Is Gase taking too much heat from Jets fans?

[GreekJet]

Trumaine Johnson, Henry Anderson, CJ Mosley, LeVeon Bell, Jamison Crowder, Quincy Enunwa

Those 6 guys take up over 35 percent of the teams cap space. 

Quinnen Williams, Sam Darnold, Marcus Maye, Blessaun Austin, Jordan Jenkins, Chris Herndon

From 2015-2019 (5 drafts) those are current starters of which 4/6 need to be upgraded. 
 

The men responsible for this mess is Mike McCagnan and Christopher Johnson. This season is a culmination of the mess they made with this roster. Gase deserves some blame, but it’s not all on him-not even close. 

[BornJetsFan1983]

1 hour ago, GreekJet said:

Trumaine Johnson, Henry Anderson, CJ Mosley, LeVeon Bell, Jamison Crowder, Quincy Enunwa

Those 6 guys take up over 35 percent of the teams cap space. 

Quinnen Williams, Sam Darnold, Marcus Maye, Blessaun Austin, Jordan Jenkins, Chris Herndon

From 2015-2019 (5 drafts) those are current starters of which 4/6 need to be upgraded. 
 

The men responsible for this mess is Mike McCagnan and Christopher Johnson. This season is a culmination of the mess they made with this roster. Gase deserves some blame, but it’s not all on him-not even close. 

Bud Gase calls the off and they are worst in the league. The worst.

Other teams have crap and coaches give them a shot to win see everyone else in the league.

No arg on the gms sucked and dradttrdt poorlybut and it's a big but, you are acting like our players all blow right now and the vastajority of them only suck because of the terrible HC and the job he is doing. 

Players are forced to run his dumb plays and we suck. Another HC given control tonight would have us score points on Thursday, have us competitive with a game plan and offense suited to our players talent.

So yeah sure gms sucked but Gase deserces all the blame, that's what a HC job is. To win games. Gase is terrible and the only success he has ever had is when a HOF QB told him what the plays were going to be.

Sam literally sucks balls right now and could be great. 

[Nixhead]

Yes Gase is to blame big time! His teams are heavily injured all the time and unprepared. He can't make in game adjustments and he's way too predictable. He also doesn't consistently try and take advantage of the other teams weakness. Jets hit Berrios a few times early in the game and then they don't even attempt another pass his way. Gase is a troll - you know the smart guy that lives under the bridge but never comes out. Gase maybe smart but you need more than brains apparently to run an NFL offense let alone team. Gase has zero of the other characteristics needed. We've all seen enough to know Gase is not and will not be the answer. Make Him Go Away!

[Irish Jet]

Is Mosley’s cap hit not pushed to next year?

[jgb]

I guess being a billionaire means never looking in the mirror and having that flash of realization, “Wow, I am really bad at this.”

[JetsFanatic]

Gase is not doing a good job, but he is getting a disproportionate amount of criticism.   

[GreekJet]

1 hour ago, Irish Jet said:

Is Mosley’s cap hit not pushed to next year?

Nope Mosley only counts for 7.5MM on a the cap next year. 

[New York Mick]

If he was drawn and quartered maybe.

[T0mShane]

If Darnold was playing competitive football, you could forgive the rest, but Darnold looks like he’s shot, so Gase has to take the fall for it.

[Embrace the Suck]

4 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Bud Gase calls the off and they are worst in the league. The worst.

Clearly that has nothing to do with having an absolute dearth of talent on either side of the ball. Gase probably won't survive, but his replacement will still have a putrid roster.

[Scoop24]

Nope i have never seen HC Coach more uncompetitive games then Gase.  I litterally don't have one good thing to say about Gase. 
 

i just hope the jets learned from this find a real HC that knows how to lead a entire team. 

[UnknownJetFan]

4 hours ago, Nixhead said:

Yes Gase is to blame big time! His teams are heavily injured all the time and unprepared. He can't make in game adjustments and he's way too predictable. He also doesn't consistently try and take advantage of the other teams weakness. Jets hit Berrios a few times early in the game and then they don't even attempt another pass his way. Gase is a troll - you know the smart guy that lives under the bridge but never comes out. Gase maybe smart but you need more than brains apparently to run an NFL offense let alone team. Gase has zero of the other characteristics needed. We've all seen enough to know Gase is not and will not be the answer. Make Him Go Away!

What angered me is both solid pass plays to Cager were followed by 1 yard runs that just seemed like a waster of a down and stopping momenturm. Why not keep passing to see if they stop it?. Why not some no huddle?.

[jgb]

13 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Gase is not doing a good job, but he is getting a disproportionate amount of criticism.   

Hey, if you got the time feel free to drive around Highstown, NJ looking for Macc reading the paper at some cafe to kick in the nuts.

[House Jet]

How about San Fran completely destroying the Giants with literal practice squad guys. The Giants are a bad team, yes. However, the 49ers lost pretty much every star player they have. Their backup Mullens looked like the second coming of Joe Montana. 

If youre not sure if Gase is taking the proper amount of blame here, ask yourself this. How would this team look if Kyle Shanahan was coaching them? You could replace Shanahan with about 25 other coaches. Would we be better? Would we play competitive football? I think we would. 

 

Gase is a clown and Chris Johnson is a clown for hiring him. Hopefully he gets the axe Friday. Cant wait

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, House Jet said:

How about San Fran completely destroying the Giants with literal practice squad guys. The Giants are a bad team, yes. However, the 49ers lost pretty much every star player they have. Their backup Mullens looked like the second coming of Joe Montana. 

If youre not sure if Gase is taking the proper amount of blame here, ask yourself this. How would this team look if Kyle Shanahan was coaching them? You could replace Shanahan with about 25 other coaches. Would we be better? Would we play competitive football? I think we would. 

 

Gase is a clown and Chris Johnson is a clown for hiring him. Hopefully he gets the axe Friday. Cant wait

My secret motivation for wanting Gase out is so the national media can shift their focus to what an absolutely awful hire Joe Judge has been.

[FlightBoyz]

Gase's Offensive play calling lacks creativity & ingenuity. It's flat out atrocious & predictable. He has to take heat cause of the way Darnold has performed. 

[JustInFudge]

He had 1 job, develop Sam Darnold.  Sam Darnold, looks like a bust.  Therefore, no, he's not taking too much heat.

And then when you start to factor in how just about everyone that leaves his teams gets better, it's a monster concern.  We had the worst OL I had ever seen last year, 4 of those guys are starting on the best offenses in the league.  Tanny, Parker, Drake, Gesicki, Anderson, etc, etc, etc.  People get away from him and get better, bottom line.

There is nothing more damning to a coach.  Oh, other than being consistently a bottom 5 unit on the side of the ball that you're supposed to be an expert in.

So yeah, Gase is absolute trash and driving this team into the ground every single week.

[T0mShane]

Should also be mentioned that Kenyan Drake is back to averaging 4.1 ypc with one TD and Braxton Berrios is putting up better stats this year than DeVante Parker 

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

People get away from him and get better, bottom line.

 

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Should also be mentioned that Kenyan Drake is back to averaging 4.1 ypc with one TD and Braxton Berrios is putting up better stats this year than DeVante Parker 

Oh wow I was dunking on @JiF at the same time he was typing some gobbledygook.

[Scoop24]

13 minutes ago, FlightBoyz said:

Gase's Offensive play calling lacks creativity & ingenuity. It's flat out atrocious & predictable. He has to take heat cause of the way Darnold has performed. 

your just hating.  He was running motion before every HB dive play to throw the defense off . Thats some top notch creativity lmaoo 

[68JET11]

4 hours ago, Nixhead said:

Yes Gase is to blame big time! His teams are heavily injured all the time and unprepared. He can't make in game adjustments and he's way too predictable. He also doesn't consistently try and take advantage of the other teams weakness. Jets hit Berrios a few times early in the game and then they don't even attempt another pass his way. Gase is a troll - you know the smart guy that lives under the bridge but never comes out. Gase maybe smart but you need more than brains apparently to run an NFL offense let alone team. Gase has zero of the other characteristics needed. We've all seen enough to know Gase is not and will not be the answer. Make Him Go Away!

Spot On...

[rangerous]

Much as gase is the head coach and does deserve much of the heat, it all starts with the oline play.  They are starting 4 new players and they haven’t had enough practice or playing. Add the injuries into the mix and it’s a huge problem. After oline it goes to the wrs. I’m sure there was hope that Perriman, being on a show me contract, would try harder to be on the field. And it is also sad that mims is out with injury. Funny that Berrios has a bad ham string but is playing and playing well. But it’s also unrealistic to think they can have a decent passing game with guys like hogan or Cager being the go to guys. It’s also a little disheartening to see guys like griffin and Herndon not doing well.  Going into the season, darnold had lots of places to throw the ball between the wrs, tes, and rbs.  Not so much at the moment.

At some point the players need to step up. Do they even want to be football players?  Sometimes it seems like they want to mail it in. If this is the case then there is a lot more house cleaning to do.

[ZachEY]

2 hours ago, jgb said:

I guess being a billionaire means never looking in the mirror and having that flash of realization, “Wow, I am really bad at this.”

Same for pretend billionaires.

[JustInFudge]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Should also be mentioned that Kenyan Drake is back to averaging 4.1 ypc with one TD and Braxton Berrios is putting up better stats this year than DeVante Parker 

Look gang - Tom Shane would take Frank Gore over Kenyan Drake and Braxton Berris over Devante Parker.

What does Gase's a$$hole taste like, exactly? 

[Bugg]

41 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

If Darnold was playing competitive football, you could forgive the rest, but Darnold looks like he’s shot, so Gase has to take the fall for it.

Nobody saw this team as a danger to reach the playoffs. But you wanted to see a dangerous QB. Right now Darnold looks lost. Understand the skill guys are ghastly but he's missing open receivers, and his only go to passes are crappy dumpoffs.

Spare 3/4s of Sunday, Gase has for reasons known only to himself declined to  run behind Becton as often as possible. Jets FINALLY get something correct in the draft giving them a mismatch every offensive down. And Gase calls delayed handoffs and crap up the middle way more often than simply letting Big Ticket pancake people for 4-6 yards a clip. No need to be fancy, but Gase appears like many bad OCs hellbent on running "his offense" rather than taking your advantage. This is the height of bad coaching. Your ideal is to keep advancing the ball until they stop you. Assuming Becton is healthy, there isn't any guesswork, but it works, do that. Douglas gives this guy the 2nd coming of Jonathan Ogden and he runs up the middle....

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

Look gang - Tom Shane would take Frank Gore over Kenyan Drake and Braxton Berris over Devante Parker.

What does Gase's a$$hole taste like, exactly? 

All I did was lay out the #facts

[RoadFan]

Gase has no imagination.  Hell, he doesn't even attempt to copy play design from others like Shanahan and Reid.

[Adoni Beast]

Gase is one of the least accountable coaches I have ever heard speak. He is always blaming injuries, or conceding that the other team is just a good team, etc. running the ball, punting with a whole quarter to go. It’s like the Jets continuously find coaches that love quitting before the game is over. Bowles had the same problem. 

Gase isnt even a “CEO Head Coach.” He admittedly doesnt involve himself with the defense or special teams; made that nice and clear during his opening presser. “Whoever I hire as defensive coordinator is really going to need to be the head coach of that defense.”

He was literally brought here to get the most out of Sam Darnold. He didn’t hire a QB coach or even a real offensive coordinator because as Gase had said, he would be spending most of his time with and coaching Sam. Think about that....he was hired as a head coach...given rights to basically focus on one area with hypersensitive focus on one player....and THESE ARE THE RESULTS.

I actually don’t think he’s getting ENOUGH criticism.  

[greenwichjetfan]

12 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Should also be mentioned that Kenyan Drake is back to averaging 4.1 ypc with one TD and Braxton Berrios is putting up better stats this year than DeVante Parker 

Should also be mentioned that Gase has never produced a top 100 offense without Peyton. 

[JustInFudge]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

All I did was lay out the #facts

Frank Gore is averaging 3.4 ypc.  You didnt put that cute little factoid in there.

And wake me up with Braxton Berrios goes for 70+, 1200+ and 9 TD's. 

[68JET11]

45 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Gase is not doing a good job, but he is getting a disproportionate amount of criticism.   

How is that true... The first problem is that he shouldn't have even been considered for this job, but managed to convince P.M. to cover for him so that CJ would hire him. Then he went and pouted through his first draft with Macc, when he should have been helping get his type of players and then got him fired. (Which so far is the only good thing he's actually done here).  I give him credit for getting JD here, however while I like JD, we still have to wait to see how he does next year and beyond. Otherwise Gase is a S*&^show.

[SAR I]

48 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

If Darnold was playing competitive football, you could forgive the rest, but Darnold looks like he’s shot, so Gase has to take the fall for it.

He spent 4 months with Jordan Palmer this offseason. He spent 4 weeks with Adam Gase. 

SAR I

[greenwichjetfan]

28 minutes ago, House Jet said:

How about San Fran completely destroying the Giants with literal practice squad guys. The Giants are a bad team, yes. However, the 49ers lost pretty much every star player they have. Their backup Mullens looked like the second coming of Joe Montana. 

If youre not sure if Gase is taking the proper amount of blame here, ask yourself this. How would this team look if Kyle Shanahan was coaching them? You could replace Shanahan with about 25 other coaches. Would we be better? Would we play competitive football? I think we would. 

 

Gase is a clown and Chris Johnson is a clown for hiring him. Hopefully he gets the axe Friday. Cant wait

Gase’s built in injury excuses are my favorite. As if the HC doesn’t have any control over his staff to administer proper nutrition, conditioning, strengthening, etc., and to understand the role rest plays in practice. It’s not difficult to see that his teams are always injured, and many times they’re related to conditioning. This was a concern coming from Miami and should have been addressed before he got here. Freak/snap injuries are obviously unavoidable, but half of his teams not playing year in year out is absolutely bogus.

Also, once his starters are out, the guy folds up and goes home. He doesn’t even try to win. Remember last year when the Steelers lost their HoF QB, Antonio Brown, and leveon bell, and they still almost made the playoffs with Mason ******* Rudolph? Meanwhile, the 30th ranked QB goes down with Mono and it takes gase’s offenses 3 games to pick up 1 first down. 

[SAR I]

33 minutes ago, FlightBoyz said:

Gase's Offensive play calling lacks creativity & ingenuity. It's flat out atrocious & predictable. He has to take heat cause of the way Darnold has performed. 

Adam Gase inherited an awful Idzik/Maccagnan roster and it’s always injured. No one could be creative on gameday with the weakest receiving corps in the NFL, weakest OL in the NFL, weakest ground game in the NFL.  If you think a coaching change would make any difference you are sadly mistaken.

The fact that Gase is 6-5 in his last 11 games is a miracle unto itself.  

SAR I

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, greenwichjetfan said:

As if the HC doesn’t have any control over his staff to administer proper nutrition, conditioning, strengthening, etc., and to understand the role rest plays in practice. It’s not difficult to see that his teams are always injured, and many times they’re related to conditioning.

Wow. Really going in on Kyle Shanahan and Sean Payton here. Damn.