GreenFish Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Sit back, wait for all these cuts to take place and go shopping. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Tranquilo said: Fisher would be great, but I don't think he'll move to RT. And it seems like Schwartz will retire. F it, move Becton to RT. Fisher would be an awesome get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: That’s ridiculous especially after we just saw how they did without those 2 guys in the Super Bowl. Fisher is still only 30 and elite. I would love to give him a contract and put him on the right side of the line. Douglas is in an enviable position with all this cap room Fisher popped his achilles. How much can he even play next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Man, the pile of spare parts keeps growing. Legit players though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, PS17 said: The league has to fix the salary cap to a degree. Maybe when you resign homegrown players, have it only count 50% toward the cap. It’s ludicrous that these teams who find franchise quarterbacks and build great teams around them immediately have to dismantle them within a few years to fit under the cap. I agree, but you also have to take into account how crazy the salaries have become for NFL players. The middle class fan is already being cut out from attending professional sporting events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSIDE Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 U guys are forgetting they have a very good tackle on the roster who opted out this year to help with the pandemic. Tardiff? They just need to replace the other guy. They will be just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, prime21 said: I'm hoping behind the scenes that JD predicted last year that the cap would be much lower in 2021 and knew not to spend their money on big contracts. Two steps ahead! There's no doubt about this. https://nypost.com/2020/09/08/joe-douglas-explains-jets-lack-of-spending/ Quote The Jets enter the season with $31 million in salary-cap space, according to Over The Cap. Only the Browns and Patriots have more. Fans may wonder, why not spend that money to improve the 2020 team? But general manager Joe Douglas said the Jets have a long-term plan and they want to maintain flexibility for next year and beyond. Any cap space not used this year rolls over into next year and 2021 has a lot of uncertainty around it because of the financial repercussions of COVID-19 and the lack of fans in the stands. “We see it as a dollar you spend today could be a dollar you don’t have for next year’s cap,” Douglas said. “We’re sitting here and we have a lot of uncertainly in terms of next year’s cap number. We know what the floor is at 175 [million dollars]. We know that that could change. We don’t know when we’ll have the answers for that. We have to have a game plan on how we’re going to handle both this year and next year and the years moving forward.” Douglas made one thing clear: The lack of spending is not because of any directive from ownership. “I’m not bound to any restrictions when it comes to ownership,” Douglas said. “There’s been reports out there. I have full autonomy when it comes to roster decisions. I work hand-in-hand with Dave Socie from football administration on salary cap. Basically, we have a vision, we have a game plan of what we’re trying to accomplish. We want to have the right flexibility when the right player presents itself, the right opportunity, we are going to be aggressive. I’m sure it may seem like we’re not doing that right now but we do have a vision.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, DonCorleone said: I agree, but you also have to take into account how crazy the salaries have become for NFL players. The middle class fan is already being cut out from attending professional sporting events. I get it, but the NFL is a money printing machine and the players are more than entitled to getting their cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, chad2coles said: Eric Fisher tore his achilles in the AFC Championship game. He's like 320 and 6'7. How long is going to take for him to get back on the field? They wouldn't cut him if they thought they could count on him for next year. I want no part of an OL coming off a torn Achilles. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: That’s ridiculous especially after we just saw how they did without those 2 guys in the Super Bowl. Fisher is still only 30 and elite. I would love to give him a contract and put him on the right side of the line. Douglas is in an enviable position with all this cap room Schwartz just had back surgery after missing 10 games and the super bowl. He may be retiring 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, fullblast said: F it, move Becton to RT. Fisher would be an awesome get. Fisher is done. That’s why he got cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, NOSIDE said: U guys are forgetting they have a very good tackle on the roster who opted out this year to help with the pandemic. Tardiff? They just need to replace the other guy. They will be just fine Tardiff is a guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Either way not good for the jets. OL guys will want to sign with KC for a ring not with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, HighPitch said: Either way not good for the jets. OL guys will want to sign with KC for a ring not with us So draft Sewell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSIDE Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Whoops. Ur right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Either way not good for the jets. OL guys will want to sign with KC for a ring not with us KC has no cap space, that’s why they released these guys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: And as the cap climbs up to $300+ mil in the next 5 years, the deal looks awfully different I guess the Hunt family like Jerry are gambling on that new TV contract ...it was a much slower jump over the last fifteen years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gangrene said: I guess the Hunt family like Jerry are gambling on that new TV contract ...it was a much slower jump over the last fifteen years The new TV deal is predicted to blow these numbers out. For all the doom and gloom predictions by a handful, football is good business and still is like printing money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerVick1980 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, nycdan said: KC's top 7 players account for about $130M against the cap. That's really top-loaded. And there isn't an easy out for them that I can see other than maybe trading Mathieu who is in the last year of his contract and would save them $14.8M. It wouldn't shock me to see that happen. I'm assuming Hill, Kelce, Clark and Jones are untouchable. If not, then their window is closing faster than I had imagined. And that’s with Hill being extremely underpaid because he’s a scumbag off the field.. With Mahomes they’ll always be in the hunt and dangerous but a hard cap basically makes it to where your window is only a few years because eventually the cap will ravage your team.. Patriots were the exception because Brady took less money every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 56 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Fisher is done. That’s why he got cut Ugh forgot about the Achilles tear. Yeah, probably best to stay away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Either way not good for the jets. OL guys will want to sign with KC for a ring not with us And how will KC have money to sign significant FA's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, PS17 said: The league has to fix the salary cap to a degree. Maybe when you resign homegrown players, have it only count 50% toward the cap. It’s ludicrous that these teams who find franchise quarterbacks and build great teams around them immediately have to dismantle them within a few years to fit under the cap. Uh, that is WHY THERE IS A CAP. It is to keep teams from building a dynasty because they can afford to spend more. And look how well it has worked. Take away Brady and the Cheats, and how many super bowl repeats have you seen since the salary cap came into existence? Giving a team like KC an out to keep all the high cost players gives them an unfair advantage. They won a super bowl and had a chance at two in a row. Too bad if they have to cut some players now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, chad2coles said: There isn't going to be a big trade market for players with large cap hits. There are only a few teams that aren't up against the cap. But after these new TV contracts are signed, the cap is going to go up real fast. It had already gone up about $10M/year. I wouldn't be surprised to see it shoot up $25M next year. $25M??? According to reports I've heard the TV revenue could double under the new contracts. That means the cap could theoretically double, or close to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, prime21 said: I'm hoping behind the scenes that JD predicted last year that the cap would be much lower in 2021 and knew not to spend their money on big contracts. Two steps ahead! I don't think it had anything to do with JD expecting the cap to drop. I think JD knew he had to clean up the cap mess MacMoron left him. He demanded a 6 year contract for a reason. A year or two to clean up the mess, two to three years to build a contender, and then a new long-term contract in year 6 when the Jets are perennial contenders. I'm guessing that was more likely his plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, viffer said: $25M??? According to reports I've heard the TV revenue could double under the new contracts. That means the cap could theoretically double, or close to it. They spread the covid related losses over this season and the next 2, which they needed to do. So that will suppress how high the cap can go next year. Also, most of the TV deals run through next season. But new TV deals, 17 game season, potentially having fans in the stands again, the cap is going to really spike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: QBs demand 100 million bucks and take up huge cap for a team. A year or two later QBs and media blast teams for not retaining talent. QBs demand to be GMs Qb demand to be traded NFL is becoming the nauseatingly awful NBA very quickly. This is probably why you see teams starting to say things like "Maybe a big time QB isn't the answer, but a system guy" Trying to take some of that NBA star shine off the QB's start acting like GMs all over the place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, thebuzzardman said: This is probably why you see teams starting to say things like "Maybe a big time QB isn't the answer, but a system guy" Trying to take some of that NBA star shine off the QB's start acting like GMs all over the place. What team is saying this? Ryan Tannehill is a system QB and he got a huge contract. Every starting QB that signs a new deal is getting paid big money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 This is a bold strategy after watching what happened in the Super Bowl without them. Educated guess: Fisher ends up in Indianapolis. They have a need and there's a lot of connective tissue between the organizations 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, football guy said: This is a bold strategy after watching what happened in the Super Bowl without them. Educated guess: Fisher ends up in Indianapolis. They have a need and there's a lot of connective tissue between the organizations haha, i think the issue is the connective tissue between fisher's foot and his leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, chad2coles said: Eric Fisher tore his achilles in the AFC Championship game. He's like 320 and 6'7. How long is going to take for him to get back on the field? They wouldn't cut him if they thought they could count on him for next year. This is the point. His injury is serious, and Schwartz will probably retire. THAT said....Man, I would bet KC would LOVE to move up in the draft and get Sewell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Cuts keep coming - Reiter was pretty good according to PFF at least... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: This is the point. His injury is serious, and Schwartz will probably retire. THAT said....Man, I would bet KC would LOVE to move up in the draft and get Sewell. Their roster for our roster plus #2 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerVick1980 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, thebuzzardman said: This is probably why you see teams starting to say things like "Maybe a big time QB isn't the answer, but a system guy" Trying to take some of that NBA star shine off the QB's start acting like GMs all over the place. Yeah I don’t see any team taking that stance.. That’s why you see teams like the Niners trying to upgrade at Qb because of how hard it is to win it all with an average or mediocre QB.. Watson isn’t leaving simply because he couldn’t be gm or make decisions he’s leaving because they lied to him and have handed the keys of the franchise over to a pastor/ swindler who’s running it into the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Bungaman said: And how will KC have money to sign significant FA's? They still have to replace them. people will play for less $$$$$ if a ring is probable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 10 hours ago, SAR I said: If Joe Douglas continues to not spend money the Jets won't ever have this problem. SAR I Bring Gaze back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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