Training Camp Tweets - (Previous Days Merged)

[Jet Nut]

6 hours ago, sourceworx said:

 

Is it good when the only highlight by your QB is a TD reception? 

[Lith]

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

The only problem today was that the Trainiing Camp thread title had three "i's" in it

there's no I in team 

but there's three in trainiing camp  

Positive Vibes Only 

 

II just notiiced that.  After several references to iit thiis morniing.  Had no iidea what folks were talkiing about. 

Who knew?  II fat fiingered traiining camp.

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

Is it good when the only highlight by your QB is a TD reception? 

 

[Jet Nut]

9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

Point out the signature pass, that pass that makes you say, yes. 
Let’s face it, he’s a backup QB who was grossly overlooked by the Bengals 

[Jetsfan80]

45 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Point out the signature pass, that pass that makes you say, yes. 
Let’s face it, he’s a backup QB who was grossly overlooked by the Bengals 

Show me the Zach Wilson 400 yards in a victory highlight tape. Or any Jets QB since Namath for that matter.

Why do Zach defenders go out of their way to rip on the QB3?  Makes little sense.  He’s a Jet and I’ve been told we’re supposed to support all Jets players here.  

[Charlie Brown]

3 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Bastard!!  Lol

Ahhhhh forum posting as it outta be!

 

[SickJetFan]

I was all for Darnold draft.  Man I was sold watching those bowl clips of his and even after 1st and 2nd season I thought he could still put it together (or hoped).  I was all in on the trade tho by but even then you could never really be 100% sure Darnold might put it together and become a good QB. Panthers invested 20million because they were not sure either...well i think they were sure they could make him good i guess

With Zach I was all for drafting him based on the choices.  He checks a lot of boxes, unquestioned arm, moxie to deal with NY media, hard worker (it seems but I dont know that for sure as he may be playing minecraft in film room for all I know or watchin pornhub milfs on his phone in bathroom but I digress)

He definitely checks all the boxes and he was not drafted into ideal situation to say the least, in fact I do not believe many QB would have survived the beating he took in Charlotte - the OL was amateur bad, so was the coaching all around, 6 passes dropped, no running game, and free runners planting Zachs face in dirt about 6 to 8 times but I thought he responded well to all that in that game and rallied towards the end.  However, I do think he was a bit shell shocked to that "hello to NFL the hard way" and I think it showed in next games maybe even shattered some confidence like JETS do to QBs.... but who knows.

I'm clueless as to whether he put it together or not.  If he does it will be fun season.  If he doesn't it will be a long 3 years.  I hope he makes it.

 

[doitny]

7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Three QBs threw for 250 yards against that Bills defense last year: Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, and Mike White

how many threw 4 INTs? i know one guy who did

[varjet]

8 hours ago, johnnysd said:

Cager not making the team would frankly be shocking at this point barring injury

Based on what we have seen so far, notwithstanding his signing bonus is Yeboah making the team over Cager?  I think not.  

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, slats said:

In a world where Zach was instructed to simply not turn the ball over, he did a fine job.

This is sh*t you say about Luke Falk. He was 7 for 20 for 87 yards, and 40 of those yards came on a broken coverage on a crossing route to Keelan Cole. He had 19 pass attempts for 47 yards otherwise, which you would have gotten if you started your average punter at QB. But, hey, the Bills defense was, by every metric, #1 against the pass, so we shouldn’t hold it against Zach. The same way we shouldn’t hold it against Mike White.

[Creepy Lurker]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

This is sh*t you say about Luke Falk. He was 7 for 20 for 87 yards, and 40 of those yards came on a broken coverage on a crossing route to Keelan Cole. He had 19 pass attempts for 47 yards otherwise, which you would have gotten if you started your average punter at QB. But, hey, the Bills defense was, by every metric, #1 against the pass, so we shouldn’t hold it against Zach. The same way we shouldn’t hold it against Mike White.

You are so getting censored.

[playtowinthegame]

9 hours ago, sourceworx said:

 

Best of times man. Thank you Mike White.

[slats]

8 hours ago, T0mShane said:

He was 7 for 20 for 87 yards, and 40 of those yards came on a broken coverage on a crossing route to Keelan Cole.

280 of Mike White’s passing yards against Cincinnati were YAC. 

[Bronx]

12 hours ago, slats said:

Peyton Manning was an actor?

[Ghost420]

I can't wait for Mike White to be off this team. 

[FidelioJet]

4 minutes ago, Ghost420 said:

I can't wait for Mike White to be off this team. 

Just hold tight for a few more weeks.  Even if he wasn't about to be cut as the #3 QB - he'll likely to fall to #4 soon, as Strevelar passes him on the depth chart.

[OilfieldJet]

19 hours ago, johnnysd said:

Michael Carter has the charisma of 10 men. He is so awesome.

 

 

He grabs the guys mike, a natural.

[JustInFudge]

Its weird what people fixate on w/ White.  Bengals fluke, Bills is the real White but there is nothing in between for many people who are adverse to Mike White maybe possibly being good.  As a neutral fan who couldnt give a **** who the QB is, as long as they play well, I find this odd.  There is just as much more evidence that White is better than Wilson as there is that he is not, which is fine to recognize but also acknowledging the fact that this season/team is all about Wilson.

FWIW, and I dont know how many people remember this drive, it seems long forgotten in the context of Mike White but the best drive I saw from any Jets QB all last season, was when Mike White answered the Colts opening drive w/ a quick TD on the next series...and then the most telling part of whole Mike White saga was the entire team running up to him while he was being looked at dying to know if he was getting back in the game.   I havent seen that type of excitement and energy from a Jets offense since Fitz.

Weird how this long goes ignored in the context of White's performance last year.

[T0mShane]

36 minutes ago, slats said:

280 of Mike White’s passing yards against Cincinnati were YAC. 

The offense is designed to produce YAC. You know who led the league last year in YAC per completion? Jimmy Garoppolo. If Zach wasn’t consistently throwing passes that only Omar Vizquel could field cleanly, he would have been the beneficiary of a lot of YAC from his receivers, too. Instead, all of his receivers ended up on IR

[FidelioJet]

9 hours ago, T0mShane said:

This is sh*t you say about Luke Falk. He was 7 for 20 for 87 yards, and 40 of those yards came on a broken coverage on a crossing route to Keelan Cole. He had 19 pass attempts for 47 yards otherwise, which you would have gotten if you started your average punter at QB. But, hey, the Bills defense was, by every metric, #1 against the pass, so we shouldn’t hold it against Zach. The same way we shouldn’t hold it against Mike White.

This is ridiculous and you know it.

I can't even believe I'm arguing with you about this - but others don't realize you're just trolling, so I need to be clear.

1st - the Jets team was absolutely decimated at WR, OL and RB - he was throwing to guys that weren't even in the league a couple of days before.  And had guys like Chuma Edoga blocking for him.  Note - the already awful defense was decimated as well.

2nd - The wind that day was terrible, pushing the ball down field was very hard to do - especially against the leagues best past D without WR's that were capable of getting ANY separation.  Similar weather conditions to when your hero Mac Jones threw a total of 3 passes for 19 yards in Buffalo.

The fact that he didn't throw in the towel, start forcing the ball and throw multiple int's all while managing to keep them in the game until late into the 4th quarter was a testament to his character and yes, growth.

[FidelioJet]

16 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

It weird what people fixate on w/ White.  Bengals fluke, Bills is the real White but there is nothing in between for many people who are adverse to Mike White maybe possibly being good.  As a neutral fan who couldnt give a **** who the QB is, as long as they play well, I find this odd.  There is just as much more evidence that White is better than Wilson as there is that he is not, which is fine to recognize but also acknowledging that that this season/team is all about Wilson.

FWIW, and I dont know how many people remember this drive, it seems long forgotten in the context of Mike White but the best drive I saw from any Jets QB all last season, was when Mike White answered the Colts opening drive w/ a quick TD on the next series...and then the most telling part of whole Mike White saga was the entire team running up to him while he was being looked at dying to know if he was getting back in the game.   I havent seen that type of excitement and energy from a Jets offense since Fitz.

Weird how this long goes ignored in the context of White's performance last year.

My biggest issues with Mike White is not his performance in the Buffalo game - it that he's now a 5th year pro and basically hasn't been able to pass 3rd string on a depth chart (even on the Jets when he was second - it kinda wasn't real, as soon as Zach got hurt they went and traded for Flacco - White wasn't trusted to fill in).  

Coaches do in fact look at players skill-sets and want to have good ones play.  These guys see him every day and know his capabilities far more than we can from two games.  

What they see is a third string QB.

Moreover, in league circles they talk - no other team was interested in White as their back-up as well.  They could have easily signed him, but chose not to.

Mike White is what he is - a third string NFL QB - that caught lighting in a bottle one week.  

[T0mShane]

43 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

This is ridiculous and you know it.

I can't even believe I'm arguing with you about this - but others don't realize you're just trolling, so I need to be clear.

1st - the Jets team was absolutely decimated at WR, OL and RB - he was throwing to guys that weren't even in the league a couple of days before.  And had guys like Chuma Edoga blocking for him.  Note - the already awful defense was decimated as well.

2nd - The wind that day was terrible, pushing the ball down field was very hard to do - especially against the leagues best past D without WR's that were capable of getting ANY separation.  Similar weather conditions to when your hero Mac Jones threw a total of 3 passes for 19 yards in Buffalo.

The fact that he didn't throw in the towel, start forcing the ball and throw multiple int's all while managing to keep them in the game until late into the 4th quarter was a testament to his character and yes, growth.

Ok. I was responding directly to a person who said that Mike White struggling against the Bills defense was proof he can’t play. 

[T0mShane]

48 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

and then the most telling part of whole Mike White saga was the entire team running up to him while he was being looked at dying to know if he was getting back in the game. 

Watch the two Matt Judon hits against Zach Wilson in the Pats game. His team leaves him on the ground both times. 

[FidelioJet]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Ok. I was responding directly to a person who said that Mike White struggling against the Bills defense was proof he can’t play. 

BTW.  I agree with this - Mike White struggling against that defense in his second ever NFL start isn't something Jet fans or the Jet organization should really hold against him. 

[JustInFudge]

3 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

My biggest issues with Mike White is not his performance in the Buffalo game - it that he's now a 5th year pro and basically hasn't been able to pass 3rd string on a depth chart (even on the Jets when he was second - it kinda wasn't real, as soon as Zach got hurt they went and traded for Flacco - White wasn't trusted to fill in).  

Coaches do in fact look at players skill-sets and want to have good ones play.  These guys see him every day and know his capabilities far more than we can from two games.  

What they see is a third string QB.

Moreover, in league circles they talk - no other team was interested in White as their back-up as well.  They could have easily signed him, but chose not to.

Mike White is what he is - a third string NFL QB - that caught lighting in a bottle one week.  

Yeah see, like, this is my point.  None of this is accurate and it's completely fabricated to fit your view point.

The Jets signed Flacco on Oct 25th.  The day after Zach was injured, the starting QB the next 3 weeks was Mike White, meaning they 100% trusted him to fill in w/ a wily veteran in Josh Johnson as the back up.  They didnt even activate Flacco till the Buffalo game and yet still trotted out White as the starter.  Further, the Jets first move in FA was to tender White because they didnt want to lose him for nothing.  Now sure, maybe a team hasnt offered his 5th round pick for his services but I dont see why a team would do that right now anyway.  And then your last comment is the icing on the cake, "one week", yet, I referenced the Colts game and the drive before he got injured being the best drive of any QB last season.

Look, it's cool, you do what you want, spin it however you feel.  I'm just pointing out the silliness in which people treat the situation. 

 

[FidelioJet]

6 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

Yeah see, like, this is my point.  None of this is accurate and it's completely fabricated to fit your view point.

The Jets signed Flacco on Oct 25th.  The day after Zach was injured, the starting QB the next 3 weeks was Mike White, meaning they 100% trusted him to fill in w/ a wily veteran in Josh Johnson as the back up.  They didnt even activate Flacco till the Buffalo game and yet still trotted out White as the starter.  Further, the Jets first move in FA was to tender White because they didnt want to lose him for nothing.  Now sure, maybe a team hasnt offered his 5th round pick for his services but I dont see why a team would do that right now anyway.  And then your last comment is the icing on the cake, "one week", yet, I referenced the Colts game and the drive before he got injured being the best drive of any QB last season.

Look, it's cool, you do what you want, spin it however you feel.  I'm just point out the silliness in which people treat the situation. 

 

Stop.

Flacco was signed the day after Zach was hurt - as you acknowledged AND the the Jets were very clear that he was brought in to start - but didn't have time get him ramped up on the playbook.  White had that Bengals game, so rolled with him.  Who can blame them.  But they didn't have faith in him as a back up.

As a testament to prove this point they kept Flacco and still have White 3rd on the depth chart.  

This isn't a narrative, it's a reality.  Mike White is a 3rd string QB in the NFL.  He had a moment in the sun that gave all of us Jet fans something to cheer in an otherwise dismal season - As a fan I'll always be grateful to him for it...

But that doesn't change the reality of who is he.

[Sammybighead]

Guys, Zach was a rookie. ROOKIE. He was supposed to stink last year. News flash, he’ll probably stink part of this year as well.

Can we please give this kid some, any, time before we judge him?

 

[JustInFudge]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

Stop.

Flacco was signed the day after Zach was hurt - as you acknowledged AND the the Jets were very clear that he was brought in to start - but didn't have time get him ramped up on the playbook.  White had that Bengals game, so rolled with him.  Who can blame them.  But they didn't have faith in him as a back up.

As a testament to prove this point they kept Flacco and still have White 3rd on the depth chart.  

This isn't a narrative, it's a reality.  Mike White is a 3rd string QB in the NFL.  He had a moment in the sun that gave all of us Jet fans something to cheer in an otherwise dismal season - As a fan I'll always be grateful to him for it...

But that doesn't change the reality of who is he.

They started Mike White for 3 straight weeks after signing Joe Flacco.  Why are you lying to yourself?

 

[jbt]

16 hours ago, IndianaJet said:

 

 

yes you can dance with my date

[Irktusk1957]

28 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

Guys, Zach was a rookie. ROOKIE. He was supposed to stink last year. News flash, he’ll probably stink part of this year as well.

Can we please give this kid some, any, time before we judge him?

 

Oh you in trouble now...  

[FidelioJet]

44 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

They started Mike White for 3 straight weeks after signing Joe Flacco.  Why are you lying to yourself?

 

You win.  The Jets love Mike White as does the rest of the NFL.  It's also clear - even though the Jets said otherwise - they really brought in Joe Flacco, a day after Zach Wilson got hurt, to back up Mike White - but chose to lie to the fan base.

And now for some inexplicable and almost surely nefarious reasons, they have him behind Flacco on the depth chart.  Even though he's really the best QB on the roster.

[nycdan]

26 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

You win.  The Jets love Mike White as does the rest of the NFL.  It's also clear - even though the Jets said otherwise - they really brought in Joe Flacco, a day after Zach Wilson got hurt, to back up Mike White - but chose to lie to the fan base.

And now for some inexplicable and almost surely nefarious reasons, they have him behind Flacco on the depth chart.  Even though he's really the best QB on the roster.

It's all part of the plan of misdirection.  BAL prepares for Flacco.  Then just before the Jets offense takes the field for the first drive, LaFleur calls down and...

 

[Jet Nut]

13 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Show me the Zach Wilson 400 yards in a victory highlight tape. Or any Jets QB since Namath for that matter.

Why do Zach defenders go out of their way to rip on the QB3?  Makes little sense.  He’s a Jet and I’ve been told we’re supposed to support all Jets players here.  

I can think of a few.  So can you.  Bigger question, what does ZW have to do with a MW signature pass?  
O’Brian had more than a few huge passing days.  Without the help of the new NFL passing rules.  
Im not going out of my way to do anything.  MW is a 5th year vet who has never been a 3rd string QB at best who is hanging on to be that again.  Don’t get how that’s a rip.  While it’s perfectly acceptable for the MW dream crew to rip our number 1 QB while he is trying to learn the game.  

 

[Jetsfan80]

6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

I can think of a few.  So can you.  Bigger question, what does ZW have to do with a MW signature pass?  
O’Brian had more than a few huge passing days.  Without the help of the new NFL passing rules.  
Im not going out of my way to do anything.  MW is a 5th year vet who has never been a 3rd string QB at best who is hanging on to be that again.  Don’t get how that’s a rip.  While it’s perfectly acceptable for the MW dream crew to rip our number 1 QB while he is trying to learn the game.  

 

I dunno, you tell me.  Any time someone praises Mike White for something he did legitimately well last year it seems someone is right there with some silly criticism.  

[56mehl56]

10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I dunno, you tell me.  Any time someone praises Mike White for something he did legitimately well last year it seems someone is right there with some silly criticism.  

Hmm what other player does that apply to - rhymes with Crack.