detectivekimble Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: No, it's one that's based on much more advanced analysis. It's not the All Pro team that's recognized by the NFL or Pro Football Hall of Fame. So no, Sheldon Richardson has never been an All Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, detectivekimble said: It's not the All Pro team that's recognized by the NFL or Pro Football Hall of Fame. So no, Sheldon Richardson has never been an All Pro. Yeah.... this is a waste of my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Please not another Favre move. If he plays next year he will probably go to Denver. He'll be in a wheelchair before the Jets are rebuilt anyway. He would want to go to a win now team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Klecko73isGod said: Yeah.... this is a waste of my time. Where's the Jets press release saying Richardson has been named an All Pro? Do you think they'd shaft one of their players like that? Maybe you're confusing Richardson with Wilkerson, who has, in fact, been named an All Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 52 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Realistic trade. Dallas has an interest in Richardson. Richardson has no future in NY. Romo has no future in Dallas. Both guys are one hit away from being out of football. The Jets aren't getting a high draft pick for Richardson. Bowles and Mac may not survive another stinker and need a QB. Bad trade? Good trade? Bad trade. AT WORST, the Jets can hold on to Richardson and get contract year effort out of him in 2017, let him walk and get a comp pick. AT WORST. They can also tag him if they want. Not sure they would want to do that. A trade for draft pick is better than bringing in Romo, his broken down body and his salary. Playing Hack, Petty and a vet like Hoyer is better than bringing in Romo, his broken down body and his salary. Also, Dallas will not shaft Romo if he does not want to go to the Jets- and believe me, he won't. Jerry J. loves him and will trade him to a team he actually wants to go to and will be willing to take a pay cut on...say Broncos for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, PepPep said: Bad trade. AT WORST, the Jets can hold on to Richardson and get contract year effort out of him in 2017, let him walk and get a comp pick. AT WORST. They can also tag him if they want. Not sure they would want to do that. A trade for draft pick is better than bringing in Romo, his broken down body and his salary. Playing Hack, Petty and a vet like Hoyer is better than bringing in Romo, his broken down body and his salary. Also, Dallas will not shaft Romo if he does not want to go to the Jets- and believe me, he won't. Jerry J. loves him and will trade him to a team he actually wants to go to and will be willing to take a pay cut on...say Broncos for example. From the Jets standpoint, that is the perfect answer. We have a winner, folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, PepPep said: Bad trade. AT WORST, the Jets can hold on to Richardson and get contract year effort out of him in 2017, let him walk and get a comp pick. AT WORST. They can also tag him if they want. Not sure they would want to do that. A trade for draft pick is better than bringing in Romo, his broken down body and his salary. Playing Hack, Petty and a vet like Hoyer is better than bringing in Romo, his broken down body and his salary. Also, Dallas will not shaft Romo if he does not want to go to the Jets- and believe me, he won't. Jerry J. loves him and will trade him to a team he actually wants to go to and will be willing to take a pay cut on...say Broncos for example. I don't think it was Richardson was not putting forth effort this year or last. He was misused. I don't think that changes next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, section314 said: From the Jets standpoint, that is the perfect answer. We have a winner, folks! Maybe, but they're going to try to move him this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, detectivekimble said: Maybe, but they're going to try to move him this offseason. I agree, but like PepPep said above, the worst the Jets could do if they don't get a deal they like is a 4th, maybe even a 3rd, if they lose him to FA. Like I said in one of the Glennon posts, I really think Tampa used this tactic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Can we trade Wilkerson instead? Both are big cap hits, and they both played the same amount of plays last year giving 100% effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, detectivekimble said: Realistic trade. Dallas has an interest in Richardson. Richardson has no future in NY. Romo has no future in Dallas. Both guys are one hit away from being out of football. The Jets aren't getting a high draft pick for Richardson. Bowles and Mac may not survive another stinker and need a QB. Bad trade? Good trade? Nothing for Romo. He is an old dome/ warm weather QB on his 3rd collarbone and 3rd back surgery. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, detectivekimble said: Realistic trade. Dallas has an interest in Richardson. Richardson has no future in NY. Romo has no future in Dallas. Both guys are one hit away from being out of football. The Jets aren't getting a high draft pick for Richardson. Bowles and Mac may not survive another stinker and need a QB. Bad trade? Good trade? I think the trade is fair but........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Romo is literally the worst possible QB option for the Jets IMO and I don't want him anywhere near this team. I'll keep saying it until the end of time - no more veteran QB placeholders!!! The team stinks!!! There's no need to sign a veteran so we can win 6 games instead of 4. Develop the QB's we have or draft another QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 NO ROMO. His 14 Million contract is guaranteed once he is on the opening day roster, and based on recent history the guy will not finish the first game he starts. He has always been overrated and now he just old and broken down and has hardly played in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, jetsfansince7 said: Romo will not be motivated to play here. He will spend more time under barrage from the media than he will do helping this team. He should retire, we should find a top 10 QB 1. Cowboys have plenty of media following. 2. He's not retiring. 3. Top 10 QBs have flooded the FA...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfansince7 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I Italy forgot that Dallas has a media microscope. Scrap that thought. I'd love to see him here just don't want it to dilute the effort to find the long term solution. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The pats have helped set the market for this kind of thing, unfortunately for us. They gave away both Chandler Jones and Collins for peanuts. We re not getting anything big for Shelrich. If we got a 3rd and another late rounder it would be doing really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The pats have helped set the market for this kind of thing, unfortunately for us. They gave away both Chandler Jones and Collins for peanuts. We re not getting anything big for Shelrich. If we got a 3rd and another late rounder it would be doing really well. Too bad we cant negotiate like NE want to play for a winner you will take this money or we will trade or cut you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Terrible trade even if we just got Romo. Add his cap hit and one final bad decision that will cost Macc and Bowles their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Realistic trade. Dallas has an interest in Richardson. Richardson has no future in NY. Romo has no future in Dallas. Both guys are one hit away from being out of football. The Jets aren't getting a high draft pick for Richardson. Bowles and Mac may not survive another stinker and need a QB. Bad trade? Good trade? Comes down to who gets screwed more in the end because both teams will get screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Really like them to trade with Dallas for Ron Leary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 romo has won 1 playoff game and he's pushing 40 child please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Realistic trade. Dallas has an interest in Richardson. Richardson has no future in NY. Romo has no future in Dallas. Both guys are one hit away from being out of football. The Jets aren't getting a high draft pick for Richardson. Bowles and Mac may not survive another stinker and need a QB. Bad trade? Good trade? at first glance not so good but then if you think romo is good for 3 seasons and will accept an incentive style contract it might not be such a bad deal. but romo hasn't played a full season since 2012 and the past two have been disasters. he does carry a very good qb rating though. it also depends on the real feelings the jets have towards hack and petty. Passing * Selected to Pro Bowl, + First-Team All-Pro Share & more Modify & Share Table Embed this Table Get table as CSV (for Excel) Copy Link to Table to Clipboard About Sharing Tools Glossary Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV 2004 24 DAL 9 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2005 25 DAL 9 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2006* 26 DAL QB 9 16 10 6-4-0 220 337 65.3 2903 19 5.6 13 3.9 56 8.6 8.0 13.2 181.4 95.1 66.34 21 124 7.76 7.19 5.9 2 3 12 2007* 27 DAL QB 9 16 16 13-3-0 335 520 64.4 4211 36 6.9 19 3.7 59 8.1 7.8 12.6 263.2 97.4 66.54 24 176 7.42 7.17 4.4 2 2 17 2008 28 DAL QB 9 13 13 8-5-0 276 450 61.3 3448 26 5.8 14 3.1 75 7.7 7.4 12.5 265.2 91.4 48.26 20 123 7.07 6.84 4.3 2 2 10 2009* 29 DAL QB 9 16 16 11-5-0 347 550 63.1 4483 26 4.7 9 1.6 80 8.2 8.4 12.9 280.2 97.6 58.27 34 196 7.34 7.54 5.8 3 3 14 2010 30 DAL qb 9 6 6 1-5-0 148 213 69.5 1605 11 5.2 7 3.3 69 7.5 7.1 10.8 267.5 94.9 59.36 7 41 7.11 6.68 3.2 6 2011 31 DAL QB 9 16 16 8-8-0 346 522 66.3 4184 31 5.9 10 1.9 77 8.0 8.3 12.1 261.5 102.5 66.25 36 227 7.09 7.40 6.5 4 4 13 2012 32 DAL QB 9 16 16 8-8-0 425 648 65.6 4903 28 4.3 19 2.9 85 7.6 7.1 11.5 306.4 90.5 67.8 36 263 6.78 6.35 5.3 5 5 14 2013 33 DAL QB 9 15 15 8-7-0 342 535 63.9 3828 31 5.8 10 1.9 82 7.2 7.5 11.2 255.2 96.7 58.6 35 272 6.24 6.54 6.1 2 4 13 2014* 34 DAL QB 9 15 15 12-3-0 304 435 69.9 3705 34 7.8 9 2.1 68 8.5 9.1 12.2 247.0 113.2 83.62 29 215 7.52 8.11 6.3 4 5 15 2015 35 DAL qb 9 4 4 3-1-0 83 121 68.6 884 5 4.1 7 5.8 39 7.3 5.5 10.7 221.0 79.4 55.75 6 35 6.69 4.99 4.7 1 2 2 2016 36 DAL 9 1 0 3 4 75.0 29 1 25.0 0 0.0 15 7.3 12.3 9.7 29.0 134.4 99.2 0 0 7.25 12.25 0.0 0 Career 156 127 78-49-0 2829 4335 65.3 34183 248 5.7 117 2.7 85 7.9 7.8 12.1 219.1 97.1 248 1672 7.09 7.03 5.4 25 30 116 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Might as well trade Sheldon for Tiger Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Klecko73isGod said: Value wise this is crap. A 26-year-old versatile DT who has the ability to be dominant vs. a broken down 36-year-old QB who has been out for most of the last three years with major injuries. Any GM who would propose this deal should be fired. If you trade Richardson, you use him to move up in the first round to get a franchise QB if you think one is there. Any other move would be a loss for the Jets. Yeah but both a hit away from being out of NFL. Practically twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComfortablyNumb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I have some land to sell to OP in the swamp. Prime location. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComfortablyNumb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I have some land to sell to OP in the swamp. Prime location. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 We might get a 5th or 6th round pick for Richardson, or a 4th round comp pick in 2 years if we're lucky. He's worth basically nothing on the market atm given his bad year, the leadership issues and the risk factor. GMs lose their jobs over things like that, it just wouldn't happen. Our best option is to get a years worth of value out of him, try to rehabilitate him and hope that we end up with a comp pick at the end of it (doubt it would be a 3 at this point but maybe with a good enough year someone would be dumb enough to pay him...) Now moving up 3 spots in the NFL draft (from 6 to 3) is worth about the equivalent of a first round pick (its 600 points of value or about the first pick at position 31), so yea clearly he wouldn't be anywhere near enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hael said: We might get a 5th or 6th round pick for Richardson, or a 4th round comp pick in 2 years if we're lucky. He's worth basically nothing on the market atm given his bad year, the leadership issues and the risk factor. GMs lose their jobs over things like that, it just wouldn't happen. Our best option is to get a years worth of value out of him, try to rehabilitate him and hope that we end up with a comp pick at the end of it (doubt it would be a 3 at this point but maybe with a good enough year someone would be dumb enough to pay him...) Now moving up 3 spots in the NFL draft (from 6 to 3) is worth about the equivalent of a first round pick (its 600 points of value or about the first pick at position 31), so yea clearly he wouldn't be anywhere near enough. Nope. They tried offered Wilkerson to the Titans in a deal to move up in the first round in 2015. Titans wouldn't go for it. And Wilkerson had a lot more value than Richardson does right now now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Pcola said: Terrible trade even if we just got Romo. Add his cap hit and one final bad decision that will cost Macc and Bowles their jobs. So will a repeat of 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I wouldn't give a bag of stale licorice for Tony Romo. And I hate licorice. Don't neg me, you fatties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I would trade Richardson to Dallas but would want a draft pick not Tony Romo. Think about it. Why would Romo who would probably retire if he had a ring want to play for a rebuilding franchise with a sub-par OL? The Jets would be extremely lucky to get as high as a 3rd rounder for Richardson. Take the draft pick and cut your loses. The holes on this team have to filled. FA or the draft is the way to go. Stockpiling draft picks is the smart rational move here. Trade(if that is even possible at this point) as many of these vets for draft picks or guys with expiring contracts and rebuild from the ground up. Its the only way to reestablish the credibility and get rid of the losing culture that surrounds this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 12 hours ago, detectivekimble said: What exactly do you think the value is for a DL who just put up 1.5 sacks and is one bong hit away from being banned from football? More than a QB who hasn't played in years and is one hit away from being out of football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 14 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Realistic trade. Dallas has an interest in Richardson. Richardson has no future in NY. Romo has no future in Dallas. Both guys are one hit away from being out of football. The Jets aren't getting a high draft pick for Richardson. Bowles and Mac may not survive another stinker and need a QB. Bad trade? Good trade? Nonsense. Romo's spine is made out of matchsticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 No one wants Romo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 13 hours ago, detectivekimble said: So will a repeat of 2016. Sign Glennon or Tyrod Romo is done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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