Pac Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, oatmeal said: I’m hoping this is it because if not, damn it says a lot about just the simple common sense skills of this org Nothing to blame the org over yet. They took their shot. Now if they really don't have the answer and wait around all week missing out on Garrapolo only to see Rodgers retire... then it's open season on JD. He's not going to let that happen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: I can think of no better athlete to vouch for the welcoming arms of the New York metro area than Julius Randle. How about starting with a POS like Kyrie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Anyone know if he’s scheduled for McAfee today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Not sure about that but, if he wins the Super Bowl for us, I predict the Jets will retire #12. NY Yankees retired #8 twice Yogi Berra and Bill Dickie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 This Rodgers guy is really a pathological narcissist. I can’t think of any reason why this has lasted this long. The Jets need to move on at noon with the top bid for Jimmy G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillyjet Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 pretty agnostic at this point. Folks will bemoan SOJ if we don't get him, but sometimes the path not taken ends up being better. So we resign Mike White, maybe draft a Hendon Hooker or Tanner McKee in the second round. Whose to say that doesn't pay dividends down the road? Would be great to have Rodgers for a year or two, but we were already screwed the moment Zach went bust... we're just gonna have to find another way to climb out of that hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Our time is coming. Have faith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Only thing that makes sense to me at this stage is he has told our FO that he will join them (just stay quiet on it). And he's on purpose waiting until the last minute just to screw with GB one last time. Still pissed at them for drafting Love and trading Adams. Not saying it will happen, but has anyone considered they might just be waiting to announce it either 1. the start of the tampering period today at noon or 2. the start of official free agency? Marketing and media is a thing, if the Jets make this deal, they want to own the newscycle for a bit. Again, who knows, it could all be done days ago, or all be total sh*t as some of your think. We'll know soon enough either way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Anyone know if he’s scheduled for McAfee today? Hey there!!!! Welcome to this board. I've always liked what you do over on the FFToday board. Stick around. You're posts are always solid as well as mod work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Warfish said: Cash Pay, no. Cap hit, I believe yes, to some degree. The Packers face a $68M cap charge if they cut Rodgers before June 1 but -don’t worry!- they can knock that all the way down to $43M if they designate it post-June 1. If he retires, it’s a $40M cap hit that they can split over this year and next. If he’s traded, they still eat that $40M but the cap charge is only $8.6M this year. The Packers really want a trade to happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 hours ago, SR24 said: He’s maintained he doesn’t want to drag it out yet 11 hours before free agency starts we have no answers. Kinda ridiculous to do exactly what you say you’re not gonna do lol How do you even know it’s Rodgers dragging it out? How do you know it’s not the Jets and Packers working out all the parameters of the trade? Or the Jets and Rodgers trying to rework his deal? You don’t, we don’t. Have no idea what the start of FA has to do with it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Dcat said: Hey there!!!! Welcome to this board. I've always liked what you do over on the FFToday board. Stick around. You're posts are always solid as well as mod work. Thanks man!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, ptisme said: If there’s one thing I’ve learned from all of this? If I ever feel I need clarity in my life, I won’t waste my money on a darkness retreat. Sitting in the dark is the perfect way for a future Jet QB to prepare for arrival. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: How do you even know it’s Rodgers dragging it out? How do you know it’s not the Jets and Packers working out all the parameters of the trade? Or the Jets and Rodgers trying to rework his deal? You don’t, we don’t. Have no idea what the start of FA has to do with it. We don't know anything for sure, but it does seem to be what everyone is hearing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Vader said: This is good. Nobody calls it Clinton to be sure. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-westies_tj-english/283796/item/683105/?mkwid=|dc&pcrid=76897273066016&pkw=&pmt=be&slid=&product=683105&plc=&pgrid=1230353808544773&ptaid=pla-4580496735976154&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping+-+High+Vol+Frontlist+-+%2410+-+%2450&utm_term=&utm_content=|dc|pcrid|76897273066016|pkw||pmt|be|product|683105|slid||pgrid|1230353808544773|ptaid|pla-4580496735976154|&msclkid=3cbc7a38c6781ca797e71e37ed6f4b1a#idiq=683105&edition=3802639 This book was the basis for the movie. Good friend of mine was playing softball centerfield one summer day in the late 1970s/early 1980s on West Side of Manhattan when one of these killers got drunk and decided to walk on the field. My friend tells him to go eff himself and get off the field. Drunk killer tells him "I'm gonna get you. Do you know I am?". My pal (would eventually go from being a lineman to become chief counsel for Con Ed) had no idea, but found out and for about a week was expecting to get shot in the head until somebody reached out to the boss and explained their boy was drunken buffoon and my friend was no threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 59 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @jgb 58 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I can’t say deep down I don’t more or less want this for him. Gimme Minshew and Mike Evans for a schwing so epic that many here may lose an eye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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doitny Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Warfish said: I have no idea, I'm not in the room as these decisions get made. But I don't see anything that tells me your conjecture is anything more than that, projection. For all we know, JD is hardon for Rodgers, we can't know for sure. Funny enough, I've been waiting on the Zach Wilson narrative to start going this way too, that "Woody forced JD to pick Zach". Seems some folks just want to give JD a pass on bad decisions, while giving credit for the good ones. I'd say a GM who lets his owner force him to make bad decisions is a pretty bad GM, more of a neutered lapdog than a GM really. Is JD a neutered lapdog? . we know he loves draft picks so he would have them all with Carr. you get Carr for longer( 3-4 years) Plus we know that Rodgers demanded input in personal decisions in GB. i never heard of Carr making such demands. Carr ends the Zach Wilson era. signing Carr to that 3-4 year contract gives you time to draft his replacement. with Rodgers you have no choice but to draft one next year. whether you like anyone or not. and drafting QBs because we must hasnt worked out too well for us so far. with Rodgers 2025 will be Zach or a young nobody QB. 25 and 26 could very well be throw away years while we find a QB. we will be wasting the final years of GW, Hall, AVT and Sause. with Carr he would be the QB. Carr was the safer pick. JD is a football guy. he had to know that. this reeks of owner desperation. going all out for 2 years and then we bust. if i read the cap right we will be taking a 53 mil and 60 mil cap hit in 25 and 26 for a QB who wont even be here. and i never thought we were a QB away from a SB. we need more players and Carr would have gave us all our draft picks. plus there is a good chance that Rodgers is here for just one year. again Carr was the safer pick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, Warfish said: I'd say a GM who lets his owner force him to make bad decisions is a pretty bad GM, more of a neutered lapdog than a GM really. Is JD a neutered lapdog? Like any other job, GM's that go against their bosses wishes, get fired. That is a natural. And I am unsure what play Woody has in this, other than telling the fanbase himself that "We are going to get a veteran QB and this team is set in all other areas". So, now JD has to battle his owner not having egg on his face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Still don’t believe he follows in Favre’s footsteps. Imagine the next trip while realizing you’re essentially the same as the guy you replaced. Time is a flat circle. Or maybe this is the goal. But I wouldn’t count on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Vladimir: “He didn’t say for sure he’d come.” Estragon: “And if he doesn’t come?” Vladimir: “We’ll come back tomorrow.” Estragon: “And then the day after tomorrow.” Vladimir: “Possibly.” Estragon: “And so on.” Vladimir: “The point is—” Estragon: “Until he comes.” Vladimir: “You’re merciless.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, doitny said: . we know he loves draft picks so he would have them all with Carr. you get Carr for longer( 3-4 years) Plus we know that Rodgers demanded input in personal decisions in GB. i never heard of Carr making such demands. Carr ends the Zach Wilson era. signing Carr to that 3-4 year contract gives you time to draft his replacement. with Rodgers you have no choice but to draft one next year. whether you like anyone or not. and drafting QBs because we must hasnt worked out too well for us so far. with Rodgers 2025 will be Zach or a young nobody QB. 25 and 26 could very well be throw away years while we find a QB. we will be wasting the final years of GW, Hall, AVT and Sause. with Carr he would be the QB. Carr was the safer pick. JD is a football guy. he had to know that. this reeks of owner desperation. going all out for 2 years and then we bust. if i read the cap right we will be taking a 53 mil and 60 mil cap hit in 25 and 26 for a QB who wont even be here. and i never thought we were a QB away from a SB. we need more players and Carr would have gave us all our draft picks. plus there is a good chance that Rodgers is here for just one year. again Carr was the safer pick. You're right that Douglas is a football guy, and as a football guy he's able to see that Carr isn't very good. It's not all about money and being safe. He's trying to win a soup. And that's unlikely with Carr. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, doitny said: . we know he loves draft picks so he would have them all with Carr. you get Carr for longer( 3-4 years) Plus we know that Rodgers demanded input in personal decisions in GB. i never heard of Carr making such demands. Carr ends the Zach Wilson era. signing Carr to that 3-4 year contract gives you time to draft his replacement. with Rodgers you have no choice but to draft one next year. whether you like anyone or not. and drafting QBs because we must hasnt worked out too well for us so far. with Rodgers 2025 will be Zach or a young nobody QB. 25 and 26 could very well be throw away years while we find a QB. we will be wasting the final years of GW, Hall, AVT and Sause. with Carr he would be the QB. Carr was the safer pick. JD is a football guy. he had to know that. this reeks of owner desperation. going all out for 2 years and then we bust. if i read the cap right we will be taking a 53 mil and 60 mil cap hit in 25 and 26 for a QB who wont even be here. and i never thought we were a QB away from a SB. we need more players and Carr would have gave us all our draft picks. plus there is a good chance that Rodgers is here for just one year. again Carr was the safer pick. Carr would placate some of the fanbase but we weren't going to win any SBs with him, imo. AR is a desperation move but I like it. The goal isn't to go 9-8 and lose in the wildcard round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 23 hours ago, Dunnie said: I wonder if he will demand we bring the cheerleaders back as part of the deal. ??? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk There's really not much better in life than the female body 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bugg said: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-westies_tj-english/283796/item/683105/?mkwid=|dc&pcrid=76897273066016&pkw=&pmt=be&slid=&product=683105&plc=&pgrid=1230353808544773&ptaid=pla-4580496735976154&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping+-+High+Vol+Frontlist+-+%2410+-+%2450&utm_term=&utm_content=|dc|pcrid|76897273066016|pkw||pmt|be|product|683105|slid||pgrid|1230353808544773|ptaid|pla-4580496735976154|&msclkid=3cbc7a38c6781ca797e71e37ed6f4b1a#idiq=683105&edition=3802639 This book was the basis for the movie. Good friend of mine was playing softball centerfield one summer day in the late 1970s/early 1980s on West Side of Manhattan when one of these killers got drunk and decided to walk on the field. My friend tells him to go eff himself and get off the field. Drunk killer tells him "I'm gonna get you. Do you know I am?". My pal (would eventually go from being a lineman to become chief counsel for Con Ed) had no idea, but found out and for about a week was expecting to get shot in the head until somebody reached out to the boss and explained their boy was drunken buffoon and my friend was no threat. Love this stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 So Jimmy G is gonna sign somewhere in 2 hours and we’re still gonna be waiting on Rodgers lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Rhg1084 said: So Jimmy G is gonna sign somewhere in 2 hours and we’re still gonna be waiting on Rodgers lol Jacoby Brisket SZN gonna be mouthwatering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: How do you even know it’s Rodgers dragging it out? How do you know it’s not the Jets and Packers working out all the parameters of the trade? Or the Jets and Rodgers trying to rework his deal? You don’t, we don’t. Have no idea what the start of FA has to do with it. Trying to sell free agents on NYJ is significantly easier when you have Aaron Rodgers vs when you don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: How do you even know it’s Rodgers dragging it out? How do you know it’s not the Jets and Packers working out all the parameters of the trade? Or the Jets and Rodgers trying to rework his deal? You don’t, we don’t. Have no idea what the start of FA has to do with it. Well, we don't know it. But all reputable reporting is indicating that (with the source of that reporting likely being the Jets and Packers orgs.) So it certainly seems like the most likely scenario given the Jets and Packers have no reason to draw this out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, doitny said: Carr was the safer pick. JD is a football guy. he had to know that. Arguably, but he also has the lower ceiling. Rodgers was the league MVP in 2020 and 2021. Carr makes the pro bowl after other guys opt out. I know lamenting is super popular around here, but that ship has (thankfully) sailed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, slats said: Arguably, but he also has the lower ceiling. Rodgers was the league MVP in 2020 and 2021. Carr makes the pro bowl after other guys opt out. I know lamenting is super popular around here, but that ship has (thankfully) sailed. Doesn’t matter if Rodgers only sticks around for 1 year and you don’t win the SB. You lose assets and are in the same place again. JD is playing a high-stakes game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 When it becomes official, about 25 people are going to start a new thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, doitny said: . we know he loves draft picks so he would have them all with Carr. you get Carr for longer( 3-4 years) Plus we know that Rodgers demanded input in personal decisions in GB. i never heard of Carr making such demands. Carr ends the Zach Wilson era. signing Carr to that 3-4 year contract gives you time to draft his replacement. with Rodgers you have no choice but to draft one next year. whether you like anyone or not. and drafting QBs because we must hasnt worked out too well for us so far. with Rodgers 2025 will be Zach or a young nobody QB. 25 and 26 could very well be throw away years while we find a QB. we will be wasting the final years of GW, Hall, AVT and Sause. with Carr he would be the QB. Carr was the safer pick. JD is a football guy. he had to know that. this reeks of owner desperation. going all out for 2 years and then we bust. if i read the cap right we will be taking a 53 mil and 60 mil cap hit in 25 and 26 for a QB who wont even be here. and i never thought we were a QB away from a SB. we need more players and Carr would have gave us all our draft picks. plus there is a good chance that Rodgers is here for just one year. again Carr was the safer pick. I agree that Carr would have been a safer pick, but that line of reasoning assumes that Joe Douglas thinks like you and I. I submit to you that there is a reason he is a GM and you and I are not. He is obviously seeking to hit a home run here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: It's also called Clinton Hill. A lot of people in my office (Corcoran UWS) called it that. It's really Midtown West. From what I know Hells Kitchen was a name derived from the tough neighborhoods culinary attraction. The name has no connection anymore except for historical note. Never knew there were two Clinton hills! There’s a ton of history in the names of these neighborhoods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I expect this. Him to tell the Jets for sure before noon (nothing in public) and make it official to the public on McAfee today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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