Jets Getting More Cap

[SR24]

 

[SR24]

Not sure exactly what it means as far as exact money for Mosley but gotta take what we can get 

[section314]

With this news, how long do the guys have to opt-back -in??

[Columbia Jet Fan]

So we get an extra $10mm of cap this year? That’s what Mosleys bonus was right? 

[Augustiniak]

Because teams like the jets would have had 10M against the cap for nothing, so that makes sense.  And if there’s a season it’s all the more important to have cap flexibility because you’re going to be signing way more guys as your own guys have to isolate and miss games.  

[Greenbloodblitz]

30 minutes ago, section314 said:

With this news, how long do the guys have to opt-back -in??

As I read it once you opt out there is no opt back in your done till next season.

[varjet]

I don’t know how much this helps really.  The Mosley contract was another Mac mess that JD needed to get out of.  It is now rolled forward another year.  The salary cap savings will likely be rolled forward to next year.  

[sec101row23]

21 minutes ago, Columbia Jet Fan said:

So we get an extra $10mm of cap this year? That’s what Mosleys bonus was right? 

 

[slats]

20 minutes ago, Columbia Jet Fan said:

So we get an extra $10mm of cap this year? That’s what Mosleys bonus was right? 

No, that was a roster bonus that he, "earned." The pro-rated portion of his signing bonus is what they get back, and that's just $1.5M. 

[Greenbloodblitz]

Listen Mosley never really even played for this team. I was pissed that as a veteran leader he opted out because now you're going to see the rest of the cowards start bailing. What I mean by that is all of the "me" guys. You know the type, that film themselves throwing bags of gummy dicks at their ex-wife and own child in front of the police? LMFAO! These are the guys that don't care about anybody or anything.

I'm not saying it's wrong if you actually have a family issue or a health issue, but the entire world is in disarray right now. You would expect the NFL, a multi billion-dollar corporation to have its s*** together!? For Christ's sakes there's an entire medical staff employed by every team to take care of multi-millionaires LOL! This isn't Stat Health Care down the block in Brentwood.

Just like we claimed all the first line workers as Heroes cause they did their job during the pandemic, I think it's up to the actual leaders and heroes in the NFL to show everyone on both sides that there is hope, and that we will all make it through this. I have no respect for a veteran who already "got paid"  opting out. I think it's BS-

[Butterfield]

2 minutes ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

Listen Mosley never really even played for this team. I was pissed that as a veteran leader he opted out because now you're going to see the rest of the cowards start bailing. What I mean by that is all of the "me" guys. You know the type, that film themselves throwing bags of gummy dicks at their ex-wife and own child in front of the police? LMFAO! These are the guys that don't care about anybody or anything.

I'm not saying it's wrong if you actually have a family issue or a health issue, but the entire world is in disarray right now. You would expect the NFL, a multi billion-dollar corporation to have its s*** together!? For Christ's sakes there's an entire medical staff employed by every team to take care of multi-millionaires LOL! This isn't Stat Health Care down the block in Brentwood.

Just like we claimed all the first line workers as Heroes cause they did their job during the pandemic, I think it's up to the actual leaders and heroes in the NFL to show everyone on both sides that there is hope, and that we will all make it through this. I have no respect for a veteran who already "got paid"  opting out. I think it's BS-

Its a throw away season, that probably won’t even occur.  Besides that, its just a game.  Calm down.  

[20andOut]

Keep in mind that any team gaining cap money this year will be losing it on out years. Makes it harder to get out from bad contracts.

[Greenbloodblitz]

18 minutes ago, Butterfield said:

Its a throw away season, that probably won’t even occur.  Besides that, its just a game.  Calm down.  

Yeah I can see your angle. But come on it's a hell of a lot more than a game dude. Why do you think so many people post on here? It's a symbiance between the fans and the players it's about hopes and dreams. We experience vicariously through them. It's psychological it's Americana it's ingrained.

 Do you see Aerosmith playing for 2 hours to an empty Stadium? 

If I could have been the opening act for The Rolling Stones and it got canceled I would have been devastated. That would be a moment that affected me for the rest of my life so how do you think the younger players on the bubble feel? Do they think it's just a game and get over it?  I definitely don't think so.

Jenga is just a game.

Besides never in the history of being told to calm down has anybody ever calmed down!!! LMFAO!

To me personally and my four children, Football Sundays are to us what it is to other people when they go to church. By this I mean the regularity and expectation and habit. We bust out the food spread we put on our jerseys we take the day off we live  and breathe in the moment and vicariously through the players. That's what being a fan is. It's not just a game dude it's so much more.

[nycdan]

1 hour ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

 

I'm not saying it's wrong if you actually have a family issue or a health issue, but the entire world is in disarray right now. You would expect the NFL, a multi billion-dollar corporation to have its s*** together!? For Christ's sakes there's an entire medical staff employed by every team to take care of multi-millionaires LOL! This isn't Stat Health Care down the block in Brentwood.

Just like we claimed all the first line workers as Heroes cause they did their job during the pandemic, I think it's up to the actual leaders and heroes in the NFL to show everyone on both sides that there is hope, and that we will all make it through this. I have no respect for a veteran who already "got paid"  opting out. I think it's BS-

 

Sounds great in theory.  But then you have stories like this:

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/08/04/gunfire-beverly-crest-large-party-3-wounded/

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Kennie D. Leggett, who identified himself to CBSLA as the head of security for the party, alleged it was being thrown to celebrate a player recently getting drafted to an NFL team, but did not clarify the name of the player or which team he was drafted to. 

On Monday night, prior to the shooting, police had responded to numerous complaints from neighbors worried about the size of the crowd. Pack buses were seen dropping dozens of people off at the home. When officers first arrived at about 6:30 p.m. Monday, they found about 200 people.

While large gatherings are prohibited in L.A. County due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, dozens of people could be seen from overhead at the party with very few wearing face coverings and practicing social distancing.

 

 

I'm not getting into the robbery/shooting part of it, which is tragic but unrelated.  Hundreds of guests at a house without masks.  All the doctors in the world can't treat stupidity and when things like this are happening, how do we expect to keep everyone else in the bubble safe.  

[Greenbloodblitz]

3 minutes ago, nycdan said:

Sounds great in theory.  But then you have stories like this:

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/08/04/gunfire-beverly-crest-large-party-3-wounded/

 

I'm not getting into the robbery/shooting part of it, which is tragic but unrelated.  Hundreds of guests at a house without masks.  All the doctors in the world can't treat stupidity and when things like this are happening, how do we expect to keep everyone else in the bubble safe.  

 I completely hear you. Unfortunately for some, there is this thing called learning the hard way. LOL

Experience can be the worst teacher you ever had

[batman10023]

1 hour ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

Listen Mosley never really even played for this team. I was pissed that as a veteran leader he opted out because now you're going to see the rest of the cowards start bailing. What I mean by that is all of the "me" guys. You know the type, that film themselves throwing bags of gummy dicks at their ex-wife and own child in front of the police? LMFAO! These are the guys that don't care about anybody or anything.

I'm not saying it's wrong if you actually have a family issue or a health issue, but the entire world is in disarray right now. You would expect the NFL, a multi billion-dollar corporation to have its s*** together!? For Christ's sakes there's an entire medical staff employed by every team to take care of multi-millionaires LOL! This isn't Stat Health Care down the block in Brentwood.

Just like we claimed all the first line workers as Heroes cause they did their job during the pandemic, I think it's up to the actual leaders and heroes in the NFL to show everyone on both sides that there is hope, and that we will all make it through this. I have no respect for a veteran who already "got paid"  opting out. I think it's BS-

read his response - it seems like he lost alot of the fire.  it sucks because he was quite good that first half he played for us.

[HawkeyeJet]

If I'm Douglas I sign Darnold to an extension tomorrow and front load it to the moon.  That way if Darnold isn't your guy in say 3 years, you can move on with less issue.  And if he is your guy you have way more payroll flexibility in his prime.

I don't know if that's actually feasible I guess.  I don't know much about contracts. 

[nycdan]

13 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

If I'm Douglas I sign Darnold to an extension tomorrow and front load it to the moon.  That way if Darnold isn't your guy in say 3 years, you can move on with less issue.  And if he is your guy you have way more payroll flexibility in his prime.

I don't know if that's actually feasible I guess.  I don't know much about contracts. 

The danger in frontloading is that some guys don't want to play the back end of the deal when they are making below-market salary even though they cashed the big signing bonus check earlier.  

[Matt39]

17 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

If I'm Douglas I sign Darnold to an extension tomorrow and front load it to the moon.  That way if Darnold isn't your guy in say 3 years, you can move on with less issue.  And if he is your guy you have way more payroll flexibility in his prime.

I don't know if that's actually feasible I guess.  I don't know much about contracts. 

Nah. Not with the potential for Lawrence if Darnold implodes.

[heymangold]

Bring me Clowney and Ryan now.

[UntouchableCrew]

4 minutes ago, nycdan said:

The danger in frontloading is that some guys don't want to play the back end of the deal when they are making below-market salary even though they cashed the big signing bonus check earlier.  

This was Revis through and through.

[JoJoTownsell1]

2 hours ago, Butterfield said:

Its a throw away season, that probably won’t even occur.  Besides that, its just a game.  Calm down.  

It's Mosley's job. He's just fortunate to play a game for a living. It doesn't make his obligation to do his job any different than the rest of us.

[FidelioJet]

This is actually bad news for the Jets.

This is a tank year anyway, we’re not going to spend the money on anyone to be competitive - would much rather have had the $10mm hit this year.

Now the cap hit will roll over to next year - when we’re, hopefully, going to try and win.  

I guess it rolls over anyway but we have to be near the minimum right now though.

[chirorob]

3 hours ago, section314 said:

With this news, how long do the guys have to opt-back -in??

They have already been paid, it just means their cap # for this year goes down.   It actually makes it harder to cut them going forward.

[playtowinthegame]

2 hours ago, slats said:

No, that was a roster bonus that he, "earned." The pro-rated portion of his signing bonus is what they get back, and that's just $1.5M. 

I love the quotation. "Earned" ?

[Butterfield]

19 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

It's Mosley's job. He's just fortunate to play a game for a living. It doesn't make his obligation to do his job any different than the rest of us.

Lots of people have decided to take time off or not work during these times.  No big deal.  

[Losmeister]

6 hours ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

By this I mean the regularity and expectation and habit.

I think I understand the psychology of wanting things normal. 

And yet, it alslo seems, that YOU don't get it.

It's not regular, habitual times. 

[Butterfield]

6 hours ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

Yeah I can see your angle. But come on it's a hell of a lot more than a game dude. Why do you think so many people post on here? It's a symbiance between the fans and the players it's about hopes and dreams. We experience vicariously through them. It's psychological it's Americana it's ingrained.

 Do you see Aerosmith playing for 2 hours to an empty Stadium? 

If I could have been the opening act for The Rolling Stones and it got canceled I would have been devastated. That would be a moment that affected me for the rest of my life so how do you think the younger players on the bubble feel? Do they think it's just a game and get over it?  I definitely don't think so.

Jenga is just a game.

Besides never in the history of being told to calm down has anybody ever calmed down!!! LMFAO!

To me personally and my four children, Football Sundays are to us what it is to other people when they go to church. By this I mean the regularity and expectation and habit. We bust out the food spread we put on our jerseys we take the day off we live  and breathe in the moment and vicariously through the players. That's what being a fan is. It's not just a game dude it's so much more.

I would say the same thing I would say to many church goers, its not healthy to be so obsessed.  

[jetscrazey]

The Mosley contract is looking like a big loss for the Jets.  Whatever space they can save, great.

[sec101row23]

5 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said:

If I'm Douglas I sign Darnold to an extension tomorrow and front load it to the moon.  That way if Darnold isn't your guy in say 3 years, you can move on with less issue.  And if he is your guy you have way more payroll flexibility in his prime.

I don't know if that's actually feasible I guess.  I don't know much about contracts. 

The earliest they can extend Sam is after this season.   

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

5 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Nah. Not with the potential for Lawrence if Darnold implodes.

Only potential for Lawerence and Fields is if Darnold opts out. 

[kdels62]

5 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

This is actually bad news for the Jets.

This is a tank year anyway, we’re not going to spend the money on anyone to be competitive - would much rather have had the $10mm hit this year.

Now the cap hit will roll over to next year - when we’re, hopefully, going to try and win.  

I guess it rolls over anyway but we have to be near the minimum right now though.

Mosley’s prorated signing bonus cost is only $1.5 million. 

[Matt39]

6 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

Only potential for Lawerence and Fields is if Darnold opts out. 

Dont think Darnold's roster status would impact them taking another QB if it doesnt work out this season.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

21 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Dont think Darnold's roster status would impact them taking another QB if it doesnt work out this season.

My point was, we won’t be in position to draft those guys. 

[Riggins]

8 hours ago, batman10023 said:

read his response - it seems like he lost alot of the fire.  it sucks because he was quite good that first half he played for us.

Career ending injuries will do that to you.