56mehl56 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 So if we do trade for Fitzpatrick, that means our needs that haven't been addressed are down to S and OLB And bonafide starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 New York Jets putting Melvin Gordon through running back drills at Wisconsin pro-day.... — Tony Pauline (@TonyPauline) March 11, 2015 Ivory, Gordon, Powell. Sickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Pretty happy with the way this off-season is developing so far. We need to improve that offensive line though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ivory, Gordon, Powell. Sickness. And when do we think we are selecting Gordon? Not at #6 and he wont be around for our pick in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Decker, Marshall, amaro, Kerley ain't shabby. Add a wr and rb in the draft and its pretty good Last year when the comparision stats were from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 And when do we think we are selecting Gordon? Not at #6 and he wont be around for our pick in the 2nd. I've seen a few mocks which have him falling to round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Pretty happy with the way this off-season is developing so far. We need to improve that offensive line though. There it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Jets had the 3rd ranked running offense and the 32nd ranked passing offense, they had enough players like Decker, harvin, kerly and amaro to at least be semi helpful to a QB. Geno simply missed too many plays when they were there and worse turned if over at the worst time. One could put up with pedestrian td and 5 numbers if the player does not throw bad ints and fumble at critical times. Fitzpatrick is no super gem at ball security either but this team just has to limit turnovers the last 5 years we have had QBing that just kills the rest if the team by ill timed pics and fumbles/ I can't believe anyone here is feeling that Fitz is a big improvement over anyone. I'm not even certain he wins a QB competition with Geno. Remember Geno and the offense were non factors partially because of the HC , sure he had lots of turnovers , but like you said Fitz had his share and if he played in the Rex/MM system I'm not so sure they wouldn't have approached Geno levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 And when do we think we are selecting Gordon? Not at #6 and he wont be around for our pick in the 2nd. To me it looks definitely like we're going to trade down. Whether it's for a pass rusher or maybe even Gordon. I don't really see a pass rusher that is miles ahead of the rest of the group, it's kind of a crapshoot. There are about 5 legit 1st round talents, nobody knows how each of them will turn out. So you might as well trade down, grab an extra 2nd round pick and then pick whoever is left late in the 1st. Or Gordon. Or one of the receivers. And so on. I don't really see the value there at 6. There's nobody really that is a must have, that we can't possibly pass on. And looking at the Eagles and Chip Kelly, he'll do everything he can to get Mariota if he's there at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revis Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 And who exactly were the Jets equivalents of Foster, Hopkins and Johnson last year . Looking simply at stats doesn't paint the full picture. Still need another RB but i'd take Decker & Marshall over Johnson + Hopkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 And when do we think we are selecting Gordon? Not at #6 and he wont be around for our pick in the 2nd. Trade down scenarios. They've got to do due diligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I can't believe anyone here is feeling that Fitz is a big improvement over anyone. I'm not even certain he wins a QB competition with Geno. Remember Geno and the offense were non factors partially because of the HC , sure he had lots of turnovers , but like you said Fitz had his share and if he played in the Rex/MM system I'm not so sure they wouldn't have approached Geno levels. The numbers don't lie. Facts are stubborn things. Fitz is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ivory, Gordon, Powell. Sickness. I like it, prefer Gurley. But would be happy with either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 So pumped. Brains under center. The team is once again prioritizing smart football. Will you be sending him your poetry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Will you be sending him your poetry? I am impressed. I pushed "Post" one time and got two submissions! Yay me! Sorry it wasn't funnier though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Parcells believes in Geno . Good listen on ESPN radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Will you be sending him your poetry? He seems like a fellow beatnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I can't believe anyone here is feeling that Fitz is a big improvement over anyone. I'm not even certain he wins a QB competition with Geno. Remember Geno and the offense were non factors partially because of the HC , sure he had lots of turnovers , but like you said Fitz had his share and if he played in the Rex/MM system I'm not so sure they wouldn't have approached Geno levels. I will counter by saying I can't believe anyone would think that Geno is a better alternative to a vet qb even with some problems. Geno has had multiple chances to show improvement. He utterly failed in that regard last year. Our low risk run 1st offense was the perfect chance for him to do so. He is a suspect, not a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny16 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Interesting: Eagles HC Chip Kelly said his team was offered a first-round pick this morning for his QB Sam Bradford. — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 11, 2015 Chip Kelly on trading up for Marcus Mariota: "Let's dispel this now. I think this stuff is crazy." — Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) March 11, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Chip just pretty much shot down any Marcus Mariota trades. As much as I think he ****ed up this week, he stood up and took all those questions and answered them with confidence. At this point, I will definitely talk to Cleveland and see how serious they are regarding moving up to #6 for either Kevin White, Cooper, or one of the LBs. I think it's time to get a dominant RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Interesting: Cleveland no doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Interesting: Nice damage control Chip but no way am I believing anybody offered a 1st for Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I've seen a few mocks which have him falling to round 2. Still not convinced about Kelly going with "glass man" I believe he intends to get marriota. He only brings in Oregon guys. at the most important position he will not be trusting some guy who'se injury prone. Cleveland may still be in the mix at 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jettington Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm not believing a word Chip says about Marriota. If he says publicly that they are interested in trading up, then there's the potential for them to get taken to the cleaners in a trade, if he says no like he did today, the negotiations aren't as desperate. I still think Chip will trade Bradford and the Eagles 1st for Marriota if it comes to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny16 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Cleveland no doubt? You would think. I can't imagine that we were the party dumb enough to do it. Or, he could just be bluffing to get the trade value on Bradford up before the draft. Or to try to make the fanbase think that Bradford is in demand to try to get them to put the pitchforks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Interesting: Liar, liar pants on fire. I'd love to hook up Kelly to this right now and ask him to repeat that claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't believe Chip when he said someone offered him a 1st. If a team did, then it has to be Cleveland. Why couldn't Cleveland just call the Rams and offered them that deal? It's not like Bradford contributed to the Rams last year. I don't think its the Titans, because they are not dumb enough to offer the 2nd overall pick for him when they are essentially gauranteed either Winston or Mariota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just give Cromartie 2 years already. What's the damn dilemma? He wants to be here. He makes the team better. He wants a little more security. We want a CB. I hate the age argurments. The SF Giants signed Tim Hudson and Jake Peavy and they both won a championship last year. The whole argument of vet fillers being past their prime is ridiculous sometimes. Everyone can't be 21 years old on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Expect the unexpected from Kelly- I do not believe he is keeping Bradford at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN Source: Jets have a trade framework in place for Texans QB Ryan Fitzpatrick. Details: http://nydn.us/1b2ghOW #nyj pic.twitter.com/eo4fzRNnLt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think what's telling is that condition thing with if Bradford plays blah blah blah. And how many games. I believe the Eagles pay less if he doesn't play a snap for them. The wording I find funny because maybe chip knows he is never playing a snap and the draft pick compensation will be less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Clicked on Mehtas Link. If true this is beautiful The framework of the deal, which will become official after Brian Hoyer signs with the Texans, is that the Jets will send a 2016 conditional seventh-round pick to Houston in exchange for Fitzpatrick, according to a source. The conditional draft pick can become a sixth-rounder based on Fitzpatrick’s playing time. Conditional 7th upgrades to a 6th depending on playtime. Brilliant and little to no risk. Losing picks in teh last 2 rounds are meaningless. This is the best way to use your 6ths and 7ths imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Brian Hoyer has signed his contract #HoyerMania #Gate — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 11, 2015 Somebody get the Jet Blue NY JETS plane right down to houston and pick Fitzmagic up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Eagles and former Chargers RB Ryan Mathews officially have reached agreement on 3-year, $11.5 million deal that includes $5M gtd, per source — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 11, 2015 Chip does what most Madden players do. But in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Rich Cimini @RichCimini Jets trade for QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, per @AdamSchefter. Send conditional late-round pick Texans. #nyj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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