Greenbloodblitz Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: What exactly was that plan? Apparently to take 10 drafts to build an offensive line!? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, BigRy56 said: Idzik 88 and out the gate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: Was it dumb? The Jets needed a QB and they got the one that was considered to be the top in the draft, in the 2nd round. And, you could make the argument that he was in fact the best QB in that draft. It's either Geno or Mike Glennon. It didn't work out, but it really wasn't a bad draft selection. The gripe should be that he didn't recognize the issues once on the team, and take Bridgewater or Carr over Calvin Pryor the following year. Right. It wasnt bad. It was terrible. Not going to revisit the horror of Geno. His career tells you all you need to know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, ChuckkieB said: Mccagnan. 5 drafts and 4 years of complete ineptness is unrivaled. Imagine the havoc Idzik would have wreaked in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: Right. It wasnt bad. It was terrible. Not going to revisit the horror of Geno. His career tells you all you need to know. The inability to discern between a bad decision and an okay decision that doesn’t pan out is on you here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 mac. at least idz set up the 12 pick draft. he just blew the execution. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted March 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 picks. 12 picks in one of the most loaded drafts of all time. Only one pick remains. 12. Picks. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Maccagnan. It’s not even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, TeddEY said: The inability to discern between a bad decision and an okay decision that doesn’t pan out is on you here. Actually it was on Idzik who ultimately lost his job for drafting this clown In the first place. But you go right on saving face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, Mogglez said: 12 picks. 12 picks in one of the most loaded drafts of all time. Only one pick remains. 12. Picks. Idzik should write 12 picks 12,000 times on the blackboard as punishment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Mac because he got so long and up until the day he was fired had ardent defenders about what a good job he was doing. Of course, the next day, said ardent defenders moved on trashing the hell out of him. His damage to not only the roster, but the fragile minds of the SOJF is irreparable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 No comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Wonderboy said: Right. It wasnt bad. It was terrible. Not going to revisit the horror of Geno. His career tells you all you need to know. He’s put together a ten year NFL career. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, Mogglez said: 12 picks. 12 picks in one of the most loaded drafts of all time. Only one pick remains. 12. Picks. The best player he passed on in the first round was Ha Ha Clinton Dix. It was not a “loaded draft.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The best player he passed on in the first round was Ha Ha Clinton Dix. It was not a “loaded draft.” That's a weird way to spell Brandin Cooks. And Devante Adams. And Allen Robinson. And Dee Ford. And Ju'Wuan James. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He’s put together a ten year NFL career. ?????????? thats 10 LOL for his stellar 10 year career. Dont mess with your rep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, Mogglez said: That's a weird way to spell Brandon Cooks. And Devante Adams. And Allen Robinson. And Dee Ford. Adams is the only one of those to make it to a second contract with the team that drafted him, and even he looked like a bust for two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Macc gave us a All Pro, Pro Bowl S, a young QB to hopefully give us what we haven't had in decades,. That in itself is better puts him ahead of an Idzik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Post 2011 lockout Tannenbaum sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Wonderboy said: Actually it was on Idzik who ultimately lost his job for drafting this clown In the first place. But you go right on saving face. And in true fan like thinking it doesn't mean the pick was bad. Just that it didnt work out, that the player didnt develop as in the case of most QBs drafted. Hard to argue given he was projected as the 1st QB to be picked and Idzik passed on him in the 1st believing he would be able to grab him later in the 2nd. Sucks that Geno shlt the bed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I think Idzik was more dramatically a total failure but Big Mac had so much more time that you could go either way. Frankly, 2nd half Tannenbaum (with Rex, 09-12) was arguably worse than either, but his Mangini years bail him out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Post 2011 lockout Tannenbaum sucked. Post-Mangini Tannenbaum was a disaster, and that wasn’t a coincidence 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 All the above............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 20 hours ago, harts724 said: I chose John Idzik only because Maccagnan landed Darnold That’s like lighting your house on fire and taking credit for putting it out . MAC takes HACK, who no one had in any mock drafts, passes on many QBs and then must trade 3 seconds. THEN.. the Giants and Browns pass on Darnold. Please... where was the skill? MAC sucks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Everyone on this board who pretends to be one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Mogglez said: 12 picks. 12 picks in one of the most loaded drafts of all time. Only one pick remains. 12. Picks. The one with the broken neck.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Idzik was terrible, but Maccagnan had five years worth of **** ups. Literally everything he did was wrong, drafting, signing free agents, overpaying for one year performances, you name it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 hours ago, harts724 said: I chose John Idzik only because Maccagnan landed Darnold And Adams, Maye, Jenkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Wonderboy said: Actually it was on Idzik who ultimately lost his job for drafting this clown In the first place. But you go right on saving face. Yeah, that’s the reason... Despite Macc drafting a significantly worse QB in the 2nd round and still getting 3 more years. There’s 0 evidence to support your position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Probably has to be macc because he was brought in as a scouting expert with the expectation that he would draft well which he failed to do for the most part. Idzik was brought in as a numbers guy with the expectation that he would fix our horrific cap situation which he fully accomplished but fell short in other places.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Mogglez said: 12 picks. 12 picks in one of the most loaded drafts of all time. Only one pick remains. 12. Picks. Indeed. That said, the stockpile of picks were all backloaded. He had 1 pick in each of the first three rounds. Half of those 12 were in rounds 5+. There were 4 6th rounders. Once we reached our pick in the 4th, there were only two pro bowl players selected in the whole draft. The Idzik 12 is completely overblown and with hindsight, you wouldn't do better than most of Macc's drafts with hindsight, unless you want to start making imaginary trades. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 9 hours ago, BroadwayRay said: The Jets have never really had a "good" GM, but the current streak of bad GMs is pretty unbelievably bad. Like really, really bad, and that includes Parcells, who was a buffoon in the front office despite his obvious talents as a head coach. But who was the worst? It was Maccagnan. From his ruinous free agent signings, to his complete lack of talent assessment skills, to his complete bungling of every single draft he managed, to Hackenberg, to Pollite, to Gase, to passing over Mahomes and Watson, the list goes on. He drafted Darnold, that's it, and even that isn't a certainty to be a success story at this point. To cap it off, the team suffered five seasons of his buffoonery. At least Tannenbaum had a few good years. At least Idzik's damage was limited to two years. Bradway was a close second for the all-time worst; Parcells was third. What Idzik did in the last dradt he ran was freaking criminal. With the amount of talent at skill positions in that draft, we took Calvin Pryor in the first and Jace Amaro in the second with Davnte Adams, Jarvis Landry and Allen Robinson still undrafted. At lwast when Mac passed on the two QB's he picked a guy that isn't selling insurance right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 6 hours ago, TeddEY said: What exactly was that plan? Perpetual rebuild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Indeed. That said, the stockpile of picks were all backloaded. He had 1 pick in each of the first three rounds. Half of those 12 were in rounds 5+. There were 4 6th rounders. Once we reached our pick in the 4th, there were only two pro bowl players selected in the whole draft. The Idzik 12 is completely overblown and with Hindsight, you wouldn't do better than most of Macc's drafts with hindsight, unless you want to start making imaginary trades. The Idzik 12 is a Manish troll job that grew legs. 90% of Idzik hate is based upon people’s inability to accept that Rex was terrible. So terrible, in fact, that he was the root cause of having to hire someone of Idzik’s caliber in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: He’s put together a ten year NFL career. So has Vlad Ducasse. Everyone needs depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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