Game Observations (KC)

[KRL]

Shocked that the game was as competitive as it was.  To be honest I
expected KC to score 35 points in the first half.  But in the end
the Jets stayed true to form and they're half way to the #1 pick:

- Its now certain, LeVeon Bell is done.  In an offense as explosive
as KC he looked exactly like he did with the Jets.  No speed, no
power, no nothing.  Credit to the fans who doubted him last year
they were right

- I know Eric Bieniemy is going to be mentioned as a HC candidate for
the Jets.  But I question what is he actually responsible for?  He
doesn't call plays, Andy Reid does and when Mahomes was on the bench
he was reviewing plays with Mike Kafka (QB Coach).  So what exactly
would he bring to the table?

- Denzel Mims had a another good first half (2 recs / 42 yds).  But
then had only one target for the rest of the game.  KC CB's aren't that
good, Mims needed to be force fed targets to speed up his development.
He's the only WR that played who is assured of being on the roster next
year, he needed to be featured

- LaMical Perine has to replace Frank Gore and get the majority of reps.
Again just like Mims he's the only RB who is assured of being on the team
next year.  Push his development

- Wow!!! Chris Herndon's game is absolute trash!!!  He either disappears,
drops balls or catches balls them immediately fumbles them.  WHAT HAPPENED
TO THIS GUY???

- Bless Austin shows an excellent ability to tackle.  Now he has to develop
in coverage because he got roasted today.  I guess Gregg Williams was scared
to play press coverage (understandable against KC) because Austin gave up a
ton of space to the WR off the snap

- Good to see Ashtyn Davis in the starting line up but he has a long way to
go.  Gave up way too much space to Kelce in the middle of the field.  And he
got turned around and roasted on one of Hill's TD's   

- Quinnen Williams (3 Tkls, 2 TFL, QB Hit) and John Franklin-Myers (3 Tkls, 
TFL) continued to show the ability to disrupt and get into the backfield

QB Present/Future 

- My biggest take away from Sam Darnold today is the continued deep ball
inaccuracy.  The game was 21-9 at the end of the first half and Jeff Smith
beat his man by 2 steps and Darnold missed him by 2-3 yards!!!  That should've
been a layup TD to make the score 21-16 with the Jets getting the ball to
start the second half.  They wouldn't have won the game but a third year QB
has to make that throw

Which brings us to the possible QB's of the future Trevor Lawrence and
Justin Fields.  Both of whom have shown terrific deep ball accuracy in their
careers, here's a little comparison I did:
 
If Trevor Lawrence is a "generational talent" then what is Justin Fields?
Because as I've watched them play the only differences I see between the
two are 3 inches in height and games played because Fields basically 
"redshirted" his first year at Georgia:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trevor-lawrence-1.html  

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/justin-fields-2.html  

Fields first year playing full time (2019) matches Lawrence first year (2018):

Comp %:    Fields 67%  -  Lawrence 65%
Yards:         Fields 3273 -  Lawrence 3280
TD/INT:      Fields 41/3  -  Lawrence 30/4

[Spoot-Face]

Good observations, as always @KRL.

[Warfish]

11 minutes ago, KRL said:

- I know Eric Bieniemy is going to be mentioned as a HC candidate for
the Jets.  But I question what is he actually responsible for?  He
doesn't call plays, Andy Reid does and when Mahomes was on the bench
he was reviewing plays with Mike Kafka (QB Coach).  So what exactly
would he bring to the table?

Nothing.  

He's an empty jacket with an empty title.  The Chiefs Offense is Andy Reid.

Which is why I totally expect the Jets to hire Bieniemy.

It's Gase all over again, that offense was all Peyton Manning, but we hired the go-get-some-coffee-Mr. "Coordinator", and our Owner thinks he's a genius running the worst Offense in NFL history (or so it feels).

Now we'll hire Andy Reid's clipboard holder.  Typical Jets.

[rangerous]

2 minutes ago, KRL said:

Shocked that the game was as competitive as it was.  To be honest I
expected KC to score 35 points in the first half.  But in the end
the Jets stayed true to form and they're half way to the #1 pick:

- Its now certain, LeVeon Bell is done.  In an offense as explosive
as KC he looked exactly like he did with the Jets.  No speed, no
power, no nothing.  Credit to the fans who doubted him last year
they were right

- I know Eric Bieniemy is going to be mentioned as a HC candidate for
the Jets.  But I question what is he actually responsible for?  He
doesn't call plays, Andy Reid does and when Mahomes was on the bench
he was reviewing plays with Mike Kafka (QB Coach).  So what exactly
would he bring to the table?

- Denzel Mims had a another good first half (2 recs / 42 yds).  But
then had only one target for the rest of the game.  KC CB's aren't that
good, Mims needed to be force fed targets to speed up his development.
He's the only WR that played who is assured of being on the roster next
year, he needed to be featured

- LaMical Perine has to replace Frank Gore and get the majority of reps.
Again just like Mims he's the only RB who is assured of being on the team
next year.  Push his development

- Wow!!! Chris Herndon's game is absolute trash!!!  He either disappears,
drops balls or catches balls them immediately fumbles them.  WHAT HAPPENED
TO THIS GUY???

- Bless Austin shows an excellent ability to tackle.  Now he has to develop
in coverage because he got roasted today.  I guess Gregg Williams was scared
to play press coverage (understandable against KC) because Austin gave up a
ton of space to the WR off the snap

- Good to see Ashtyn Davis in the starting line up but he has a long way to
go.  Gave up way too much space to Kelce in the middle of the field.  And he
got turned around and roasted on one of Hill's TD's   

- Quinnen Williams (3 Tkls, 2 TFL, QB Hit) and John Franklin-Myers (3 Tkls, 
TFL) continued to show the ability to disrupt and get into the backfield

QB Present/Future 

- My biggest take away from Sam Darnold today is the continued deep ball
inaccuracy.  The game was 21-9 at the end of the first half and Jeff Smith
beat his man by 2 steps and Darnold missed him by 2-3 yards!!!  That should've
been a layup TD to make the score 21-16 with the Jets getting the ball to
start the second half.  They wouldn't have won the game but a third year QB
has to make that throw

Which brings us to the possible QB's of the future Trevor Lawrence and
Justin Fields.  Both of whom have shown terrific deep ball accuracy in their
careers, here's a little comparison I did:
 
If Trevor Lawrence is a "generational talent" then what is Justin Fields?
Because as I've watched them play the only differences I see between the
two are 3 inches in height and games played because Fields basically 
"redshirted" his first year at Georgia:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trevor-lawrence-1.html  

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/justin-fields-2.html  

Fields first year playing full time (2019) matches Lawrence first year (2018):

Comp %:    Fields 67%  -  Lawrence 65%
Yards:         Fields 3273 -  Lawrence 3280
TD/INT:      Fields 41/3  -  Lawrence 30/4

Good points. I didn’t exactly see bell run wild. Interesting that he didn’t play much in the second half. Hamstrings?

i think darnold’s shoulder isn’t so great. We all saw how chaddy went from an occasionally good long ball to a non existent one when he has his shoulder problems.  There were also a few drops. Mims and Berrios both dropped balls they should have caught.  Darnold is also under tons of pressure. The lack of reliable receivers plus the pass rush aren’t helping.

As for the defense, they played well at times but Mahomes has too many really good players to throw to. And he’s mobile enough to avoid the pass rush. It was one of those games where the points given up aren’t a true indication of how the defense played.  And they did keep bell well in check.

[Alka]

Great analysis.  I think that Herndon must have some physical problem that is preventing him from being the player he once was.  It just doesn't make sense to me that he is this bad.

I feel that JD should be telling Gase to get Perine more carries, make sure Ashtyn Davis is always on the field, and to feature Mims to get him the ball more.

I have zero confidence in Gase doing this on his own.

[rangerous]

1 minute ago, Warfish said:

Nothing.  

He's an empty jacket with an empty title.  The Chiefs Offense is Andy Reid.

Which is why I totally expect the Jets to hire Bieniemy.

It's Gase all over again, that offense was all Peyton Manning, but we hired the go-get-some-coffee-Mr. "Coordinator", and our Owner thinks he's a genius running the worst Offense in NFL history (or so it feels).

Now we'll hire Andy Reid's clipboard holder.  Typical Jets.

I certainly hope they pass on this guy. One of the blurbs said the chiefs were no. 7 or so in offense.  With all those weapons?  Of course they did have over 400 yds passing.

[Jetster]

16 minutes ago, KRL said:

Shocked that the game was as competitive as it was.  To be honest I
expected KC to score 35 points in the first half.  But in the end
the Jets stayed true to form and they're half way to the #1 pick:

- Its now certain, LeVeon Bell is done.  In an offense as explosive
as KC he looked exactly like he did with the Jets.  No speed, no
power, no nothing.  Credit to the fans who doubted him last year
they were right

- I know Eric Bieniemy is going to be mentioned as a HC candidate for
the Jets.  But I question what is he actually responsible for?  He
doesn't call plays, Andy Reid does and when Mahomes was on the bench
he was reviewing plays with Mike Kafka (QB Coach).  So what exactly
would he bring to the table?

- Denzel Mims had a another good first half (2 recs / 42 yds).  But
then had only one target for the rest of the game.  KC CB's aren't that
good, Mims needed to be force fed targets to speed up his development.
He's the only WR that played who is assured of being on the roster next
year, he needed to be featured

- LaMical Perine has to replace Frank Gore and get the majority of reps.
Again just like Mims he's the only RB who is assured of being on the team
next year.  Push his development

- Wow!!! Chris Herndon's game is absolute trash!!!  He either disappears,
drops balls or catches balls them immediately fumbles them.  WHAT HAPPENED
TO THIS GUY???

- Bless Austin shows an excellent ability to tackle.  Now he has to develop
in coverage because he got roasted today.  I guess Gregg Williams was scared
to play press coverage (understandable against KC) because Austin gave up a
ton of space to the WR off the snap

- Good to see Ashtyn Davis in the starting line up but he has a long way to
go.  Gave up way too much space to Kelce in the middle of the field.  And he
got turned around and roasted on one of Hill's TD's   

- Quinnen Williams (3 Tkls, 2 TFL, QB Hit) and John Franklin-Myers (3 Tkls, 
TFL) continued to show the ability to disrupt and get into the backfield

QB Present/Future 

- My biggest take away from Sam Darnold today is the continued deep ball
inaccuracy.  The game was 21-9 at the end of the first half and Jeff Smith
beat his man by 2 steps and Darnold missed him by 2-3 yards!!!  That should've
been a layup TD to make the score 21-16 with the Jets getting the ball to
start the second half.  They wouldn't have won the game but a third year QB
has to make that throw

Which brings us to the possible QB's of the future Trevor Lawrence and
Justin Fields.  Both of whom have shown terrific deep ball accuracy in their
careers, here's a little comparison I did:
 
If Trevor Lawrence is a "generational talent" then what is Justin Fields?
Because as I've watched them play the only differences I see between the
two are 3 inches in height and games played because Fields basically 
"redshirted" his first year at Georgia:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trevor-lawrence-1.html  

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/justin-fields-2.html  

Fields first year playing full time (2019) matches Lawrence first year (2018):

Comp %:    Fields 67%  -  Lawrence 65%
Yards:         Fields 3273 -  Lawrence 3280
TD/INT:      Fields 41/3  -  Lawrence 30/4

What that says it’s a GREAT year to finish with the 1st or 2nd pick!

[Torus34]

The Chiefs were as expected in offense. The team seems to at times sleepwalk through the first half. Halftime, though, they get outside a good strong cup of coffee and really wake up. The Jets, meanwhile, tend toward the opposite. The offense can start off a game looking like a 8-8 team, but it's soon obvious that something happens to their ability whenever they reach the red zone. In the second half the Jets lose interest in scoring. Were a Jets game a boxing match, I'd expect the umpire, somewhere in the second half, to throw his arms around the Jets QB and wave off the rest of the game. But football isn't boxing. The hopeless match continues to the end.

 

This is not to say that the Jets defense didn't do a fine job on occasion. Mr. Samuel Darnold, especially in the first half when he concentrated on quickly-released short passes into the secondary, did well. But that was that. Once again, penalty flags hurt.

 

 

[addage]

Great post.  You have years of outstanding commentary!

[CanadienJetsFan]

Thanks for the recap @KRL

Wow, no TDs again this week, huh?

I’m glad I went golfing again.

I’d like to take this opportunity to thank the entire Jet organization, CJ, JD, AG, GW, heck even the trainers, for making the choice of whether or not to play on Sundays a no-brainer.

My handicap is now in the single digits.

[Matt39]

Havent been impressed with Perine. Gets the yards he's given and nothing else. 

[ChuckkieB]

Mims and Perine need to be featured the rest of the way or this team is spinning it's wheels.  The GM needs to have the ability to tell the HC that the rookies have to play during a lost season.  Gore touching the ball as much as he did this game is a friggin joke.

[SOJ]

I would add Smith needs to refine his routes and not lollygag some routes ...he almost cost an int.  

What about the OL and C...second week in a row where they got manhandled...  

[Hael]

I don’t think there are many positives to take away from this game at all.

Perrine didn’t look good.  Darnold continues to regress, I think he might be gone soon.  

Our entire defense got smashed.  Zero pass rush.  Zero discipline and a lot of hero ball.  Lbs that can’t cover.  Cornerbacks who are miles away from their marks. Safeties that can’t cover.  KC guys were so wide open at times that they were dropping balls bc they were so surprised.

special teams is a joke.

coaching is bad...  

[carlito1171]

1 hour ago, ChuckkieB said:

Mims and Perine need to be featured the rest of the way or this team is spinning it's wheels.  The GM needs to have the ability to tell the HC that the rookies have to play during a lost season.  Gore touching the ball as much as he did this game is a friggin joke.

This is what happens when you keep a coach that’s trying salvage his dignity and doesn’t care about the future of the team

[New York Mick]

It would of been easier to just say they suck. 

[jeremy2020]

2 hours ago, KRL said:

- I know Eric Bieniemy is going to be mentioned as a HC candidate for
the Jets.  But I question what is he actually responsible for?  He
doesn't call plays, Andy Reid does and when Mahomes was on the bench
he was reviewing plays with Mike Kafka (QB Coach).  So what exactly
would he bring to the table?

Apparently getting Peyton Coffee 2 seasons meant Gase should be a head coach for two different NFL teams

Being Reid's assistant for 70 years means Bienemy should be God Emperor of Dune

[Sonny Werblin]

As Bart Scott said today, how is anyone supposed to know what kind of QB Darnold is when his receivers can’t catch and his line can’t block.

The young man will get to start over somewhere else next season, but what the Jets have done to him is epically tragic.

[Jimmy 2 Times]

I'm not sure who I was more wrong about:

Darnold or Herdon?

Trash and garbage.

[LIJetsFan]

I wouldn't be surprised if we find out some day that Sam's shoulder is already f**ked.    

[peebag]

1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said:

As Bart Scott said today, how is anyone supposed to know what kind of QB Darnold is when his receivers can’t catch and his line can’t block.

The young man will get to start over somewhere else next season, but what the Jets have done to him is epically tragic.

And they'll do the same to the next QB prospect we bring in

[slimjasi]

4 hours ago, Alka said:

Great analysis.  I think that Herndon must have some physical problem that is preventing him from being the player he once was.  It just doesn't make sense to me that he is this bad.

I feel that JD should be telling Gase to get Perine more carries, make sure Ashtyn Davis is always on the field, and to feature Mims to get him the ball more.

I have zero confidence in Gase doing this on his own.

His confidence is shot. 

Happens to young players sometimes, especially guys coming back from injury

[jetstream23]

5 hours ago, KRL said:

 

- Wow!!! Chris Herndon's game is absolute trash!!!  He either disappears,
drops balls or catches balls them immediately fumbles them.  WHAT HAPPENED
TO THIS GUY???

 

Serious question - Do we think there's any kind of coaching or pressure issue with some of the guys who are regressing this year and/or last year?  Is the offensive coaching for guys like Darnold, Herndon, etc. making them somewhat tight or constraining them in the system in any way.  Maybe asking Herndon to run significantly different routes than he did in his rookie year?  It's no excuse for poor performance but he seems like such a different player now.  It's almost like Invasion of the Body Snatchers and there's someone else in Herndon's body.  

 

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- Quinnen Williams (3 Tkls, 2 TFL, QB Hit) and John Franklin-Myers (3 Tkls, 
TFL) continued to show the ability to disrupt and get into the backfield

 

One thing I'd really like to see on this Forum is a recognition that "Because Maccagnan" is not a reason for giving up on a player.  Simply because Macc had such a horrible track record with some scouting and draft decisions (Hackenberg, Darron Lee, WRs Stewart, Hansen, etc.) does not automatically mean EVERY player he selected is bad.  QW looks like he could become an absolute stud.  This is precisely the kind of progress we want to see in Year 2 and he's been doing it for multiple games.  JD's trading of Leo Williams and now McClendon will put more focus on QW and has created an opportunity for him to be the guy....I think he's starting to seize that opportunity.

This is the kind of thing we'd want to see at other positions with younger guys.  Get rid of Bell...give Perine 15 touches minimum a game.  McDougald hurt, get Davis on the field more....as painful as it may be right now, etc.

 

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QB Present/Future 

- My biggest take away from Sam Darnold today is the continued deep ball
inaccuracy.  The game was 21-9 at the end of the first half and Jeff Smith
beat his man by 2 steps and Darnold missed him by 2-3 yards!!!  That should've
been a layup TD to make the score 21-16 with the Jets getting the ball to
start the second half.  They wouldn't have won the game but a third year QB
has to make that throw

Which brings us to the possible QB's of the future Trevor Lawrence and
Justin Fields.  Both of whom have shown terrific deep ball accuracy in their
careers, here's a little comparison I did:
 
If Trevor Lawrence is a "generational talent" then what is Justin Fields?
Because as I've watched them play the only differences I see between the
two are 3 inches in height and games played because Fields basically 
"redshirted" his first year at Georgia:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trevor-lawrence-1.html  

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/justin-fields-2.html  

Fields first year playing full time (2019) matches Lawrence first year (2018):

Comp %:    Fields 67%  -  Lawrence 65%
Yards:         Fields 3273 -  Lawrence 3280
TD/INT:      Fields 41/3  -  Lawrence 30/4

 

This is good stuff.  Fields may not get the credit he deserves simply because of Lawrence looking like the best QB prospect in 5-10 years.  I'd wonder how much attention Fields would be getting if there wasn't a Lawrence this year!

Just out of curiosity, can you throw Darnold's first full season up there too?

Interesting Game Observations as always KRL!

 

EDIT:  I think I did it using your website.  Maybe you can confirm.  2016 first year playing full time for Darnold...

Comp %:    Fields 67%  -  Lawrence 65% - Darnold 67%
Yards:         Fields 3273 -  Lawrence 3280 - Darnold 3086
TD/INT:      Fields 41/3  -  Lawrence 30/4 - Darnold 31/9

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sam-darnold-1.html

[KRL]

47 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Serious question - Do we think there's any kind of coaching or pressure issue with some of the guys who are regressing this year and/or last year?  Is the offensive coaching for guys like Darnold, Herndon, etc. making them somewhat tight or constraining them in the system in any way.  Maybe asking Herndon to run significantly different routes than he did in his rookie year?  It's no excuse for poor performance but he seems like such a different player now.  It's almost like Invasion of the Body Snatchers and there's someone else in Herndon's body.  

 

 

One thing I'd really like to see on this Forum is a recognition that "Because Maccagnan" is not a reason for giving up on a player.  Simply because Macc had such a horrible track record with some scouting and draft decisions (Hackenberg, Darron Lee, WRs Stewart, Hansen, etc.) does not automatically mean EVERY player he selected is bad.  QW looks like he could become an absolute stud.  This is precisely the kind of progress we want to see in Year 2 and he's been doing it for multiple games.  JD's trading of Leo Williams and now McClendon will put more focus on QW and has created an opportunity for him to be the guy....I think he's starting to seize that opportunity.

This is the kind of thing we'd want to see at other positions with younger guys.  Get rid of Bell...give Perine 15 touches minimum a game.  McDougald hurt, get Davis on the field more....as painful as it may be right now, etc.

 

 

This is good stuff.  Fields may not get the credit he deserves simply because of Lawrence looking like the best QB prospect in 5-10 years.  I'd wonder how much attention Fields would be getting if there wasn't a Lawrence this year!

Just out of curiosity, can you throw Darnold's first full season up there too?

Interesting Game Observations as always KRL!

 

EDIT:  I think I did it using your website.  Maybe you can confirm.  2016 first year playing full time for Darnold...

Comp %:    Fields 67%  -  Lawrence 65% - Darnold 67%
Yards:         Fields 3273 -  Lawrence 3280 - Darnold 3086
TD/INT:      Fields 41/3  -  Lawrence 30/4 - Darnold 31/9

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sam-darnold-1.html

That's the site, Darnold would've been rated third and had way more INT's

[joewilly12]

1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we find out some day that Sam's shoulder is already f**ked.    

Maybe tomorrow.

[LIJetsFan]

47 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Maybe tomorrow.

No this FO will never disclose that if in fact that is the case.  It's almost like just deny you know what is really going on and in the future when the truth comes out you stonewall your ignorance till the news cycle moves on.      

[jetstream23]

1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said:

No this FO will never disclose that if in fact that is the case.  It's almost like just deny you know what is really going on and in the future when the truth comes out you stonewall your ignorance till the news cycle moves on.      

Well, if Darnold gets the Avery treatment and is sent somewhere for a 5th round pick we might know.

[BurnleyJet]

Darnold to IR I’m calling it now. No need to roll him out, he’s done. Hopefully get a second in 2021.

[win4ever]

Ended up watching a decent amount of this game because I hate myself.   

Darnold just doesn't seem to have the deep ball accuracy, seems to have regressed.  Even last year, he seemed better at this, but his throws seem more flat footed.  Defenses are just jumping the short and intermediate.  

What exactly are we doing with the OL coaching?  Pretty much every QB I see, seems to at least have time in the pocket, even with injuries and no name guys.  We get like league average guys and instantly turn to crap.  

Speed Kills............if you actually use the speed.  What is the point of having Mims/Smith/Berrios/Vincent Smith if you rarely take shots down the field?

I'm not that high on Beinenmy (Sp?) because he's not that involved in the game planning with Reid.  Nagy hasn't developed Tribusky, Pederson has gone backwards with Wentz, and Morinhweg, we saw for ourselves.  Reid is a great coach, but I'm not sold on his assistants.  I want a guy that actually has an offensive system, Air Raid, Spread, whatever.  I'm tired of looking for these QB whisperers because QBs can't seem to hear them.  I want someone that can innovate or add modern aspects to a game, rather than the same retread ideas.  

We knew this game was a loss, but it sucks to see an aggressive offense function in person.  

[pajet]

9 hours ago, rangerous said:

i think darnold’s shoulder isn’t so great. We all saw how chaddy went from an occasionally good long ball to a non existent one when he has his shoulder problems.

Darnold has had problems with the deep ball since he got here.  I liked him and wanted him to work out....but lets call a spade a spade.   His deep ball has always sucked, shoulder or no.  His game in general....meh.   He has regressed under Gase.   He was a gunslinger making something out of nothing coming out.   Gase tried to make him a system QB euthanizing his big asset and highlighting his weaknesses.  He's afraid to make a decision, therefore makes mistakes constantly....not all his fault but probably not fixable at this point....it is what it is.

[peebag]

7 hours ago, pajet said:

Darnold has had problems with the deep ball since he got here.  I liked him and wanted him to work out....but lets call a spade a spade.   His deep ball has always sucked, shoulder or no.  His game in general....meh.   He has regressed under Gase.   He was a gunslinger making something out of nothing coming out.   Gase tried to make him a system QB euthanizing his big asset and highlighting his weaknesses.  He's afraid to make a decision, therefore makes mistakes constantly....not all his fault but probably not fixable at this point....it is what it is.

yea suspect arm

 

[Jetsfan80]

16 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

As Bart Scott said today, how is anyone supposed to know what kind of QB Darnold is when his receivers can’t catch and his line can’t block.

I'll be fine with letting another team find out the hard way that he's actually trash, coughing up a high pick in the process.

[THE BARON]

18 hours ago, Warfish said:

Nothing.  

He's an empty jacket with an empty title.  The Chiefs Offense is Andy Reid.

Which is why I totally expect the Jets to hire Bieniemy.

It's Gase all over again, that offense was all Peyton Manning, but we hired the go-get-some-coffee-Mr. "Coordinator", and our Owner thinks he's a genius running the worst Offense in NFL history (or so it feels).

Now we'll hire Andy Reid's clipboard holder.  Typical Jets.

I think Greg Roman is a much more likely hire.  He's the smart pick and he has ties to JD

[pajet]

6 hours ago, peebag said:

yea suspect arm

 

Wasn't really questioning the arm strength....more so the accuracy.   He has overthrown multiple open receivers deep.