### The Official Draft Day One Discussion Thread ###

[Scoop24]

I really wanted jsn .. if he was 22 i would like this better 24 year undersized edge rusher top 15? 

[NYJCAP2]

3 minutes ago, football guy said:

I wouldn’t call it a foregone conclusion. Cody Mauch, Anton Harrison, Matthew Bergeron among other OL could be considered in that range. If Tippmann lasts I think he will be the pick but gotta see how the board falls

I like Harrison and Bergeron both.

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

Genuinely, would have been a better pick than this.

This is a bad draft. Jack Campbell and the 160 lb corner went after McDonald. It is what it is. 

[Maynard13]

10 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

Jets might be trading up tonight stay tuned

Hopefully they trade McDonald 

[Dunnie]

IS THIS AARON MAYBIN PART DEUX ?

PFF : 2nd Round Grade

McDonald will be one of the more interesting defensive line prospects in the class because his tape is almost all at a position that he won't play in the NFL. He was frequently a four- or five-technique in Iowa State's defense at 236 pounds. McDonald is at his best in space off the edge, where he can be a speed rusher. He earned an 84.1 pass-rushing grade in 2022 and an 85.3 mark in 2021.

Where he wins: Explosiveness

McDonald can really get upfield and test an offensive tackle’s ability to get out of their stance. Combine that with his length, and it sets up anything he wants to do as an edge rusher.

What’s his role: 3-4 OLB/wide-9 defensive end

McDonald has all the traits to be an excellent speed rusher. You saw that whenever he was given the opportunity to pin his ears back at Iowa State. He earned a 92.6 pass-rushing grade against true pass sets this past fall.

What can he Improve: Play strength

McDonald very much understands leverage in the run game, but there’s only so much he can do without more sand in the pants. He seemingly has the frame to get bigger, but we need to see it.

 

SOME OTHER WEB SITE :

EDGE, Iowa State Cyclones

TDN Consensus Grade: 72.50/100 (Fourth-Round Value)

Will McDonald IV is an experienced player, playing in more than 50 games in his college career. McDonald had his most productive years at Iowa State during the 2020 and 2021 seasons, earning double-digit sacks in both seasons and being named Co-Defensive Lineman of the Year and First-Team All-Big-12 for the 2021 season. McDonald’s production dropped significantly in the 2022 season, posting five sacks, which could have been the result of him playing a higher variance of alignments along the defensive front.

As a pass rusher, McDonald is a speed rusher who uses a quick first step at the snap to attack the outside edges of offensive tackles. At the apex of the rush, McDonald shows to have hand counters (two-hand swipe, cross chop) that he can use to get the edge and turn the corner on offensive linemen to finish at the quarterback—showcasing fluid hips as well. McDonald is a smooth strider who, when his foot cadence times up with his hands, flashes the potential to be a high-level edge rusher on the next level.

As an edge rusher, there are elements of McDonald’s game that he can improve on. McDonald appears to be a straight-line player whose ability to instantly change direction laterally is limited. McDonald’s lateral moves are segmented, which affects his ability to stress offensive linemen laterally, and they have the ability to react to block McDonald.

As a run defender, McDonald is functional based on his alignment. At Iowa State, McDonald aligned on both the inside and outside shade of the tackle. But McDonald is best utilized when he is on the outside shade of the tackle where he can work on setting the edge and doesn’t have to worry about potential double teams. McDonald’s overall strength is a concern playing on the line of scrimmage.

Overall, McDonald’s value in the NFL is focused around his ability to evolve into a high-level pass rusher in the NFL using his length and natural athleticism while he continues to develop his strength to be an effective run defender.

Top Reasons to Buy In:

Natural length  
Upside as a pass rusher 
High motor 
Top Reasons For Concern:

Strength at the point of attack
Effectiveness defending the run 
Lack of pass-rush repertoire 
Size (NFL Combine):

Height: 6′ 4”

Weight: 239 lbs

Arm Length: 34 7/8”

Hand Size: 9 1/2”

Athletic Testing (NFL Combine):

40-yard Dash: TBD

Vertical Jump: 36”

Broad Jump: 11′ 0”

Short-Shuttle: TBD

Three-Cone: TBD

Bench Reps: TBD

Ideal Role: Stand-up edge rusher  

Scheme Fit: 3-4 OLB 

Sanchez Grade: 72.50/100
Written By: Keith Sanchez 

Exposures: Baylor (2022), Kansas State (2022), Texas (2022), Texas Tech (2022)

Edited April 28, 2023 by Dunnie

[GreenFish]

On the bright side, he practices parkour for fun. I love my parkour. My son does it for fun as well. Crazy sport. 

[Barkus]

McDonald is Huff’s replacement after they let Huff walk at end of the year.

[slimjasi]

This is a strange draft in general 

 

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

JSN is still OTC

Jets signed 2 wrs in FA, they weren’t taking a wr.  And you see how teams think of these wrs. 

I have no issues taking a pass rusher.  And i do expect an OL tomorrow.  So does it really matter if they went OL/pass rusher or vice versa?  Just pick good players. 

[Mogglez]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

They have a two year window to win a ring with Rodgers. Two things win games in the NFL: QBs and guys who sack the QB. They just got a guy who will presumably help sack the QB. Do I love the pick? No. But I appreciate the philosophy behind it. Let Rodgers get the team ahead in games, then unleash a NASCAR package in the second half against the opposing QB. 

Quoting this when Kenny Yeboah sends McDonald into the Shadow Realm during training camp.

[choon328]

Just now, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Make no mistake, McDonald is an edge burner like Abraham. I just think Douglas missed a great opportunity. It was the perfect scenario to take Levis. Zach Wilson is not a future plan

How's Josh Allen doing? Rumor has it in Western NY that he cheated on his high school gf, got another chick pregnant, ex gf found out the day before the Bengals playoff game and destroyed his house. Then when Diiggs was yelling at him during that game it was bc Josh Allen's head wasn't in the game. Hows that whole thing going????

[OMA]

Maybe the draft experts aren’t experts.. who had Campbell going before Jsn ? I think we have good coaches and the Iowa State pipeline worked last year. Kid can play and in a critical position, either protect your qb or hurt theirs is todays game.

[OilfieldJet]

19 minutes ago, prime21 said:

Every year the masses here think we know better than the scouts and coaching staff.


Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

And every year their right.

[Integrity28]

2 minutes ago, Vader said:

unique bend 

Off platform throws

[LionelRichie]

Didn’t we draft 2 DE’s last year ?

[NYJCAP2]

I’m guessing they went with McDonald over Kancey because they have inside rushers and no real guy with bend.

[Augustiniak]

Not a year for offensive weapons. 

[32EBoozer]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

Cutting Lawson frees up a lot of money to extend Q. 

Renegotiated contract IMO

[Mogglez]

1 minute ago, Dunnie said:

IS THIS AARON MAYBIN PART DEUX ?

PFF : 2nd Round Grade

McDonald will be one of the more interesting defensive line prospects in the class because his tape is almost all at a position that he won't play in the NFL. He was frequently a four- or five-technique in Iowa State's defense at 236 pounds. McDonald is at his best in space off the edge, where he can be a speed rusher. He earned an 84.1 pass-rushing grade in 2022 and an 85.3 mark in 2021.

Where he wins: Explosiveness

McDonald can really get upfield and test an offensive tackle’s ability to get out of their stance. Combine that with his length, and it sets up anything he wants to do as an edge rusher.

What’s his role: 3-4 OLB/wide-9 defensive end

McDonald has all the traits to be an excellent speed rusher. You saw that whenever he was given the opportunity to pin his ears back at Iowa State. He earned a 92.6 pass-rushing grade against true pass sets this past fall.

What can he Improve: Play strength

McDonald very much understands leverage in the run game, but there’s only so much he can do without more sand in the pants. He seemingly has the frame to get bigger, but we need to see it.

 

SOME OTHER WEB SITE :

EDGE, Iowa State Cyclones

TDN Consensus Grade: 72.50/100 (Fourth-Round Value)

Will McDonald IV is an experienced player, playing in more than 50 games in his college career. McDonald had his most productive years at Iowa State during the 2020 and 2021 seasons, earning double-digit sacks in both seasons and being named Co-Defensive Lineman of the Year and First-Team All-Big-12 for the 2021 season. McDonald’s production dropped significantly in the 2022 season, posting five sacks, which could have been the result of him playing a higher variance of alignments along the defensive front.

As a pass rusher, McDonald is a speed rusher who uses a quick first step at the snap to attack the outside edges of offensive tackles. At the apex of the rush, McDonald shows to have hand counters (two-hand swipe, cross chop) that he can use to get the edge and turn the corner on offensive linemen to finish at the quarterback—showcasing fluid hips as well. McDonald is a smooth strider who, when his foot cadence times up with his hands, flashes the potential to be a high-level edge rusher on the next level.

As an edge rusher, there are elements of McDonald’s game that he can improve on. McDonald appears to be a straight-line player whose ability to instantly change direction laterally is limited. McDonald’s lateral moves are segmented, which affects his ability to stress offensive linemen laterally, and they have the ability to react to block McDonald.

As a run defender, McDonald is functional based on his alignment. At Iowa State, McDonald aligned on both the inside and outside shade of the tackle. But McDonald is best utilized when he is on the outside shade of the tackle where he can work on setting the edge and doesn’t have to worry about potential double teams. McDonald’s overall strength is a concern playing on the line of scrimmage.

Overall, McDonald’s value in the NFL is focused around his ability to evolve into a high-level pass rusher in the NFL using his length and natural athleticism while he continues to develop his strength to be an effective run defender.

Top Reasons to Buy In:

Natural length  
Upside as a pass rusher 
High motor 
Top Reasons For Concern:

Strength at the point of attack
Effectiveness defending the run 
Lack of pass-rush repertoire 
Size (NFL Combine):

Height: 6′ 4”

Weight: 239 lbs

Arm Length: 34 7/8”

Hand Size: 9 1/2”

Athletic Testing (NFL Combine):

40-yard Dash: TBD

Vertical Jump: 36”

Broad Jump: 11′ 0”

Short-Shuttle: TBD

Three-Cone: TBD

Bench Reps: TBD

Ideal Role: Stand-up edge rusher  

Scheme Fit: 3-4 OLB 

Sanchez Grade: 72.50/100
Written By: Keith Sanchez 

Exposures: Baylor (2022), Kansas State (2022), Texas (2022), Texas Tech (2022)

Lmfaoooooooo

[Augustiniak]

Just now, LionelRichie said:

Didn’t we draft 2 DE’s last year ?

Old McDonald is an olb. 

[Barry McCockinner]

5 minutes ago, Maxman said:

There should be extra cap savings if you do it within 48 hours of drafting him lol.

[RutgersJetFan]

9 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

They have a two year window to win a ring with Rodgers. Two things win games in the NFL: QBs and guys who sack the QB. They just got a guy who will presumably help sack the QB. Do I love the pick? No. But I appreciate the philosophy behind it. Let Rodgers get the team ahead in games, then unleash a NASCAR package in the second half against the opposing QB. 

Presumably! 

[Integrity28]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

This is a strange draft in general 

 

Consensus was outside top-15 everyone sucks evenly.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Joe choked

Mcdonald was a day 2 prospect in most mocks / evaluations 

[bitonti]

FWIW

I like this Will McDonald IV pick

he's got world-class bend and explosion, a finished spin move, and legitimate production 

I give JD and company alot of crap but this dude can play. He's not Gholston. He's got character. He's a clean prospect a little old but impressive 

Whether you take him at 15 or 25 this was a good pick and I'll go on record

 

[FidelioJet]

NY Jets are an unserious organization. 

[ptisme]

17 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

Waste of a pick he will be ******* 30 when you need to decide if you want to pick up his 5th year.  How do you not take that into account?

Barb Agrees with the pick.   But she doesn't know anything about football...

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

2 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Quoting this when Kenny Yeboah sends McDonald into the Shadow Realm during training camp.

Pft. McDonald bout to spin Duane Brown into retirement. 

[Charlie Brown]

11 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

. WILL McDONALD, Iowa State (6-3 ½, 245, 4.74, 1): Might have clinched a berth in Round 1 with a boffo performance at pro day. “The workout was f--king phenomenal,” said one scout. “Bending, just the way he gains ground. With the athleticism, I see him getting drafted higher than he should. I’m rooting for him wherever he goes. He’s just a different bird, an interesting cat.” Played basketball early in high school but never tried football until his sophomore year. “He’s the wild card in this whole thing,” said a second scout. “He has want and will. He’s determined to be really good. There’s something there with this guy that leads me to believe he’s going to be really good. Great kid. He’ll be up to 255 sooner than later.” His pro day included position bests in the broad jump (11-0) and 3-cone (6.95). “His bend is the best there is, or as good as it can be,” a third scout said. “He can move his body in ways that nobody else can. Awesome athlete. Initially, he’s going to be a designated pass rusher. He’s got a ways to go to be effective in the run game. He’s just not that strong and it doesn’t come naturally to him against the run.” Long arms (34 7/8), hands were 9 ½. “He’s going to be a double-digit sack guy as a rookie,” a fourth scout said. “They played him like a 4i (technique) where he was always tight on the tackle. They never let him get out wide and just let him rip. His get-off is ridiculous. He was a 6-9 high jumper in high school. There’s some stuff in his background, a really rough background. But he has crushed the interviews.” Some teams are concerned about his Wonderlic score of 8. “As talented as he is, is he mature enough to handle the NFL and what’s going to be asked of him Monday through Friday?” said a fifth scout. Finished with 123 tackles (42 for loss) and 34 sacks. “Will’s biggest thing will be his weight,” said a sixth scout. “Can he put on enough weight to be a true defensive end and play the run? Natural pass rushers are hard to find that have that explosiveness off the ball and the ability to bend the edge and close. He’s got all that and more.” From Pewaukee, Wis.

 

 

[Embrace the Suck]

 

[Xtina]

5 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

Holy crap! Wanna feel better? This kid is a beast

 

Plus he can jump over a car 

[rtnelson]

Watch his combine tape.  He reminds me of Sauce in a heavier frame.  I seriously think he's an OLB candidate.

 

 

[Augustiniak]

Just now, bitonti said:

FWIW

I like this Will McDonald IV pick

he's got world-class bend and explosion, a finished spin move, and legitimate production 

I give JD and company alot of crap but this dude can play. He's not Gholston. He's got character. He's a clean prospect a little old but impressive 

Whether you take him at 15 or 25 this was a good pick and I'll go on record

 

He’s a pass rush specialist, every team needs them.  It’s going to help the entire defense. 

We knew that one of the top 2 picks this year was going to be defense, likely a pass rusher.  Does it matter if it’s tonight or tomorrow?  Tomorrow is C or OT.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

I mean WTF they were ready to give 30 year old Odell 10+ M but zero interest in JSN?

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

Quoting this when Kenny Yeboah sends McDonald into the Shadow Realm during training camp.

But isn’t he going to play wide 9 and basically be another Bryce Huff rotational pass rusher type? Is it the end of the world if he is a bit undersized?