JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 With the Raiduhs drafting another move TE in Bowers, Mayer is redundant for them. Offer the 3rd rounder they just got from the Lions (#125). They also have Harrison Bryant, a decent #2 TE who is now a #3. Mayer for free > burning 10th overall on Bowers Mayer is under team control for 2M per through 2026 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: With the Raiduhs drafting another move TE in Bowers, Mayer is redundant for them. Offer the 3rd rounder they just got from the Lions (#125). They also have Harrison Bryant, a decent #2 TE who is now a #3. Mayer for free > burning 10th overall on Bowers Mayer is under team control for 2M per through 2026 I assume the Raiders want both TEs but if they were willing to trade Mayer, I'd hope JD would be all in on that. I'd trade a 2nd rounder for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsFanatic Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Well he is intimidating! 2 1 2 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 That would leave the Raiders without a RTE, though. 1 3 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Two tight end sets are very smart for teams, something the jets should have done way more last year. Bully those small nickel backs and small safety linebacker hybrids and have a better chance at max protect if you can. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 27 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Well he is intimidating! Thanks, just making sure it got done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 12 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Two tight end sets are very smart for teams, something the jets should have done way more last year. Bully those small nickel backs and small safety linebacker hybrids and have a better chance at max protect if you can. You need actual tight ends in order to run 2 te sets. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I like our TE room. Just another reason I wasnt on the bowers train. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 14 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Two tight end sets are very smart for teams, something the jets should have done way more last year. Bully those small nickel backs and small safety linebacker hybrids and have a better chance at max protect if you can. Those small S/LB hybrids exist to counter small TE/WR hybrids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 43 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Well he is intimidating! And he cant be stopped! He justs keeps coming back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoubleDown Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Thread title reads like it actually happened. It's not that hard to preface your opinion with "The Jets should." 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 If they wanted to trade Mayer, they would have done it during the draft. Mayer is not on the trading block. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 24 minutes ago, Ghost420 said: You need actual tight ends in order to run 2 te sets. Conklin is all pro and rucket is 2nd team pro bowl but just has not been given snaps, or so i have been told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 The 2025 3rd will be replacing the pick we spent on Reddick. It's exactly why I love the move, I wasn't a fan that we invested a future resource in that trade but JD was essentially able to replace it "for free", given we got a 4th just for moving back to 11. I like Mayer, but I don't know that he's an immediate significant upgrade over Conklin. I'd love to acquire him next off season (maybe even cheaper) if we aren't looking like bringing Conklin back, but for a day 2 pick I'd personally not trade for him at this time. Not a major blocking upgrade on Ruckert or receiving upgrade on Conklin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 5 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said: The 2025 3rd will be replacing the pick we spent on Reddick. It's exactly why I love the move, I wasn't a fan that we invested a future resource in that trade but JD was essentially able to replace it "for free", given we got a 4th just for moving back to 11. I like Mayer, but I don't know that he's an immediate significant upgrade over Conklin. I'd love to acquire him next off season (maybe even cheaper) if we aren't looking like bringing Conklin back, but for a day 2 pick I'd personally not trade for him at this time. Not a major blocking upgrade on Ruckert or receiving upgrade on Conklin. I'd trade for him now if he was available. I wouldn't want to risk his value increasing next offseason. I still don't think the Raiders are going to have any interest in trading him though. I get the feeling they're trying out an entirely new model. I'm fascinated to see how it works out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 20 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: If they wanted to trade Mayer, they would have done it during the draft. Mayer is not on the trading block. This too. Even if Mayer isn't TE1 anymore, he's still a fantastic TE2 on a cheap rookie contract. No incentive to move him unless we make an offer that knocks their socks off (which we shouldn't). If he gets unsettled and we can get a discount, I'm here for it. Edit: @TuscanyTile2 agreed, if he were made available it'd be a different story. I'm just assuming he won't be available, unless his role decreases to the point where he gets upset. The "upgrade quality vs trade value" chart isn't very enticing otherwise. It'd probably take a first or second round pick, at that point let's just draft a top TE ourselves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 15 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Conklin is all pro and rucket is 2nd team pro bowl but just has not been given snaps, or so i have been told Ironically, if you go look at Ruckert’s pre-draft profile from a few years ago, he’d grade out at the top of this class behind Bowers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Two tight end sets are very smart for teams, something the jets should have done way more last year. Bully those small nickel backs and small safety linebacker hybrids and have a better chance at max protect if you can. I really think that is what Lazzard’s role is going to be this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Conklin is all pro and rucket is 2nd team pro bowl but just has not been given snaps, or so i have been told You're not serious right? Conklin is all pro lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Ghost420 said: You're not serious right? Conklin is all pro lmao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Is this the TE Douglas was rumored to be reaching for if McDonald was gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Raiders are probably drooling at the idea of saving 700k in exchange for $2.8 million in dead money 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 They have to be the stupidest franchise in sports to trade him after one year. Then again, it’s the Raiders so they should give them a call. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 49 minutes ago, GangGreened said: Is this the TE Douglas was rumored to be reaching for if McDonald was gone? I believe so, which makes me shudder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Depends on how much Dr. Loomis counts against the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 3 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: With the Raiduhs drafting another move TE in Bowers, Mayer is redundant for them. Offer the 3rd rounder they just got from the Lions (#125). They also have Harrison Bryant, a decent #2 TE who is now a #3. Mayer for free > burning 10th overall on Bowers Mayer is under team control for 2M per through 2026 Would you offer them Fashanou? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 8 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: With the Raiduhs drafting another move TE in Bowers, Mayer is redundant for them. Offer the 3rd rounder they just got from the Lions (#125). They also have Harrison Bryant, a decent #2 TE who is now a #3. Mayer for free > burning 10th overall on Bowers Mayer is under team control for 2M per through 2026 No he’s not . They are total different . Ones a traditional Te who can block Des , and can catch. Bower isn’t’t capable of blocking Des, more of a move blocker. Raiders are going to play a lot of two Te’s ( sometimes even three ) Luke Getsky loves utilizing the Tes in his offense. Even the rb Dylan Laube they drafted out of New Hampshire will be big part of their passing game. ( will see him or bowers occasional lining up in the slot . Michael Mayer will turn 23 in July, and B Bowers is 21 . God willing that will be there yes for next 10 years . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 9 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I assume the Raiders want both TEs but if they were willing to trade Mayer, I'd hope JD would be all in on that. I'd trade a 2nd rounder for him. So you don't have any belief in futures for Ruckert or Kuntz at all then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 9 minutes ago, Warfish said: So you don't have any belief in futures for Ruckert or Kuntz at all then. I know this wasn't @ me , but I'm curious. What's your own expectation for those 2? I think it would be naive of the Jets not to keep bringing in more TEs and trying to find their own LaPorta or Kincaid. Kuntz hasn't played an NFL snap, and Ruckert is looking like his ceiling is somewhere between "career TE2" and "average NFL TE". It'd be no shame on Ruckert if he was our long term TE2 with his quality blocking and reliable hands, but the upside feels a little limited, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 14 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said: Ruckert is looking like his ceiling is somewhere between "career TE2" and "average NFL TE". It'd be no shame on Ruckert if he was our long term TE2 with his quality blocking and reliable hands, but the upside feels a little limited, no? A TE who is a quality blocker and has reliable hands is a #2 type with limited upside? All of this off of a limited # of snaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Ruckert straight up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 There 12 personal gonna be nice. Having the 2 of 3 (Pitts) best TE prospects in college football over the past 5 years Is interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 why? shoulda just drafted bowers then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 7 hours ago, Jet Nut said: A TE who is a quality blocker and has reliable hands is a #2 type with limited upside? All of this off of a limited # of snaps? ... yes? Good blocking and hands are the bare minimum for an NFL TE1. And I did say he still looks like he could be a league average starter. Look, I WANT Ruckert to be a home grown superstar tight end, and I realize TEs often develop slower. But in a league where LaPorta, Kincaid, and Pitts got used right away for their receiving upside, wouldn't the Jets be giving ruckert more play time if he was already showing that kind of potential? Ruckert has 159 receiving yards in 2 years. You can chalk it up to lack of use, but if he was that good he could jump Conklin and (formerly) Uzomah on the depth chart. I think it's more realistic than pessimistic to guess the Jets will be looking for a more dynamic receiving tight end in the future. Let's hope I'm wrong dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Mayer in 2023 - 27 catches, 304 yards, 11.3 avg, 2 TDs Ruckert in 2023 - 16 catches, 151 yards, 9.4 avg, 0 TDs Hard to say that one is head and shoulders better than the other IMHO. I know it's not all about stats as they don't cover run blocking ability, or account for celing, but I'd far rather we work with the guy we drafted and increase his targets where we can. We drafted him for a reason - just like the Raiders drafted Mayers, and Bowers, for a reason. Enough with the Madden-style roster building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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