the league.  He is making all the right decisions.

Glazer ranked him #3 as far as top meddling owners FYI

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20 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The only options were “run it back” and “blow it all up” and neither were good choices.  Doesn’t make the former option “getting it right”.  More like “trying to start over with Rodgers here proved difficult/impossible”.  

Division title and/or deep playoff run next year or GTFO.

Now heres the spirit.  Division title, deep playoff run.  You are feeling it buddy.

See you in August when we are all talking super bowl.

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31 minutes ago, faba said:

No not the right decision-offensive eline is a disaster. Other teams are competitive and making playoffs with back up QB's oh look at Browns =Flacco could have and should have been our veteran back up

Browns lost a QB, their pro bowl running back, and 2 O Tackles.

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