Some inside info on Elijah Moore trade

[JETS SB]

At Barkley Center this evening, I was sitting in a suite with a few attorneys (I am an attorney, but you probably don’t care) and one is a player agent who preferred not to be mentioned. He said that since last year, after Elijah Moore demanded a trade, it was thought he came back to play and let go of his trade demand. This never happened. In fact, if you look into his twitter posts from that point on, he stressed bible verses about being disrespected and minimized by Jets coaching and management, not calling them out directly but subtly quoting certain passages and circling parts which mentioned those specific things. This has been a concern with the Jets management and once the Jets signed Allen Lazard and the OBJ rumors started up, he (not publicly this time) demanded to be traded again. Cleveland had made an offer early on and the Jets reconnected with them. A few other teams made lowball offers. Cleveland was the only team that would give us the 2nd.

The Jets felt that if it were leaked out that he had demanded a trade again, we would lose leverage and wouldn’t have even gotten what we did for him. The agent also told me Moore and Saleh were not on speaking terms from the time he asked for a trade midseason and then was sent home, until he was traded. MLF and Moore had talked and Moore apologized to him. 
 

I am just passing on the info. Don’t know how true it is. The agent also said the Jets, under JD, had been offered trades for many of their draft picks from 2020 and 2021 including Becton, Mims, and Moore (not Wilson apparently) and refused to engage, as their preference was to keep their young guys and not give up on them, but they were forced into a corner with Moore and had to get rid of him while they could still salvage a decent draft pick and before OTAs, where it was likely he wouldn’t have showed up.  

[Hex]

I wouldn't be surprised if he demanded a trade again, but it's still likely the Jets just needed other picks for a trade and decided Moore needed to go anyways.

[Vader]

He was shadow benched last year - running ghost routes. Dude is whack but Bob Saleh did him dirty

 

[Hal N of Provo]

Interesting stuff. 

The “not a single team called about Wilson” is directly contradicted by another message board insider on the BYU board. 

Right after the season they said Wilson’s agent was told by the Jets that were called by numerous teams who said if they decide to trade Wilson they would be interested.  The Jets supposedly were not interested in trading.

[Hal N of Provo]

4 minutes ago, Vader said:

He was shadow benched last year - running ghost routes. Dude is whack but Bob Saleh did him dirty

 

I think the QBs didn’t trust him to run the right routes.  

[JETS SB]

4 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said:

Interesting stuff. 

The “not a single team called about Wilson” is directly contradicted by another message board insider on the BYU board. 

Right after the season they said Wilson’s agent was told by the Jets that were called by numerous teams who said if they decide to trade Wilson they would be interested.  The Jets supposedly were not interested in trading.

Well yeah, I am sure a BYU board would have a more Pro-Wilson view. Bottom line is, his cap number makes him almost impossible to trade or cut. I am pretty sure no other team would take on that contract. At least no other team with a GM that wants to keep his job.  

[Hal N of Provo]

5 minutes ago, JETS SB said:

Well yeah, I am sure a BYU board would have a more Pro-Wilson view. Bottom line is, his cap number makes him almost impossible to trade or cut. I am pretty sure no other team would take on that contract. At least no other team with a GM that wants to keep his job.  

Who knows.   History on early pick QBs aligns with the guy who had info from the Wilson camp though.  

[Darnold's Forehead]

56 minutes ago, JETS SB said:

At Barkley Center this evening, I was sitting in a suite with a few attorneys (I am an attorney, but you probably don’t care) and one is a player agent who preferred not to be mentioned. He said that since last year, after Elijah Moore demanded a trade, it was thought he came back to play and let go of his trade demand. This never happened. In fact, if you look into his twitter posts from that point on, he stressed bible verses about being disrespected and minimized by Jets coaching and management, not calling them out directly but subtly quoting certain passages and circling parts which mentioned those specific things. This has been a concern with the Jets management and once the Jets traded for Allen Lazard and the OBJ rumors started up, he (not publicly this time) demanded to be traded again. Cleveland had made an offer early on and the Jets reconnected with them. A few other teams made lowball offers. Cleveland was the only team that would give us the 2nd.

The Jets felt that if it were leaked out that he had demanded a trade again, we would lose leverage and wouldn’t have even gotten what we did for him. The agent also told me Moore and Saleh were not on speaking terms from the time he asked for a trade midseason and then was sent home, until he was traded. MLF and Moore had talked and Moore apologized to him. 
 

I am just passing on the info. Don’t know how true it is. The agent also said the Jets, under JD, had been offered trades for many of their draft picks from 2020 and 2021 including Becton, Mims, and Moore (not Wilson apparently) and refused to engage, as their preference was to keep their young guys and not give up on them, but they were forced into a corner with Moore and had to get rid of him while they could still salvage a decent draft pick and before OTAs, where it was likely he wouldn’t have showed up.  

Thanks for the info.  Interesting.

Bottom line is he never did much of anything for us and was an issue within the building.  Glad he’s gone.

[Maxman]

This is very believable and if true great job by Douglas. They have a tight reign on info and this is a great benefit of that. Word gets out and you aren't getting a 2nd rounder back. Granted they gave up the 3rd blah blah blah but the comp would be even lower than that.

If Moore didn't demand the trade it was still a concern that he would go off the rails with Lazard and possibly Odell here.

[MykePM]

22 minutes ago, Maxman said:

This is very believable and if true great job by Douglas. They have a tight reign on info and this is a great benefit of that. Word gets out and you aren't getting a 2nd rounder back. Granted they gave up the 3rd blah blah blah but the comp would be even lower than that.

If Moore didn't demand the trade it was still a concern that he would go off the rails with Lazard and possibly Odell here.

I vaguely remember something similar with Jamal Adams.  Adams was very public about wanting to be traded, and JD finally had to tell him to stop it because he was tanking his own trade value, counterproductive to what he wanted.  I wouldn’t be shocked to find out that JD told Moore and his people that he’d try to accommodate their request, if they kept it on the downlow this time.

 

[undertow]

Initially I was underwhelmed with Moores return but after thinking about it for a few days getting 3rd round value for a scumbag slot receiver who has averaged 500 yards a year was a miracle. 

[AFJF]

2 hours ago, JETS SB said:

At Barkley Center this evening, I was sitting in a suite with a few attorneys (I am an attorney, but you probably don’t care) and one is a player agent who preferred not to be mentioned. He said that since last year, after Elijah Moore demanded a trade, it was thought he came back to play and let go of his trade demand. This never happened. In fact, if you look into his twitter posts from that point on, he stressed bible verses about being disrespected and minimized by Jets coaching and management, not calling them out directly but subtly quoting certain passages and circling parts which mentioned those specific things. This has been a concern with the Jets management and once the Jets traded for Allen Lazard and the OBJ rumors started up, he (not publicly this time) demanded to be traded again. Cleveland had made an offer early on and the Jets reconnected with them. A few other teams made lowball offers. Cleveland was the only team that would give us the 2nd.

The Jets felt that if it were leaked out that he had demanded a trade again, we would lose leverage and wouldn’t have even gotten what we did for him. The agent also told me Moore and Saleh were not on speaking terms from the time he asked for a trade midseason and then was sent home, until he was traded. MLF and Moore had talked and Moore apologized to him. 
 

I am just passing on the info. Don’t know how true it is. The agent also said the Jets, under JD, had been offered trades for many of their draft picks from 2020 and 2021 including Becton, Mims, and Moore (not Wilson apparently) and refused to engage, as their preference was to keep their young guys and not give up on them, but they were forced into a corner with Moore and had to get rid of him while they could still salvage a decent draft pick and before OTAs, where it was likely he wouldn’t have showed up.  

That's insane.  We've never even met and somehow you knew I wouldn't care that you're a lawyer.

Just kiddin'.  Very interesting post.  I figured Saleh was pissed about Moore pulling what he pulled.

[TokyoJetsFan]

2 hours ago, JETS SB said:

At Barkley Center this evening, I was sitting in a suite with a few attorneys (I am an attorney, but you probably don’t care) and one is a player agent who preferred not to be mentioned. He said that since last year, after Elijah Moore demanded a trade, it was thought he came back to play and let go of his trade demand. This never happened. In fact, if you look into his twitter posts from that point on, he stressed bible verses about being disrespected and minimized by Jets coaching and management, not calling them out directly but subtly quoting certain passages and circling parts which mentioned those specific things. This has been a concern with the Jets management and once the Jets traded for Allen Lazard and the OBJ rumors started up, he (not publicly this time) demanded to be traded again. Cleveland had made an offer early on and the Jets reconnected with them. A few other teams made lowball offers. Cleveland was the only team that would give us the 2nd.

The Jets felt that if it were leaked out that he had demanded a trade again, we would lose leverage and wouldn’t have even gotten what we did for him. The agent also told me Moore and Saleh were not on speaking terms from the time he asked for a trade midseason and then was sent home, until he was traded. MLF and Moore had talked and Moore apologized to him. 
 

I am just passing on the info. Don’t know how true it is. The agent also said the Jets, under JD, had been offered trades for many of their draft picks from 2020 and 2021 including Becton, Mims, and Moore (not Wilson apparently) and refused to engage, as their preference was to keep their young guys and not give up on them, but they were forced into a corner with Moore and had to get rid of him while they could still salvage a decent draft pick and before OTAs, where it was likely he wouldn’t have showed up.  

Thanks for that. Very interesting. This is the first time I have ever thanked a lawyer fyi.

[T0mShane]

Thanks for sharing. All makes sense, for sure. Moore thinks he’s already in that AJ Brown/DK Metcalf tier and was going to be unmanageable here, especially if they were going to keep running Zach out there. 

[Bobby816]

So Moore straight up lying then when he said publicly that this completely caught him off guard?

[bd71]

Good riddance to Moore then.  He’s done nothing in his career to warrant popping off at the mouth.  Glad JD banished him to Cleveland.

[Green Ghost]

10 minutes ago, bd71 said:

Good riddance to Moore then.  He’s done nothing in his career to warrant popping off at the mouth.  Glad JD banished him to Cleveland.

“Banished” ? 

Going from Zach Wilson to DeShaun Watson isn’t a punishment. It’s a new lease on life.

[bd71]

Just now, Green Ghost said:

“Banished” ? 

Going from Zach Wilson to DeShaun Watson isn’t a punishment.

Playing in Cleveland is.  Probably a worse franchise than the Jets.

[Green Ghost]

3 minutes ago, bd71 said:

Playing in Cleveland is.  Probably a worse franchise than the Jets.

Debatable. (Which is all that needs to be said)

Since 2018, they’ve been the better team and they have their long term answer QB going forward. We’re hoping for a one or two year window with Rodgers.

[JiF]

6 hours ago, JETS SB said:

At Barkley Center this evening, I was sitting in a suite with a few attorneys (I am an attorney, but you probably don’t care) and one is a player agent who preferred not to be mentioned. He said that since last year, after Elijah Moore demanded a trade, it was thought he came back to play and let go of his trade demand. This never happened. In fact, if you look into his twitter posts from that point on, he stressed bible verses about being disrespected and minimized by Jets coaching and management, not calling them out directly but subtly quoting certain passages and circling parts which mentioned those specific things. This has been a concern with the Jets management and once the Jets signed Allen Lazard and the OBJ rumors started up, he (not publicly this time) demanded to be traded again. Cleveland had made an offer early on and the Jets reconnected with them. A few other teams made lowball offers. Cleveland was the only team that would give us the 2nd.

The Jets felt that if it were leaked out that he had demanded a trade again, we would lose leverage and wouldn’t have even gotten what we did for him. The agent also told me Moore and Saleh were not on speaking terms from the time he asked for a trade midseason and then was sent home, until he was traded. MLF and Moore had talked and Moore apologized to him. 
 

I am just passing on the info. Don’t know how true it is. The agent also said the Jets, under JD, had been offered trades for many of their draft picks from 2020 and 2021 including Becton, Mims, and Moore (not Wilson apparently) and refused to engage, as their preference was to keep their young guys and not give up on them, but they were forced into a corner with Moore and had to get rid of him while they could still salvage a decent draft pick and before OTAs, where it was likely he wouldn’t have showed up.  

Interesting, the only thing that is hard to believe is Saleh and Moore werent on speaking terms.  That doesnt strike me as Saleh personality and lets be real, they absolutely had to talk at some point to put this behind them during the season and move on.  It's not like he never played another down, he did, and that certainly was the call of the Head Coach, who certainly, spoke w/ Moore about the situation.  

 

[JiF]

10 minutes ago, bd71 said:

Playing in Cleveland is.  Probably a worse franchise than the Jets.

Fun fact; since the NFL merger, no AFC team has lost more games than the NY Jets!

[Biggs]

Moore’s cryptic religious based complaints have no place on the Jets.   Saleh is a Muslim, Zach is a Mormon, the fan base is highly diverse.   I thought his behavior was appalling, selfish and tone deaf.

I really don’t think the anti-Zach and Lefluer crowd really listened to what he actually said.   This was about way more than football.   

[Green Ghost]

Although this sounds very believable, it’s also the exact type of scenario any half a**ed attorney makes up every day of the week. Add in the fact you have a room full of them, and it’s not hard to imagine one of them wanting to be the “guy in the know”.

If it makes everyone feel better about a bad trade though, no harm, no foul.

[jetsons]

5 hours ago, MykePM said:

I vaguely remember something similar with Jamal Adams.  Adams was very public about wanting to be traded, and JD finally had to tell him to stop it because he was tanking his own trade value, counterproductive to what he wanted.  I wouldn’t be shocked to find out that JD told Moore and his people that he’d try to accommodate their request, if they kept it on the downlow this time.

 

jamal IS AN A-HOLE.

[k-met57]

5 hours ago, MykePM said:

I vaguely remember something similar with Jamal Adams.  Adams was very public about wanting to be traded, and JD finally had to tell him to stop it because he was tanking his own trade value, counterproductive to what he wanted.  I wouldn’t be shocked to find out that JD told Moore and his people that he’d try to accommodate their request, if they kept it on the downlow this time.

 

1. so he was on social media forcing his way out PRIOR to asking for a trade, and the final straw? got it lol

2. can we have Joe Douglas a 20 year extension based solely on removing this individual from our lives (for 2 studs like AVT and GW)? thanks 

[usanyj]

10 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

1. so he was on social media forcing his way out PRIOR to asking for a trade, and the final straw? got it lol

2. can we have Joe Douglas a 20 year extension based solely on removing this individual from our lives (for 2 studs like AVT and GW)? thanks 

That trade really looks incredible, jamal hasn't been able to stay on the field and he has been no where close to "the best in the nation", and for jamal we have AVT and Garrett Wilson....wow!

[Xtina]

Trade offers on Mims, really? And did not jump on them 

[Integrity28]

5 hours ago, MykePM said:

I vaguely remember something similar with Jamal Adams.  Adams was very public about wanting to be traded, and JD finally had to tell him to stop it because he was tanking his own trade value, counterproductive to what he wanted.  I wouldn’t be shocked to find out that JD told Moore and his people that he’d try to accommodate their request, if they kept it on the downlow this time.

 

Jamal Adams is a ******* idiot. 

[Green Ghost]

6 minutes ago, Xtina said:

Trade offers on Mims, really? And did not jump on them 

*sauces

[Kleckineau]

5 hours ago, undertow said:

Initially I was underwhelmed with Moores return but after thinking about it for a few days getting 3rd round value for a scumbag slot receiver who has averaged 500 yards a year was a miracle. 

Just an aside but some might consider amassing 500 receiving yards a miracle with Hackenzack as the QB

[Biggs]

Just now, Kleckineau said:

Just an aside but some might consider amassing 500 receiving yards a miracle with Hackenzack as the QB

Against MN, one of the worst pass defenses in the league with Mike White at QB.  58 offensive snaps, 68% of the plays 2 receptions for 7 yards.  Targetted 6 time.  

GW was the rookie of the year.  

 

[slats]

58 minutes ago, JiF said:

Interesting, the only thing that is hard to believe is Saleh and Moore werent on speaking terms.  That doesnt strike me as Saleh personality and lets be real, they absolutely had to talk at some point to put this behind them during the season and move on.  It's not like he never played another down, he did, and that certainly was the call of the Head Coach, who certainly, spoke w/ Moore about the situation.  

 

It’s definitely not like Saleh, certainly not his public persona. Say what you want about him as a head coach, but the guy appears to be almost universally loved as a human being. I would imagine these non-talking terms were strictly from Moore’s side, and probably as good a reason as any to get him out of the locker room. I’m still disappointed, but he’s probably one of the rare former Jets that I won’t be rooting for to succeed. 

[mrcoops]

11 minutes ago, slats said:

It’s definitely not like Saleh, certainly not his public persona. Say what you want about him as a head coach, but the guy appears to be almost universally loved as a human being. I would imagine these non-talking terms were strictly from Moore’s side, and probably as good a reason as any to get him out of the locker room. I’m still disappointed, but he’s probably one of the rare former Jets that I won’t be rooting for to succeed. 

I think it was best to move on, although I am very disappointed it didn't work out for Moore on the Jets.  He has an awful lot of talent and is still very young, so he can go on to have a very long and productive career.

He did act like an idiot though, and an extremely selfish one at that. Yes, Zach Wilson was bad at throwing the ball, but you still have to be a professional and do your job.

I do believe it was the right time to trade him, but it will look bad if/when he has a very productive season for the Browns. He has the ability to be an 80 catch, 1100 yard, 10 TD type player if his head is on straight and he works hard.

Although, if he does have a great year, you know he's going to take a leaf out of the AJ Brown playbook and demand a mega-extension or a(nother) trade before his 4th season.  Oh well, that's Cleveland's problem now.

 

 

[jamesr]

1 hour ago, Green Ghost said:

 

Going from Zach Wilson to DeShaun Watson isn’t a punishment. It’s a new lease on life.

Unless you work in the sports massage business.   

[varjet]

• It was great JD got a 2nd round pick for him.  But he was not a great pick in the first place.  We passed on Creed Humphrey (and others) and he really was not a fit for this offense. 
• GW is great, and I guess Lazard fills this role, but it would be nice to see the Jets with a Deebo/SF WR type to match the offense.  Moore did not seem like a fit, and we could always get guys like Berrios to fill in.
• I don't like players shooting their way out of their team/contracts.  I guess that is just modern/sports reality.   I guess you can try it, and if we can basically reboot with a similar draft pick we used on you, with four more years under contract, it can be worth it.  That is likely the issue with ZW and Mimms-teams will trade for them, but for low draft picks.