RonaldJet 150 #1 Posted November 18 If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. 2 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Crusher 206,203 #2 Posted November 18 We kinda have 1 or 10 threads discussing this. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stark 2,782 #3 Posted November 18 16 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. Id offer a Khalil Mack type deal for Khalil Mack. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nycdan 14,227 #4 Posted November 18 Bears problems have absolutely nothing to do with Khalil Mack. The Raiders drafted rather well after the Ferrell pick (which was bizarre). They stacked draft picks and in a very un-Jets like way, got some good players. So they can now beat sub-500 teams and lose to over-500 teams (IND being the sole exception this year). For them that was a huge step forward though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jetstream23 17,226 #5 Posted November 18 13 minutes ago, Stark said: Id offer a Khalil Mack type deal for Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack and a 2nd Round pick for Jamal Adams? I might consider it. But call me when Mack has any many sacks as Jamal. 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe W. Namath 4,706 #6 Posted November 18 The bears miscalculated the qb position. Khalil was added as they thought they had their franchise qb for the next 10 years. Now that it is apparent they dont, the mack deal looks awful for them. GM Ryan Pace might pay for this with his job. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BornJetsFan1983 5,655 #7 Posted November 18 Or do they hahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 118,487 #8 Posted November 18 35 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. The Bears offense imploded when they had injuries on their OL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight89 1,818 #9 Posted November 18 46 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. Nobody is offering the Jets a Khalil Mack type of deal for a safety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 131,966 #10 Posted November 18 16 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: The bears miscalculated the qb position. Khalil was added as they thought they had their franchise qb for the next 10 years. Now that it is apparent they dont, the mack deal looks awful for them. GM Ryan Pace might pay for this with his job. Someone, quick, call O'Hare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 91,880 #11 Posted November 18 Another example of what I’ve been preaching for years. Oline is more important then passrushers. QB, the oline as a unit then CB/ED Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ASH1962 3,176 #12 Posted November 18 Trubiscuit stinks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 15,835 #13 Posted November 18 56 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetster 9,173 #14 Posted November 18 17 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Bears offense imploded when they had injuries on their OL. Weird how that works? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 118,487 #15 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, Jetster said: Weird how that works? Fortunately we’ve had no such concerns 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CurtMart 266 #16 Posted November 18 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Bears offense imploded when they had injuries on their OL. Sounds familiar. Unless of course if you’re playing the Gnats or Deadskins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenwichjetfan 2,942 #17 Posted November 18 7 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Trubiscuit Well that's a new one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prime21 4,761 #18 Posted November 18 Bears traded two first-round picks, a third-round pick and a sixth round pick to the Raiders for Mack and 2020 second round and conditional fifth round draft picks. We are not getting an offer like that for Adams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 208,275 #19 Posted November 18 Jamal Adams is worth more than Khalil Mack IMO. This does not have much to do with their value as players, but Adams is signed cheap (like sub-$1M) through 2020, with a team option for 2021. Mack is signed through 2024, but he is getting around $17M per. You have to clear cap for Mack, not Adams. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoJoTownsell1 8,071 #20 Posted November 18 43 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: The bears miscalculated the qb position. Khalil was added as they thought they had their franchise qb for the next 10 years. Now that it is apparent they dont, the mack deal looks awful for them. GM Ryan Pace might pay for this with his job. I think the Bears and Rams are in similar situations. Both teams went all in to win now with their young "franchise" QBs only to realize that their guys weren't very good. Goff was great when the team was firing on all cylinders, now that the Oline isn't as good, Gurley is getting older and Cooks is out the offense looks pretty bad. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetster 9,173 #21 Posted November 18 22 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Fortunately we’ve had no such concerns Did you hear Nance excusing Goff & McVay based on their injuries up front? While they were excusing them I'm still seeing Whitworth, their starting Center & LG, and I'm like, oh, poor babies. Why don't you trade us Whitworth for Chuma Edoga & we'll let you line the young man up at LT for you. NOT SORRY! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chirorob 3,059 #22 Posted November 18 18 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Jamal Adams is worth more than Khalil Mack IMO. This does not have much to do with their value as players, but Adams is signed cheap (like sub-$1M) through 2020, with a team option for 2021. Mack is signed through 2024, but he is getting around $17M per. You have to clear cap for Mack, not Adams. Not quite sub 1 million, but relatively cheap as he is on his rookie deal. Edit, his Base is sub 1 million, his roster bonus and pro rated bonus brings his number up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jetstream23 17,226 #23 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: The bears miscalculated the qb position. Khalil was added as they thought they had their franchise qb for the next 10 years. Now that it is apparent they dont, the mack deal looks awful for them. GM Ryan Pace might pay for this with his job. Bingo! You don't look for the high-priced (both in terms of $$ and Draft picks) game-changers, elite toys, etc. until you know you have the QB. Khalil Mack would be the perfect guy for a team like KC or even the Texans after Watt's injury. If the Bears had a QB Mack would make sense. But now, not only are they not sure about their QB, they gave up two first round picks to get him. It was like an "all in" move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe W. Namath 4,706 #24 Posted November 18 And that is why we need to be patient with Darnold. We technically have another 3 years before we owe him a new contract. There is no reason to rush into those discussions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jetstream23 17,226 #25 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Jamal Adams is worth more than Khalil Mack IMO. This does not have much to do with their value as players, but Adams is signed cheap (like sub-$1M) through 2020, with a team option for 2021. Mack is signed through 2024, but he is getting around $17M per. You have to clear cap for Mack, not Adams. That is actually a very good point. Jamal Adams is the kind of difference making defender that a team in its Super Bowl window, but bumping against the salary cap, might find really valuable! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nixhead 1,302 #26 Posted November 18 The Jets have all their picks plus an xtra 3rd and I’m sure we will acquire 1 or 2 more picks. I think we have enough picks along with free agency to improve where we need to and keep Adams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barkus 1,135 #27 Posted November 18 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: The Bears offense imploded when they had injuries on their OL. Same with the rams too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Life 971 #28 Posted November 18 Maybe its because Mitch stinks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rldev 232 #29 Posted November 18 As I keep saying Kalil Mack shows up for primetime games. There were many on this board that wanted to give up the farm for him. Follow the Belichick way. It's sustainable. These types have a few great years and then fall off. These guys never outperform their second contract. And yes, Jamal Adams is more impactful this season than Kalil Mack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonaldJet 150 #30 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Jamal Adams is worth more than Khalil Mack IMO. This does not have much to do with their value as players, but Adams is signed cheap (like sub-$1M) through 2020, with a team option for 2021. Mack is signed through 2024, but he is getting around $17M per. You have to clear cap for Mack, not Adams. Guys like Mack, Ramsey, and Adams are valuable. All Pro players that look like potential future hall of famers don’t become available in the prime of their careers often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry McCockinner 6,147 #31 Posted November 18 edit: I am we todd did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HighPitch 1,440 #32 Posted November 18 Gotta admit.... dislike adams antics but hes compiling a decent number of stats that are now making me want to hold on to this idiot 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 23,324 #33 Posted November 18 3 hours ago, RonaldJet said: If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. The Trade Deadline is passed. Save this for the off-season please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonaldJet 150 #34 Posted November 18 15 minutes ago, rldev said: As I keep saying Kalil Mack shows up for primetime games. There were many on this board that wanted to give up the farm for him. Follow the Belichick way. It's sustainable. These types have a few great years and then fall off. These guys never outperform their second contract. And yes, Jamal Adams is more impactful this season than Kalil Mack. We are seeing it with CJ Moseley. These guys get hurt all the time, and it’s absolutely crippling when that player is taking that much of the cap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonaldJet 150 #35 Posted November 18 2 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Gotta admit.... dislike adams antics but hes compiling a decent number of stats that are now making me want to hold on to this idiot His trade value may be at peak right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites