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I don't understand what happens with gurley.  He looked good in limited action last night, why wasn't he used more?  LA was terrible but there were plays Goff didn't execute or it's a different game but credit the NE D, they had him on the run and it affected his decision making all night

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24 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

He just took his team to the super bowl where his QB laid an egg. His QB laid an egg in the NFCG as well. Surprising how many people on here are rushing to call out McVay.

I think alot of folks, just not here but around the country got little tired ofhearing that this is the offense of the future, and how we all need to find the Sean McVay. That offense is nothing special, it is all based on Gurley being able to run the football and play action and some rollouts. Dallas showed it in that Thursday night game and league followed up on it. Take away Gurley and Anderson and put the game on Goff the Rams are not all that.

The one thing no one here wants to even see is how the Pats once they lost Gordon basicallly morphed into an old school pound the rock with Sony Michel, short passes and defensive team. The only real huge chunk plays the Pats had were a few to Gronk. Hogan didn't do much, Edelman was basically Mr 3rd Down, and if Edelman was not available then they dumped it to James White (Who basically didn't even play Sunday despite having big games against SD and KC.)

That is the kind of offense you want. An offense that can adjust to any type of opponent.

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1 hour ago, nyjunc said:

I don't understand what happens with gurley.  He looked good in limited action last night, why wasn't he used more?  LA was terrible but there were plays Goff didn't execute or it's a different game but credit the NE D, they had him on the run and it affected his decision making all night

gurley seemed to fold in a big time moment.  there were quite a few ram players that should've had better games like fowler and suh.  those guys were pretty much controlled.  and mcvay?  where were his adjustments.  he saw goff was struggling.  maybe he needed to call more short passes.  and how come the rams oline couldn't hold off a four man pass rush?

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4 hours ago, choon328 said:

Goff had about 4-5 game changing plays that he either missed or never threw to. This loss falls directly on him.

And, with Goff not looking strong, how about considering some higher percentage stuff?

Screens, slants, etc.  They either tried to run outside, or called a play-action deep ball.

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1 minute ago, TeddEY said:

And, with Goff not looking strong, how about considering some higher percentage stuff?

Screens, slants, etc.  They either tried to run outside, or called a play-action deep ball.

The lack of screen plays was killing me. Like - they're getting instant pressure all game and you aren't going to do some RB screens to keep them on their heels? WTH is going on here?

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2 hours ago, GreenFish said:

He just took his team to the super bowl where his QB laid an egg. His QB laid an egg in the NFCG as well. Surprising how many people on here are rushing to call out McVay.

So many of his passes were wobbly. Yes he was under pressure, but that would have been alleviated had he just completed just a few passes to those receivers who were open. Awful performance by Goff. Overrated is an understatement. 

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this is supposed to be good news? the Jets have the exact same "Wade Phillips - Sean McVay" model as the Rams. 

Adam Gase is poor man's Sean McVay and Gregg Williams is loud Wade Phillips. 

 

maybe, and this is just spitballing, having the headcoach call the plays isn't the sweetest idea 

considering there's like a billion other things they have to do all week and during game day 

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6 hours ago, choon328 said:

Goff had about 4-5 game changing plays that he either missed or never threw to. This loss falls directly on him.

Absolutely. Bellichick called a great game that basically shut down Goff's first option. When that happened Goff simply imploded, threw off his back foot to the nearest Blue/Yellow jersey. 

McVay should be praised for taking a JAG QB to the Super Bowl. 

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8 hours ago, shawn306 said:

I think alot of folks, just not here but around the country got little tired ofhearing that this is the offense of the future, and how we all need to find the Sean McVay. That offense is nothing special, it is all based on Gurley being able to run the football and play action and some rollouts. Dallas showed it in that Thursday night game and league followed up on it. Take away Gurley and Anderson and put the game on Goff the Rams are not all that.

The one thing no one here wants to even see is how the Pats once they lost Gordon basicallly morphed into an old school pound the rock with Sony Michel, short passes and defensive team. The only real huge chunk plays the Pats had were a few to Gronk. Hogan didn't do much, Edelman was basically Mr 3rd Down, and if Edelman was not available then they dumped it to James White (Who basically didn't even play Sunday despite having big games against SD and KC.)

That is the kind of offense you want. An offense that can adjust to any type of opponent.

That makes sense. A lot of that is media and fan driven. I’ve never seen McVay talk himself up. Seems to be the type that goes about his business.

Crazy how different that offense looks without a running game. Another thing to point out is that Gurley looked awful his rookie year with a bad OL. And here we are back to the old adage that a team should be built from the trenches on out. Macc needs to take note. Build the OL.

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7 hours ago, HighPitch said:

hey the guy took it to the big game. goff sucked. it is what it is....

 

when were the jets in the sb?

When the Jets were last in the SB has what exactly to do with McVay, the Rams, Goff whatever?

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1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

When the Jets were last in the SB has what exactly to do with McVay, the Rams, Goff whatever?

Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house. Simple as that. Pats fans can goof on the rams. The jets  cant break 500. Their fans need to shut up, imo, before goofing on anyone

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1 hour ago, HighPitch said:

Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house. Simple as that. Pats fans can goof on the rams. The jets  cant break 500. Their fans need to shut up, imo, before goofing on anyone

Not getting the logic on any level.  Jets have nothing to do with it.  Because we havent won we're not allowed to say that the Rams choked?  

No one needs to shut up, you can if you dont think its right.  I dont get why, I watched the game, they choked.  Dont need a Jet win to see it

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Mcvay's team wasn't ready and didn't adjust. Especially his offensive line, made up of probowlers was completely unable to run the ball and he never put any screens or adjusted his runs (maybe that's on Goff not reading at line). 

It didn't look like Goff was prepared.

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On 2/4/2019 at 9:01 AM, Jetmech said:

To be fair they did get there so McVay's hype was somewhat justified considering he's only been HC for two years. The team had talent before he got there so coaching does matter...

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McVay seems to be a glorified OC.  He does not touch the D.   The D was the best thing about their game

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On 2/4/2019 at 7:39 AM, shawn306 said:

I think alot of folks, just not here but around the country got little tired ofhearing that this is the offense of the future, and how we all need to find the Sean McVay. That offense is nothing special, it is all based on Gurley being able to run the football and play action and some rollouts. Dallas showed it in that Thursday night game and league followed up on it. Take away Gurley and Anderson and put the game on Goff the Rams are not all that.

The one thing no one here wants to even see is how the Pats once they lost Gordon basicallly morphed into an old school pound the rock with Sony Michel, short passes and defensive team. The only real huge chunk plays the Pats had were a few to Gronk. Hogan didn't do much, Edelman was basically Mr 3rd Down, and if Edelman was not available then they dumped it to James White (Who basically didn't even play Sunday despite having big games against SD and KC.)

That is the kind of offense you want. An offense that can adjust to any type of opponent.

The offense and the defense of the past defeated the offense of the future and the defense of the past.

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16 hours ago, CTM said:

McVay was a bit gutless and overall didn't live up to the hype, but Goff was down right awful. As usual, hard to win when your QB plays that bad

I don't know that it was any one thing. There's some blame to go around, from play calling that could/should have been better, from Goff not having a great game, to the OL numerous times having him under pressure from 2 defenders before he'd finished his drop back, to the receivers who didn't get enough separation on crucial downs (or didn't get separation quickly enough when Goff was under heavier pressure).

The offense in general laid an egg. 

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Just now, Sperm Edwards said:

  the OL numerous times having him under pressure from 2 defenders before he'd finished his drop back

 

if you needed an OL for 1 game and your choice were the Pats OL or the Rams OL, who would you pick? honest question

objectively the rams line has way more talent. 

Andrew Whitworth said after the game the Pats were bringing 6 defenders vs 5 OL all night 

there were some breakdowns inside for example Austin Blythe got beat a couple times but basically this was a situation where Goff wasn't dealing with the blitz well and needed to get rid of it quicker/more accurately 

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