Jack Straw Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/jets-sign-davis-webb-after-shocking-giants-release/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) 9/4/18, 10:33 AM While former #Giants QB Davis Webb will be on the #Jets practice squad, he’ll make his full salary as if he was on the 53-man roster, I’m told. Smart move. Should be able to keep him on PS all season if they want without another team signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, C Mart said: Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) 9/4/18, 10:33 AM While former #Giants QB Davis Webb will be on the #Jets practice squad, he’ll make his full salary as if he was on the 53-man roster, I’m told. Smart move. Wait, why would he be making his full salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 LOL @ Giants fans right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Very smart move, the kid has arm talent and is worth the chance to develop into a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, MDL_JET said: Wait, why would he be making his full salary? To keep him from signing with another team who is only offering PS pay which I believe is $7500 per week. The Vikings enticed Kyle Sloter to sign on their PS last year by offering him $200K. Webb's take is a bit more though, which I believe is $600K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Wait, why would he be making his full salary? I'd guess the second year of his Giants' contract may have been guaranteed, as I think there are limitations on how much the Jets can offer him, but I may be wrong. I'm sure Webb is just happy not to have to move if his best offer was PS anyway. I imagine he's taking Wolford's spot on the PS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Wait, why would he be making his full salary? PS salaries are negotiatable. There is a minimum but you can pay more to dissuade another team from signing him to their 53 as I mentioned in another thread. Jets could have told him we’ll pay your full 2018 salary and groom you for the possibility of being our #2 QB next yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Wait, why would he be making his full salary? 1 minute ago, C Mart said: PS salaries are negotiatable. There is a minimum but you can pay more to dissuade another team from signing him to their 53 It is also possible that there were other teams looking to sign him to PS and the Jets outbid them. He willl be paid $605K this year according to Spotrac. Other PS guys are at $129.5K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: I'd guess the second year of his Giants' contract may have been guaranteed, as I think there are limitations on how much the Jets can offer him, but I may be wrong. I'm sure Webb is just happy not to have to move if his best offer was PS anyway. I imagine he's taking Wolford's spot on the PS? Never mind, I'm wrong, there is no limit, so it sounds like the Jets are the ones offering up that much. I guess they're basically considering him to essentially be #54 on their active roster, and would promote him if they end up with a need for another QB (or perhaps if another team tries to swipe him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 The Jets have made a quarterback swap on their practice squad, signing former Giants QB Davis Webb and terminating QB John Wolford. Webb (6'5", 230) was the Giants' third-round selection, No. 87 overall, in the 2017 draft out of California, where he played only his senior season (after the previous three seasons at Texas Tech) and completed 382 of 620 passes (61.6%) for 4,295 yards, 37 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. Webb didn't play in any regular-season games for the Giants last season. This preseason he completed 28 of 53 (52.8%) for 283 yards and a TD. He was waived by the Giants on Sunday and cleared waivers. Wolford was undrafted out of Wake Forest this year, participated in the Jets' rookie minicamp as a tryout, then was signed Aug. 26 by the Jets and was in for 46 offensive plays in the preseason finale at Philadelphia, completing eight of 20 passes for 89 yards and an interception. He was waived the next day, then signed Monday to the Jets' practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Good move. I had nothing against Wolford, but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Lith said: It is also possible that there were other teams looking to sign him to PS and the Jets outbid them. He willl be paid $605K this year according to Spotrac. Other PS guys are at $129.5K no doubt. And obviously Jets have the cap room..PS salaries count against the cap I've read other teams have done this in the past and just read Seattle is doing this with the QB they signed to their PS Eric Edholm @Eric_Edholm QB Alex McGough signed back to Seahawks practice squad, per source And they’re paying him his Full Paragraph 5 (Base Salary) to be on PS. Clear they want him there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Likely the backup QB next season. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: I'd guess the second year of his Giants' contract may have been guaranteed, as I think there are limitations on how much the Jets can offer him, but I may be wrong. He cleared waivers, right? His former contract wouldn't be in play here. Probably just had competition from other teams that wanted him on their practice squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, jmat321 said: Likely the backup QB next season. I like it. Most likely backup next year is Josh McCown at @ $6M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, C Mart said: PS salaries are negotiatable. There is a minimum but you can pay more to dissuade another team from signing him to their 53 as I mentioned in another thread. Jets could have told him we’ll pay your full 2018 salary and groom you for the possibility of being our #2 QB next yr. Can a player say no if a team tries to add them to their 53? I thought once a team adds a player from someone else's PS, its on the PS team to put him on their 53 or lose him. I didnt know the player can say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I thought he was Eli Manning’s successor at point last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I thought the Giants passed on Darnold because Eli's heir apparent was already on their roster. Tough break for the midgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 This is hilarious. Giants fans must hate us so much right now. I hate them so much so I’m enjoying this. If we have Sam and Webb turns out to be our long term backup, it’s pure gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I feel like we have 2 franchise qbs now - Darnold and Webb. After all, the Giants passed om Sam thinking that Webb could replace Manning one day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Can't complain about money that doesn't cost against the cap and a higher ceiling guy than Wolford, but I am not a fan of Davis Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Smart move. An upgrade over Wolford with long term backup possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I think it's a great move. Higher ceiling then any other QB we had on the roster and young enough to grow and improve as a solid back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Can't complain about money that doesn't cost against the cap and a higher ceiling guy than Wolford, but I am not a fan of Davis Webb. Right, nothing to get excited about one way or the other. He's basically the Jets #3 QB while not taking up a roster spot. I feel about the same as Bengals fans must feel about their practice squad QB, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, BCJet said: Can a player say no if a team tries to add them to their 53? I thought once a team adds a player from someone else's PS, its on the PS team to put him on their 53 or lose him. I didnt know the player can say no. I'm pretty sure they can. I've read many times a team wants to sign a guy from another teams PS and that team will give him more $$$, promote them, promise to promote them to 53 later etc...PS players are basically FAs on a week to week contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I cant wait to see him light up the Giants and win the Snoopy Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Can't complain about money that doesn't cost against the cap and a higher ceiling guy than Wolford, but I am not a fan of Davis Webb. PS $$ does count against the cap..But we all know the Jets still have what $20m+ this year. I wouldn't discount the Jets paying above the normal PS weekly salary for Bronson Kaufusi. I would guess he had a few offers too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Great move, he doesn't have to move and and we have a promising backup. Great move by Mac. Now sign Dan Bailey FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 this is a good move. the giants move is such a head scratcher considering the guy they replaced him with is a 7 team journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Wow. This is hard to process because its usually the Jets making a stupid move like the Giants did in not drafting Darnold and then releasing Webb. Now the Jets have both Darnold and Webb? Are the tables turning? Is the shoe on the other foot? Giants Fans right about now: Truly is there anything sweeter than Giants Fans losing their sh*t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, slats said: He cleared waivers, right? His former contract wouldn't be in play here. Probably just had competition from other teams that wanted him on their practice squads. That was just my guess if they were talking about the total money he was making this year (not necessarily just from the Jets). I was wrong though, so carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Guess this pays the Giants back for stealing Geno last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, slats said: Right, nothing to get excited about one way or the other. He's basically the Jets #3 QB while not taking up a roster spot. I feel about the same as Bengals fans must feel about their practice squad QB, though. Ouch. I feel bad because you probably know who the Bengals practice squad QB is, but I'm not sure everyone else does. I actually think Wolford might be a better choice for straight backup QB, but Webb certainly has a better chance of becoming a starter and/or getting something back in trade. The Giants were offering him up to Oakland (which is why they carried 4 QBs for a bit) but Oakland went with McCarron instead. 32 minutes ago, BCJet said: Can a player say no if a team tries to add them to their 53? I thought once a team adds a player from someone else's PS, its on the PS team to put him on their 53 or lose him. I didnt know the player can say no. 15 minutes ago, C Mart said: I'm pretty sure they can. I've read many times a team wants to sign a guy from another teams PS and that team will give him more $$$, promote them, promise to promote them to 53 later etc...PS players are basically FAs on a week to week contract. I think the player can refuse to sign but the team cannot block a player from leaving their practice squad. 13 minutes ago, C Mart said: PS $$ does count against the cap..But we all know the Jets still have what $20m+ this year. I wouldn't discount the Jets paying above the normal PS weekly salary for Bronson Kaufusi. I would guess he had a few offers too Not really. The top 51 salaries count against the cap. If Webb isn't in our top 51 he doesn't count at all. If he is, we will only lose at most 200K or so, since that is what the absolute bottom of the barrel guys make. I think $480K is the least. EDIT: Spotrac has him at $605K. That would put him in the top 51, but he would only cost an additional $125K against the cap over our minimum guys (think Fatukasi/Ben Braden) who make $480K. We have over $700K in dead money to Hackenberg and $600K to Devin Smith, so I would call the amount inconsequential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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