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Personally, I'm triggered by anyone with the name "Mac".

Because when the rest of your team is so much better than the guy they are going up against (O-lineman, receivers, great RB) it is easy for a QB to look great!  Hows Tua looking vs NFL talent?

Not a great athlete and a bit hard to judge because of how stacked his team is, but has a chance to be a good player 

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4 minutes ago, hawk said:

Why does he not get any recognition?

Poise, accuracy, awareness, anticipation

Trade back, and yes please.

Or Smith at 2, Jones at 23? 😈

Not flashy enough. Reminds me of Alex Smith actually.  

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Mac Jones’ accuracy is phenomenal. I mentioned is drafting him in another thread and I got slaughtered. 

If he’s there at 23, we have to take him. 

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I feel like he is going to be the typical solid mid to late first round quarterback. The top three QBs are going to go to trash teams and he’s going to go to a quality team, sit for a couple years and come out and perform better than all of them, while everyone calls the top three busts despite the fact their offensive lines couldn’t stop a nose bleed.

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13 minutes ago, Ghost said:

Mac Jones’ accuracy is phenomenal. I mentioned is drafting him in another thread and I got slaughtered. 

If he’s there at 23, we have to take him. 

He may very well still be there at 23. The combine will determine where he "fits" in the draft. He certainly improved his draft stock tonite. 

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17 games started. Absolutely ******* not.

Worth noting that the Jets have a recent and fairly consistent history of ignoring experience (Sanchez, Hackenberg, Darnold) with drafting quarterbacks early and it bites them in the ass every time, so I'm sure they're considering him.

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3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

17 games started. Absolutely ******* not.

Worth noting that the Jets have a recent and fairly consistent history of ignoring experience (Sanchez, Hackenberg, Darnold) with drafting quarterbacks early and it bites them in the ass every time, so I'm sure they're considering him.

As opposed to Fields and his 22-23 starts? 6 games is that much of a deal breaker? 

FWIW here are their career stats minus tonight's game. 

Mac Jones outdid Fields in virtually every category and he did it in 4 less games. If you were to add those 4 games in to Mac Jones career, he would absolutely destroy Fields in every category, including TDs. 

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4 minutes ago, JTJet said:

As opposed to Fields and his 22-23 starts? 6 games is that much of a deal breaker? 

FWIW here are their career stats minus tonight's game. 

Mac Jones outdid Fields in virtually every category and he did it in 4 less games. If you were to add those 4 games in to Mac Jones career, he would absolutely destroy Fields in every category, including TDs. 

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6 games is more than half of a season in a normal year and for some teams like Ohio State that's literally the full year in 2020, so yeah kinda. I think the threshold for the dropoff for conventional numbers is something like 25 and measures like QBASE put a heavy emphasis on sustained success over multiple years. 

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2 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

6 games is more than half of a season in a normal year and for some teams like Ohio State that's literally the full year in 2020, so yeah kinda. I think the threshold for the dropoff for conventional numbers is something like 25 and measures like QBASE put a heavy emphasis on sustained success over multiple years. 

That's a fair point. I'm just saying that if anyone is basing their opinions off of analytics of how many games a college player starts in, then dont forget to view what's right there in front of us as well, and in front of us is Mac Jones putting up better numbers against tougher competition, and doing it consistently. 

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5 minutes ago, JTJet said:

That's a fair point. I'm just saying that if anyone is basing their opinions off of analytics of how many games a college player starts in, then dont forget to view what's right there in front of us as well, and in front of us is Mac Jones putting up better numbers against tougher competition, and doing it consistently. 

Statistical predictors of success are rooted in probability and sometimes the improbable happens (i.e. Josh Allen) but the one thing we are absolutely sure of is that the two most reliable indicators of player success for QB prospects are games started first and completion percentage second. Maybe Jones is the second coming of Namath and if his conventional numbers are better than Fields this year that's fine, but the dataset isn't large enough to ensure reliability and validity. To even distinguish the better of the two you need full datasets and for Jones it is not there. That's why games started matters before the other stuff.

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1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Statistical predictors of success are rooted in probability and sometimes the improbable happens (i.e. Josh Allen) but the one thing we are absolutely sure of is that the two most reliable indicators of player success for QB prospects are games started and completion percentage. Maybe Jones is the second coming of Namath and if his conventional numbers are better than Fields this year that's fine, but the dataset isn't large enough to ensure reliability and validity. To even distinguish the better of the two you need full datasets and for Jones it is not there.

I'm going to pretend I understood that. 😂

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7 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

Not flashy enough. Reminds me of Alex Smith actually.  

Alex Smith ran for 600 yards and 10TD’s his last year in college. Mac Jones can barely get out of the pocket.

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6 hours ago, Ghost said:

Mac Jones’ accuracy is phenomenal. I mentioned is drafting him in another thread and I got slaughtered. 

If he’s there at 23, we have to take him. 

Sewell at 2 and Jones or some other QB like Lance at 23

 

Give Sam some competition in TC and preseason next year while we try to build an actual NFL roster

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6 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

17 games started. Absolutely ******* not.

Worth noting that the Jets have a recent and fairly consistent history of ignoring experience (Sanchez, Hackenberg, Darnold) with drafting quarterbacks early and it bites them in the ass every time, so I'm sure they're considering him.

Hackenberg started 38 games in college...

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It’s almost impossible to scout Jones. He’s looked great all year but that team is so stacked. D. smith was wide open all game and Harris requires a ton of attention. It won’t be so easy in the nfl. I can’t remember many good quarterbacks coming out recently with so so arms and no mobility who were good. I think it’s too big of a risk.


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1 hour ago, k-met57 said:

Alex Smith ran for 600 yards and 10TD’s his last year in college. Mac Jones can barely get out of the pocket.

I was referring to how he played as a pro. Alex was mobile but not really a scrambling QB. 

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He looks pretty good, though he obviously had a lot of help on that Alabama team.

Still, he looks calm, gets the ball out quickly, and appears to be an ascending talent.

Only 17 starts though.

No idea how high he will go.

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29 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

How would he be without devonta smith and facing nfl cbs and edge rushers 

Guys were wide open after Smith went out & he hit them. Bama is just stacked. 

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everyone says he is a statue but he looked great last night. a few scrambles here and there. 

 

Im not gonna lie. I think mac might be the most overlooked player in the draft. getting beaten down for being big n slow? A qb isnt really supposed to run. thats a newer concept that came about just because some guy can. This guy is cool as a cucumber and deadly accurate . He kinda reminds me of big ben and thats not a bad thing

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