jetstream23 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Discussion leading up to the Pittsburgh game.... The Jets final two games of the year are against the current AFC Wildcard teams, the Steelers and Bills, who fought each other in a tough game last night. I don't see the Jets winning either game but it won't be for lack of opportunity. Coming off the Thursday night loss to Baltimore the Jets have 10 days to prep for a home game against Pittsburgh. I think this is their best chance at one more victory this season. The Pittsburgh D scares me more than the Pittsburgh O. Buffalo had a tough time moving the ball although Singletary got loose here and there. I think this is a tough matchup for Darnold and the O. The Jets will need to rely on their stout run defense again to contain John Connor and hope that Gregg Williams can work a little magic to stop Duck Hodges and the Steelers offense. With the playoffs in reach, I can't see Tomlin allowing the Steelers to have a letdown vs. the Jets and look ahead to their Week 17 matchup with the Ravens. BUT, a Steelers loss to the Jets would set them up for a potentially crushing end to the season with 3 straight losses (Buff, Jets, Ravens) and a likely playoff spot miss to a team like the Titans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsFanatic Posted December 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2019 I think the Jets will beat the Steelers, even though there will be a ton of Steeler fans in the stadium: I believe both Adams and Williams will play Jets are 4-3 at home Steelers aren't that good 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 The Steeler pass rush will destroy our offensive line. But our defense could do the same to Hodges 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustEndTheSuffering Posted December 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2019 i would love nothing more than to play spoiler and beat the Steelers, possibly crushing their playoff hopes. It would warm my heart for the holiday season seeing all their fans at Metlife in tears. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: i would love nothing more than to play spoiler and beat the Steelers, possibly crushing their playoff hopes. It would warm my heart for the holiday season seeing all their fans at Metlife in tears. This - and it would make the Bills sweep (Jets should have won first game) a little more tolerable, especially if the Bills beat the pats* and take the AFCE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Will Jamal and Quinnen be ready? We need them both to win. Hope we wear the black unis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just need some Duck for the tailgate parties! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: I think the Jets will beat the Steelers, even though there will be a ton of Steeler fans in the stadium: I believe both Adams and Williams will play Jets are 4-3 at home Steelers aren't that good Neither Jamal or Williams will play. Calling it now. Jamal's agent ain't letting him tarnish his stock over two meaningless games. Williams just blows and the Jets know it. He doesnt have the strength to make it the entire season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Jets are 3 point underdogs meanwhile Pitt doesn’t even have a QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerofSam14 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I think it’s a 50/50 game. Big test for Darnold and Gase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I wish I could say I care but I really could not care less. They lost me after losing to winless Miami and again to winless Cinci. Anything before of after was/is fools gold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Jets are 3 point underdogs meanwhile Pitt doesn’t even have a QB They have a great defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Pittsburgh needs this game desperately. Also, their coach is wayyyyyyyy better than Gase. Steelers will come prepared and figure it out. Jets are done winning this season and should be. Get the best pick they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, JTJet said: Neither Jamal or Williams will play. Calling it now. Jamal's agent ain't letting him tarnish his stock over two meaningless games. Fair point. 53 minutes ago, JTJet said: Williams just blows and the Jets know it. He doesnt have the strength to make it the entire season. This is just stupid. I'm sorry. Not calling you stupid....but those two sentences combined are a heap of stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 I like that the Jets finish the year against two AFC Wildcard teams. Those teams are in it! They're competing, they want to win, they're jostling for playoff seeding, etc. This is a great test and a pair of "measuring stick" games at the end of the year that hopefully solidify just how bad the Jets are, how far away they are from competing with Wildcard caliber teams, and if there are any strengths whatsoever that the Jets can carry into 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Can't wait to see which TE Gase assigns to try to block TJ Watt by himself all game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I like that the Jets finish the year against two AFC Wildcard teams. Those teams are in it! They're competing, they want to win, they're jostling for playoff seeding, etc. This is a great test and a pair of "measuring stick" games at the end of the year that hopefully solidify just how bad the Jets are, how far away they are from competing with Wildcard caliber teams, and if there are any strengths whatsoever that the Jets can carry into 2020. I like it in theory, but these games won't tell us anything we don't already know. Also, the Bills game might not mean anything for them after this coming weekend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I think that both games will be toss ups. The Jets could very well beat both teams... the Steelers are on their third string quarterback and the Bills could easily get beaten by a division opponent in what will be a meaningless game for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I think the game could be like sudden death - first to score wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: I wish I could say I care but I really could not care less. They lost me after losing to winless Miami and again to winless Cinci. Anything before of after was/is fools gold. Yep! That’s where I’m at too. However I’ll still watch both because I am a junkie that cannot kick the habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 PIT defense is legit and is another good growth test for Darnold going into the off-season. But Devlin is pathetic and has no business being a starter, if Adams and Williams play the defense should rack up some nice stats. This will be a low scoring game so hitting FG's will be important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Pittsburgh's offense is really something awful and the Jets defense has played below their statistical averages for the last two weeks with Adams out. Hard to tell how this one will go but if Adams plays the numbers should favor the Jets, but on the other hand Darnold hasn't laid a huge turd in a little while now and the odds say at least one of his last two won't go well given the caliber of defenses he's facing. Either way I'm intrigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, slimjasi said: The Steeler pass rush will destroy our offensive line. But our defense could do the same to Hodges I said the same thing about the Ravens and was surprised but the next two are a different beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Fair point. This is just stupid. I'm sorry. Not calling you stupid....but those two sentences combined are a heap of stupid. Fair enough. I get that they may have hope for him, but it's well documented that he isnt physically strong enough right now. That comes from his own mouth, production on field, and injury history so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Darnold is facing 2 playoff defenses to finish the year I don’t care about anything but seeing him make quick reads and good decisions 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 The Pittsburgh pass rush is scary. I fear that Gase is going to have a good game plan early, the Jets will be creative. Then he will get complacement and just drop Sam back to get slaughtered. No empty back fields. Sam has to avoid mistakes. This needs to be a NO interception game. The Pitt passing game is terrible right now. Stop the run and grind it out on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I don't think the Jets win either game, but I do believe these games are winnable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I don't want the Jets to win another game. I want them to get a top 6 pick which should net them a top WR or OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Beat the Steelers and lose to the Bills (so they can push Pat's to Wildcard) would be the perfect end to the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 This is Jet’s history. Easy meaningless win that will cost them a few draft spots and they’ll miss out on a future HOF and get a JAG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 The Pitt D is very good but their secondary is their weak spot. Josh Allen missed on several opportunities to complete passes to open receivers simply due to his inaccuracy. Sam can hit an open receiver, but I do not know if the Jets O line will give Sam the same amount of time as the Bills O line gave Allen. Also, while I am an advocate of Sam using his legs when opportunities arise, someone tell Sam to get down quickly because whenever Allen ran it was clear that the Pitt D viewed it as an opportunity to make a big hit and cause a fumble. Query, when does a JT Watt football punch attempt that misses the ball and becomes a punch to the chest or stomach of the ball carrier become a personal foul for roughing? Or, do the rules allow a furious punch of a ball carrier in the course of a tackle attempt? Is Mason Rudolph really so bad that Duck Rodgers is a better option? Rodgers reminded me of a weaker-armed, less inaccurate, smaller, and slower version of Ryan Fitzpatrick. I expect the Steelers O to run, run, run against the Jets D. My over/under for pass attempts is 18. This is a game the Jets can win, but it will require the O to produce 20 to 24 points. I just can't see the Steelers scoring 20 unless they get Defensive or Special Teams TD's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: The Pitt D is very good but their secondary is their weak spot. Josh Allen missed on several opportunities to complete passes to open receivers simply due to his inaccuracy. Sam can hit an open receiver, but I do not know if the Jets O line will give Sam the same amount of time as the Bills O line gave Allen. Also, while I am an advocate of Sam using his legs when opportunities arise, someone tell Sam to get down quickly because whenever Allen ran it was clear that the Pitt D viewed it as an opportunity to make a big hit and cause a fumble. Query, when does a JT Watt football punch attempt that misses the ball and becomes a punch to the chest or stomach of the ball carrier become a personal foul for roughing? Or, do the rules allow a furious punch of a ball carrier in the course of a tackle attempt? Is Mason Rudolph really so bad that Duck Rodgers is a better option? Rodgers reminded me of a weaker-armed, less inaccurate, smaller, and slower version of Ryan Fitzpatrick. I expect the Steelers O to run, run, run against the Jets D. My over/under for pass attempts is 18. This is a game the Jets can win, but it will require the O to produce 20 to 24 points. I just can't see the Steelers scoring 20 unless they get Defensive or Special Teams TD's. Great point on Watts missed punch. How the hell is that not a personal foul? Does the NFL want tacking or guys running around throwing punches? I hate the NFL more each week. Let's switch Watt (Steelers) to Hewitt (Jets), and Hewitt punches at the ball & misses, I guarantee you he gets a personal foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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