Popular Post DarnoldHomer Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) He has shown and done enough with so Little support to not be called that. Disappointing? Absolutely. Inconsistent? Sure? In a crappy organization (passionate fans tho!) with no talent around him? Clearly. Unimaginative and stubborn cross eyed coach? That’s true. But not a bust. Darnold has made plays that maybe 10 QBs in history of league have made. He’s made tight window Throws. He’s made power throws. Touch throws. On the run throws. Of course consistency and results matter. Busts don’t have talent or results. Jamarcus Russell is a bust. Ryan Leaf is a bust. Akili Smith is a bust. David Klinger is a bust. Darnold is NOT a bust. Edited November 13, 2020 by DarnoldHomer 8 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 What an unfortunate life you have lived 2 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Sam Darnold is a NY Jets BUST. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Darnold has no sack. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnoldHomer Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 Says this guy?????? Lmao. “Hey can I play too“ 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Oh, he's made power throws! well, damn. He's been a big disappointment and hasn't earned a second contract with the Jets. That's all that matters. Call it whatever you want to call it. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bleedin Green Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just call it a gut feeling, but I think this guy has a completely objective perspective when it comes to Darnold. 2 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pac Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 hey Nico. 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DarnoldHomer Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 Sam’s getting the last laugh. Watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I feel like we’re splitting ginger hairs at this point. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnoldHomer Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 Sorry I’m not group think keyboard warrior..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Bro! Bro? BRO!!! Wish him no ill, but Darnold isn't it. Flacco playing well with a banged up OL against a well-coached if undermanned Pats team was an indictment. This is year 3, when the likes of Watson, Mahomes and Jackson came into their own. Yes, this team is bad, but it looks way worse with the 32nd rank QBR QB who wears #14. I dunno, may be Darnold isn't that intense, may be the Jets CS has done him no favors, but that's all details. He isn't any good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 ’Tis but thy name that is mine enemy: What's Bust? It is not hand nor foot, Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part. What's in a name? That which we call a bottom three QB, By any other name would still be terrible at quarterback. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Sam’s getting the last laugh. Watch.Yes, he’ll get overpaid to be a QB2. Dream job. I’m jealous already. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, TeddEY said: ’Tis but thy name that is mine enemy: What's Bust? It is not hand nor foot, Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part. What's in a name? That which we call a bottom three QB, By any other name would still be terrible at quarterback. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage rage against the dying of the light! Thou needs to pass that sh*te. Amirite? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 54 minutes ago, DarnoldHomer said: Darnold is NOT a bust. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 To really get a sense for how bad Darnold is doing now, Winston and Mariotta played under their 5th year option, and Tannehill under Tannenbaum (surprise) was extended prior to year 5 and effectively paid $20mm for year 5. Bortles was extended prior to year 5 for about $18mm, slightly less than the 5th year option. So if we are thinking that Darnold is not worth slightly less than the $25mm current fifth year option for a QB (hint: as of now he is not), that makes Darnold an epic fail when compared to the recent first round QBs that did not work out for their original teams. At this point we keep to the tank and reboot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 So the guy, almost the entire NFL exclusively had going first overall besides the sh*t Browns, Is inconsistent and disappointing but somehow not a bust. Define bust (for an NFL player). Sh!t is getting darn-old now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnoldHomer Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 Thought I did. I’ll do it again Jamarcus Russell Ryan Leaf Akili Smith David Klinger Josh Rosen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnoldHomer Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 I’d also say this As a definition. Drafted in Top 10. Out of the league due to performance issues in 3/4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Thought I did. I’ll do it again Jamarcus Russell Ryan Leaf Akili Smith David Klinger Josh Rosen Sam DarnoldAll of the above are busts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I’d also say this As a definition. Drafted in Top 10. Out of the league due to performance issues in 3/4 years. Your definition is dumb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 hours ago, DarnoldHomer said: He has shown and done enough with so Little support to not be called that. Disappointing? Absolutely. Inconsistent? Sure? In a crappy organization (passionate fans tho!) with no talent around him? Clearly. Unimaginative and stubborn cross eyed coach? That’s true. But not a bust. Darnold has made plays that maybe 10 QBs in history of league have made. He’s made tight window Throws. He’s made power throws. Touch throws. On the run throws. Of course consistency and results matter. Busts don’t have talent or results. Jamarcus Russell is a bust. Ryan Leaf is a bust. Akili Smith is a bust. David Klinger is a bust. Darnold is NOT a bust. I have been a huge Darnold supporter. Flacco had a line with simplified blocking schemes that worked well and our 3 top receivers for the first time. Let's see what Darnold does in a similar situation and that will tell us a lot. I have been a huge Darnold supporter but I am really concerned at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 hours ago, SAR I said: SAR I Tis Gase and Darnold share such limelight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, DarnoldHomer said: Thought I did. I’ll do it again Jamarcus Russell Ryan Leaf Akili Smith David Klinger Josh Rosen Sports for 300 Alex. Name a QB that has failed to live up to their so called FQB expectations as these in this list. Who is Sam Darnold? Correct! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I'm going to try to be objective here and support the OP. Sam has not had a smooth ride. He's had to work through two different offenses. He's had personal injuries and the Jets have led the league in injuries for the last 2 years am I wrong? Throw in Mono and the pandemic, and trying to center the offense around a washed-up Le'Veon Bell, whilst also dealing with the loudmouth box safety LOL. Hey how about that offensive line? How about those injured starting wide receivers that he's yet to play with going into week 10? Sam has played sloppy. I think he's frustrated and he's pressing. I'd say he's 23 years old and doesn't have the wisdom to know any other way than to put it all on his own shoulders and try even harder. I will say this to some of you posters careful what you wish for. I can see Sam in a different Jersey doing just fine. Frisco, Pittsburgh, Indy... just a gut feeling. Can you honestly say this kid's been given a fair chance? A decent even shot to show what he can do? I can't say yes. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 8 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Sam Darnold is a NY Jets BUST. I understand how you did that. Not a bust because he will be successful with a supporting cast around him, it just may be with a another team. Or sometimes when you get to bottom, you fight your way up making it a true success story. If he did that he would be immortalized. He just may not get the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Psst... it's possible for supporting cast and QB to both suck. Not mutually exclusive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Darnold may or may not be a bust (that's a strong word) but however, he is (as a 3rd year QB) ranked and rated as the 32nd and dead last QB amongst all starting NFL QB's. And the history of QB's who have finished their respected seasons as the dead last rated QB is not something to build around ala... See for yourselves. Sam Darnold: 65.9 (2020). Andy Dalton: 78.3 (2019). Josh Rosen: 66.7 (2018). DeShone Kizer: 60.5 (2017). Ryan Fitzpatrick: 69.6 (2016). Ryan Mallett: 67.9 (2015). Blake Bortles: 69.5 (2014). Geno Smith: 66.5 (2013). Matt Cassel: 66.7 (2012). Blaine Gabbert: 65.4 (2011). Jimmy Clausen: 58.4 (2010). Jamarcus Russell: 50.0 (2009). Derek Anderson: 66.5 (2008). Kellen Clemens: 60.9 (2007). Andrew Walter: 55.8 (2006). Kyle Orton: 59.7 (2005). AJ Feeley: 61.7 (2004). Kordell Stewart: 56.8 (2003). Joey Harrington: 59.9 (2002). Jon Kitna: 61.1 (2001). Ryan Leaf: 56.2 (2000). (Sam is mediocre, and a career NFL backup, at best). Trevor Lawrence can not come soon enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 hours ago, DarnoldHomer said: Thought I did. I’ll do it again Jamarcus Russell Ryan Leaf Akili Smith David Klinger Josh Rosen He’s better than this list yes. I don’t necessarily think his career is over just yet- it’s over here though. Having said that.... Sam will have to catch on- win a starting job elsewhere- prove he can stay healthy and actually play a full season for once. I think the jury is still out- but I also don’t think it completely unfair to call him a bust to this point, given where he was drafted and his results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Sam has been given a very raw deal, but he's missing wide open guys. Not even seeing them. If he were simply making the easy plays right now, I'd still be holding onto something for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 This is pretty damn simple. If we're not finishing at #1 or #2 pick this year than Sam Darnold WILL BE the QB for the NY Jets in 2021 & he'll be playing with a much better surrounding cast than he is right now based on our free agent dollars, and multiple draft picks with a GM that seemingly has a clue. He'll get 1 year to prove himself. But, all bets are off if we finish with one of the first 2 picks & that's because Trevor Lawrence & Justin Fields have BOTH played way more games & shown way more consistency than Sam & we would have them under rookie contracts for 5 years in a QB reset situation. We're 0-9, some of our WRs have gotten healthy, the Oline has seemingly gotten a little better so the truth is Sam Darnold will have an opportunity over the last 7 games to cement his place as our QB. If he plays well we'll win a few games & probably be out of the QB sweepstakes in the 2021 draft & he'll be back in 2021. If not he'll be traded after we draft TL or JF. Pretty simple. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I've been on the QB's side as well in this argument. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt... I know it's hard when you see some of the bone headed plays he makes. But I also see some of the awesome plays he makes as well. I agree if the same line play happens that Flacco has been playing under, if Sam fails, then it's on him. I think if Sam was under Andy Reid, Kyle S, or any other competent OC, I think he'd be very worthy of being our QB. GASE is the problem here, How can we honestly say what Sam is when he's had GASE and Loggains as his coaches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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