southtown24th Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, BCJet said: Walterfootball mentioned he had knee problems last year and that he may have mailed it in a bit instead of playing hurt once the raiders season went so poorly. It appears that his weightloss in the video would back that up as he was probably looking to put less stress on his knees and ankles going from 330 to 297. Ideally he can play right around 300 and be more athletic in our inside zone system. Also, if I'm reading over the cap correctly, he has no guaranteed money left, so if he struggles or has more knee problems we can let him go after 2019 with no dead money. Great trade to me, also allows us more flexibility in the draft (would love to spend FA money on barr and flowers, and trade down for Bradbury to play center, but thats unlikely) do ya blame him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I'm pumped. LG sucked last year. Now we can zone in on Morse (let's get the younger free agent), trade back & pick Jonah, take the best guard available with one of 3rds to push Winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Mike135 said: No problem if it's Coleman. Would prefer Bell though. Seriously it was a great trade for the Jets. Mckenize made all the contracts like Osemele. Basically pay as you go, and the team could cut you at anytime with zero cap hit. ( that part I'm going to miss Mckenize the most). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, choon328 said: After Saffold gets paid his salary will be considered a bargain This is interesting: Player Team Age Total Value Avg./Year Total Guaranteed Fully Guaranteed Free Agency Andrew Norwell Jaguars 28 $66,500,000 $13,300,000 $30,000,000 $30,000,000 2023 UFA Kelechi Osemele Raiders 30 $58,500,000 $11,700,000 $25,400,000 $25,400,000 2021 UFA Ali Marpet Buccaneers 26 $54,125,000 $10,825,000 $26,867,351 $10,117,351 2024 UFA Joel Bitonio Browns 28 $50,000,000 $10,000,000 $23,664,777 $17,164,777 2023 UFA Ronald Leary Broncos 30 $36,000,000 $9,000,000 $24,000,000 $18,650,000 2021 UFA Zach Fulton Texans 28 $28,000,000 $7,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 2022 UFA Josh Sitton Dolphins 33 $13,500,000 $6,750,000 $8,450,000 $8,450,000 2020 UFA Rodger Saffold Rams 31 $31,722,233 $6,344,447 $15,000,000 $11,000,000 2019 UFA Quenton Nelson Colts 23 $23,888,912 $5,972,228 $23,888,912 $23,888,912 2022 UFA Isaac Seumalo Eagles 26 $17,627,000 $5,626,000 $12,649,000 $7,849,000 2023 Void Laken Tomlinson 49ers 27 $16,500,000 $5,500,000 $11,600,944 $6,600,944 2022 UFA Lane Taylor Packers 30 $16,500,000 $5,500,000 $7,250,000 $7,250,000 2021 UFA Clint Boling Bengals 30 $26,000,000 $5,200,000 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 2020 UFA James Carpenter Jets 30 $19,100,000 $4,775,000 $7,500,000 $5,000,000 2019 UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, southtown24th said: do ya blame him? I 1000% do not. That team was a mess, and with $20 million non-guaranteed, it was a smart move by him to limit wear and tear on his body as much as possible. I also love seeing him lose 30 lbs, shows he cares about still being good and fixing any lingering issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully80 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Solid trade, fills our need at OG without having to waste time and resources during FA on Saffold. Go out and get either Morse or Paradis (preferably Paradis) and give me a RB (Bell please) and I'm content on the offensive side of the ball in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Nice trade on a couple of fronts: - You fill the LG spot before free agency - By making the trade you save $$$. Because a free agent guard would command at least 4 years, $40 million and probably $17-$20 million guaranteed. You basically get Osemele on a 2 year $20 million contract BUT none of it is guaranteed - Smart move by Maccagnan to offer OAK a #5 before they cut Osemele. Because if he was on the market he would have to bid against other teams which would drive his price up Good start to the free agency period hopefully Maccagnan can keep it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mike135 said: No problem if it's Coleman. Would prefer Bell though. Looks like Bell is going to the Ravens. Him and Jackson together? Whoo boy, Instant offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 So the Jets essentially moved back from Round 5 to Round 6 (no net loss of a pick) for Osemele? Great move in my opinion. The only real risk the Jets have taken is that if he doesn't return to close to his 2016 form then they're overpaying the guy. That's a very reasonable risk. If he turns out to be very good but not great then this was easily worth it and it's an upgrade. Takes the pressure off the Jets to land a guy like Saffold. I'd be All-In on Paradis and Leveon Bell as the two big FA moves on offense now. Add any one of Barr, Trey Flowers, Justin Houston and the Jets have checked the Edge Rusher box heading into the Draft, giving themselves big flexibility at #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 We got our starting LG for the next 2-3 years by trading down from pick #140 to #196. That is a tremendously good deal. Sign Morse/Paradis, draft an LT successor, and let's roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, choon328 said: After Saffold gets paid his salary will be considered a bargain Yup. Last year, Andrew Norwell was top guard in FA and he got 5 years / $66Mil. Osemele at $10 mil will look like a bargain after FA contracts are doled out this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully80 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, rayzor said: This is interesting: Player Team Age Total Value Avg./Year Total Guaranteed Fully Guaranteed Free Agency Andrew Norwell Jaguars 28 $66,500,000 $13,300,000 $30,000,000 $30,000,000 2023 UFA Kelechi Osemele Raiders 30 $58,500,000 $11,700,000 $25,400,000 $25,400,000 2021 UFA Ali Marpet Buccaneers 26 $54,125,000 $10,825,000 $26,867,351 $10,117,351 2024 UFA Joel Bitonio Browns 28 $50,000,000 $10,000,000 $23,664,777 $17,164,777 2023 UFA Ronald Leary Broncos 30 $36,000,000 $9,000,000 $24,000,000 $18,650,000 2021 UFA Zach Fulton Texans 28 $28,000,000 $7,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 2022 UFA Josh Sitton Dolphins 33 $13,500,000 $6,750,000 $8,450,000 $8,450,000 2020 UFA Rodger Saffold Rams 31 $31,722,233 $6,344,447 $15,000,000 $11,000,000 2019 UFA Quenton Nelson Colts 23 $23,888,912 $5,972,228 $23,888,912 $23,888,912 2022 UFA Isaac Seumalo Eagles 26 $17,627,000 $5,626,000 $12,649,000 $7,849,000 2023 Void Laken Tomlinson 49ers 27 $16,500,000 $5,500,000 $11,600,944 $6,600,944 2022 UFA Lane Taylor Packers 30 $16,500,000 $5,500,000 $7,250,000 $7,250,000 2021 UFA Clint Boling Bengals 30 $26,000,000 $5,200,000 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 2020 UFA James Carpenter Jets 30 $19,100,000 $4,775,000 $7,500,000 $5,000,000 2019 UFA On the open market with talented OL being scarce. I'd say Saffold gets close to Norwell's deal, wouldn't be shocked if he surpassed it either. This is a good trade that eliminates our need prior to FA. Just hope KO returns to 2016, 2017 form and is healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 According to ESPN it's a swap of late round picks. Since we don't have a 6th rounder this year that leaves 5th or 7th round. If it's our fifth for their sixth, that's not too bad. In any event, it's nothing major, that's for sure. Great get, under contract for two more years, 10 million/year, probably what it would have cost for Saffold. 29 years old, former pro bowler, track record of good health, and huge. Bird in the hand, is better than a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Smith Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Looks like Bell is going to the Ravens. Him and Jackson together? Whoo boy, Instant offense. Link? I’d be very surprised if he went to Baltimore to play in a gimmick offense that will get stomped out next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: According to ESPN it's a swap of late round picks. Since we don't have a 6th rounder this year that leaves 5th or 7th round. If it's our fifth for their sixth, that's not too bad. In any event, it's nothing major, that's for sure. Great get, under contract for two more years, 10 million/year, probably what it would have cost for Saffold. 29 years old, former pro bowler, and huge. 2019: $10.2M 2020: 11.7M no guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, Lith said: BOOM! I just mailed a $5 Starbucks gift card to Maccagnan with a note that says, "Atta boy!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Excellent trade by MacSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Solid trade. We get an ok starter and 6th for a 5th round pick. Not bad. There was only 1 player in FA that was better than him. Now get 2 WRs, a LT, a RT, a RG, a RB, 2 edge players, a NT, a LB, 2 CBs and a Kicker. Then we;'re talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, rayzor said: True. He'll be making more than double what we were paying Carpenter. And $3-4mm LESS than what Saffold with get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Have to imagine the salary was the motivation for Oakland here after forking over $50M to Brown. They relieve themselves of about $11-12M each of the next 2 years. They're probably willing to step back with an average OG in more like the $4-5M range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 47 minutes ago, Death2NE said: Not that PFF is gospel or anything but they had him graded as their 61st best guard last season out of 77, 5 spots ahead of Vlad Ducasse lol ... anyone know why that is ? Or is everyone excited just assuming this is a good young player Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app he was injured last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: According to ESPN it's a swap of late round picks. Since we don't have a 6th rounder this year that leaves 5th or 7th round. If it's our fifth for their sixth, that's not too bad. In any event, it's nothing major, that's for sure. Great get, under contract for two more years, 10 million/year, probably what it would have cost for Saffold. 29 years old, former pro bowler, track record of good health, and huge. Bird in the hand, is better than a bidding war. Yup. That is waht is being reported. Our 5 for their 6 and Osemele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Good deal, don;t stop there mac, we need a real center and even look at a tackle as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Yeah but I didn’t know he came with a 10m cap charge with zero guaranteed money and 11.7m next year if they choose. Nice. Can easily afford the 10m this season and have lots of time to decide what to do with Osemele for 2020 and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Good deal, don;t stop there mac, we need a real center and even look at a tackle as well. Late round picks for salary heavy players that aren’t wanted anymore is a solid strategy. I’ve been pounding the table for moves like this and we should make more. We have the cap and can absorb these contracts for quality players that aren’t in their team’s plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 The silence from the Snark Brigade is deafening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Have to imagine the salary was the motivation for Oakland here after forking over $50M to Brown. They relieve themselves of about $11-12M each of the next 2 years. They're probably willing to step back with an average OG in more like the $4-5M range. They'll probably target a G with one of their first round picks. Cody Ford??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, rayzor said: He resolved the "overweight" issues in the offseason. Arbys. They have the meats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: BOOM! I just mailed a $5 Starbucks gift card to Maccagnan with a note that says, "Atta boy!" so did Mac finally upgrade from that Dunkin' Donuts swill he likes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Jet9 said: The silence from the Snark Brigade is deafening. Mac has a long ways to go and there is nothing wrong with praising his good moves. The amount of d*cksucking by everyone like he righted all of his wrongs with 1 trade is sickening. Have some respect for yourselves and team and hold our GM to a higher standard. If this is the bar that fans set, that is pathetic. Just be doormats that don’t demand any accountability from a horrific GM performance over 4 years. I hope Mac kills it and only wish for success for my team regardless of my feelings of him. Hopefully he can learn from his mistakes and get this team on track. It would take YEARS of successful moves (not just 1), until he deserves any credibility again. I’d gladly eat that crow if it happens. Just stop with the premature e-maculation and let him earn his credibility back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Dude is a ripped 296, says hes gonna "bulk up" starting in April, wanted to get his longevity and health in the right place. If hes 320ish in that kind of space, we got a former All Pro in his prime.and really figuring stuff out. Great move https://twitter.com/KOseven0/status/1095418162097451008/video/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetstream23 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: so did Mac finally upgrade from that Dunkin' Donuts swill he likes? well, he can now.....with that $5 gift card. That will get him one Venti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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