Raiders 6-4 and Bears 4-6

[RonaldJet 68]

If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. 

[The Crusher 207,939]

We kinda have 1 or 10 threads discussing this. 

[Stark 2,928]

16 minutes ago, RonaldJet said:

If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. 

Id offer a Khalil Mack type deal for Khalil Mack.

[nycdan 14,513]

Bears problems have absolutely nothing to do with Khalil Mack.  

The Raiders drafted rather well after the Ferrell pick (which was bizarre).  They stacked draft picks and in a very un-Jets like way, got some good players.  So they can now beat sub-500 teams and lose to over-500 teams (IND being the sole exception this year).  For them that was a huge step forward though.  

[jetstream23 19,158]

13 minutes ago, Stark said:

Id offer a Khalil Mack type deal for Khalil Mack.

Khalil Mack and a 2nd Round pick for Jamal Adams?  I might consider it.

But call me when Mack has any many sacks as Jamal.

[Joe W. Namath 4,740]

The bears miscalculated the qb position.  Khalil was added as they thought they had their franchise qb for the next 10 years.

Now that it is apparent they dont, the mack deal looks awful for them.  GM Ryan Pace might pay for this with his job.

[BornJetsFan1983 5,757]

Or do they hahahaha

[T0mShane 120,554]

35 minutes ago, RonaldJet said:

If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. 

The Bears offense imploded when they had injuries on their OL.

[ScarletKnight89 1,946]

46 minutes ago, RonaldJet said:

If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. 

Nobody is offering the Jets a Khalil Mack type of deal for a safety. 

[Scott Dierking 132,259]

16 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

The bears miscalculated the qb position.  Khalil was added as they thought they had their franchise qb for the next 10 years.

Now that it is apparent they dont, the mack deal looks awful for them.  GM Ryan Pace might pay for this with his job.

Someone, quick, call O'Hare.

[New York Mick 92,902]

Another example of what I’ve been preaching for years. Oline is more important then passrushers. QB, the oline as a unit then CB/ED

 

 

[ASH1962 3,258]

Trubiscuit stinks

[joewilly12 17,194]

56 minutes ago, RonaldJet said:

If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. 

[Jetster 9,595]

17 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The Bears offense imploded when they had injuries on their OL.

Weird how that works?

[T0mShane 120,554]

1 minute ago, Jetster said:

Weird how that works?

Fortunately we’ve had no such concerns 

[CurtMart 404]

20 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The Bears offense imploded when they had injuries on their OL.

Sounds familiar. Unless of course if you’re playing the Gnats or Deadskins. 

[greenwichjetfan 3,209]

7 minutes ago, ASH1962 said:

Trubiscuit

Well that's a new one. 

[prime21 4,878]

Bears traded two first-round picks, a third-round pick and a sixth round pick to the Raiders for Mack and 2020 second round and conditional fifth round draft picks. 

We are not getting an offer like that for Adams.

 

[#27TheDominator 208,502]

Jamal Adams is worth more than Khalil Mack IMO.  This does not have much to do with their value as players, but Adams is signed cheap (like sub-$1M) through 2020, with a team option for 2021.  Mack is signed through 2024, but he is getting around $17M per.  You  have to clear cap for Mack, not Adams. 

[JoJoTownsell1 8,361]

43 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

The bears miscalculated the qb position.  Khalil was added as they thought they had their franchise qb for the next 10 years.

Now that it is apparent they dont, the mack deal looks awful for them.  GM Ryan Pace might pay for this with his job.

I think the Bears and Rams are in similar situations. Both teams went all in to win now with their young "franchise" QBs only to realize that their guys weren't very good.

Goff was great when the team was firing on all cylinders, now that the Oline isn't as good, Gurley is getting older and Cooks is out the offense looks pretty bad. 

[Jetster 9,595]

22 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Fortunately we’ve had no such concerns 

Did you hear Nance excusing Goff & McVay based on their injuries up front? While they were excusing them I'm still seeing Whitworth, their starting Center & LG, and I'm like, oh, poor babies. Why don't you trade us Whitworth for Chuma Edoga & we'll let you line the young man up at LT for you. NOT SORRY!

[chirorob 3,278]

18 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Jamal Adams is worth more than Khalil Mack IMO.  This does not have much to do with their value as players, but Adams is signed cheap (like sub-$1M) through 2020, with a team option for 2021.  Mack is signed through 2024, but he is getting around $17M per.  You  have to clear cap for Mack, not Adams. 

Not quite sub 1 million, but relatively cheap as he is on his rookie deal.

Edit, his Base is sub 1 million, his roster bonus and pro rated bonus brings his number up.

[jetstream23 19,158]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

The bears miscalculated the qb position.  Khalil was added as they thought they had their franchise qb for the next 10 years.

Now that it is apparent they dont, the mack deal looks awful for them.  GM Ryan Pace might pay for this with his job.

Bingo!

You don't look for the high-priced (both in terms of $$ and Draft picks) game-changers, elite toys, etc. until you know you have the QB.  Khalil Mack would be the perfect guy for a team like KC or even the Texans after Watt's injury.   If the Bears had a QB Mack would make sense.  But now, not only are they not sure about their QB, they gave up two first round picks to get him.  It was like an "all in" move.

[Joe W. Namath 4,740]

And that is why we need to be patient with Darnold.  We technically have another 3 years before we owe him a new contract.  There is no reason to rush into those discussions.

[jetstream23 19,158]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Jamal Adams is worth more than Khalil Mack IMO.  This does not have much to do with their value as players, but Adams is signed cheap (like sub-$1M) through 2020, with a team option for 2021.  Mack is signed through 2024, but he is getting around $17M per.  You  have to clear cap for Mack, not Adams. 

That is actually a very good point. Jamal Adams is the kind of difference making defender that a team in its Super Bowl window, but bumping against the salary cap, might find really valuable! 

[Nixhead 1,356]

The Jets have all their picks plus an xtra 3rd and I’m sure we will acquire 1 or 2 more picks. I think we have enough picks along with free agency to improve where we need to and keep Adams. 

[Barkus 1,173]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

The Bears offense imploded when they had injuries on their OL.

Same with the rams too

[Jet Life 1,136]

Maybe its because Mitch stinks

[rldev 261]

As I keep saying Kalil Mack shows up for primetime games. There were many on this board that wanted to give up the farm for him. Follow the Belichick way. It's sustainable. These types have a few great years and then fall off. These guys never outperform their second contract. And yes, Jamal Adams is more impactful this season than Kalil Mack.

[RonaldJet 68]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Jamal Adams is worth more than Khalil Mack IMO.  This does not have much to do with their value as players, but Adams is signed cheap (like sub-$1M) through 2020, with a team option for 2021.  Mack is signed through 2024, but he is getting around $17M per.  You  have to clear cap for Mack, not Adams. 

Guys like Mack, Ramsey, and Adams are valuable. All Pro players that look like potential future hall of famers don’t become available in the prime of their careers often.

 

[Barry McCockinner 7,148]

edit: I am we todd did.

[HighPitch 1,544]

Gotta admit.... dislike adams antics but hes compiling a decent number of stats that are now making me want to hold on to this idiot

[Warfish 24,212]

3 hours ago, RonaldJet said:

If someone offers a Khalil Mack type deal for Jamal you gotta pull the trigger. 

The Trade Deadline is passed.

Save this for the off-season please.

[RonaldJet 68]

15 minutes ago, rldev said:

As I keep saying Kalil Mack shows up for primetime games. There were many on this board that wanted to give up the farm for him. Follow the Belichick way. It's sustainable. These types have a few great years and then fall off. These guys never outperform their second contract. And yes, Jamal Adams is more impactful this season than Kalil Mack.

We are seeing it with CJ Moseley. These guys get hurt all the time, and it’s absolutely crippling when that player is taking that much of the cap. 

[RonaldJet 68]

2 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

Gotta admit.... dislike adams antics but hes compiling a decent number of stats that are now making me want to hold on to this idiot

His trade value may be at peak right now.