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Good for Dak. He bet on himself, and win big
And most of this board thought he was crazy for doing so, and that there was no way he'd get 40 mil per year

Getting $40M and being worth it are two different things.
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2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Wow! Good for him.

If anyone thinks Deshaun Watson is playing for $10mm next year you're insane.

That's a really good point.  But would Texans play hardball with him and see if he sits out? Don't see him doing that. 10M is nothing to sneeze at.  

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23 minutes ago, clayton163v said:

Look at Dak's wide receivers, offensive lineman and running back.  Then look at ours.

Not only weapponzzz... but trust too.

Dak's coaches will let him throw it 50 times a game.  Genoldchez coaches don't wanna throw so much.

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2 hours ago, MichaelScott said:

They seemingly didn't want to pay him 40mil+ the last couple seasons but finally give him the contract after he broke his leg off? Great for Dak after what he went through this season, just not sure I get the logic on the Cowboys side. 

What's Jerry supposed to do? Trade for Darnold. ?

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7 minutes ago, Barton said:

Jerry Jones single handedly ruining the QB market for the next several years. Dake has 1 playoff victory and a bunch of ehhh moments. Good lord. What is he is the 4th best player on his own offense? 

Jerry Jones believes in Dak Prescott. 

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Do the Jets sign Darnold to 25 mill a year if the Jets go 10-6 and win a wild card game? Thanks, Jerry.

I could see Watson getting this kind of $$. Dak? Dak?? Do people watch the games? He's a good player but with a cast of superior players around him, and his team never goes anywhere. Thrown for more than 25 TDs just once in his career. Cowboys are going NOWHERE. 

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1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

in 2019 Dak Prescott 4902 yards 30 TD's 11 INT's 

Sam Darnold his entire career stats dont equal that. 

In 2020 Dak Prescott played 5 games before his injury 1856 yards 9TD's  4 INT's 

In 2020 Sam Darnold played 12 games 2208 yards 9 TD's 11 INT's 

 

Yeah,  Dak is a slightly above average QB. We aren't  talking about a talent like Brees, Rogers, or Mahomes. He isn't  worth this money. The Cowboys are idiots. The comparison was based on Dak not being a great talent. He plays on a team that is on the talent level of KC as far as skill positions.  Funny thing though,  for this kind of money,  Dak has one playoff victory more than Sam.

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16 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

Yeah,  Dak is a slightly above average QB. We aren't  talking about a talent like Brees, Rogers, or Mahomes. He isn't  worth this money. The Cowboys are idiots. The comparison was based on Dak not being a great talent. He plays on a team that is on the talent level of KC as far as skill positions.  Funny thing though,  for this kind of money,  Dak has one playoff victory more than Sam.

Who do you think has the brighter future as far as wins and playoff possibly Super Bowl appearances and will be in the NFL longer.

Darnold or Prescott. 

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You Darnoldians and Dakhaterians don't know what good QB'ing is because you've probably never seen it.

Since 2000, the Jets have had just one good season of QB'ing and it was the Fitzmagic year.  No wonder you don't know what good QB'ing looks like

Get NFL RedZone.  Catch up.

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12 Years of Super Bowl Winning Quarterbacks; Their salary at the time of winning the SB 

 

2020 Tom Brady 28 Million, (including all achieved incentives) below market  deal

2019 Patrick Mahomes.  4 Million, including signing bonus (on a rookie contract)

2018 Tom Brady  15 Million ( by extending/spreading signing bonus past deal over 4 years)

2017  Nick Foles   4.4 Million ( Carson Wentz injured but on a rookie contract 6.6 Million)) 

2016 Tom Brady   14.7 Million ( by extending/spreading signing bonus past deal over 4 years)

2015 Peyton Manning   15 Million (took a 5 Million pay cut)

2014 Tom Brady   19 Million (2013 the Pats got a huge break on a 3 year contract)

2013  Russell Willson   526 K (169 K  performance Bonus) on a rookie contract

2012 Joe Flacco  6.76 Million rookie contract (then signed a big contract, never returned to SB) 

2011 Eli Manning. 16.25 Million

2010 Aaron Rodgers 10.5 Million

2009 Drew Brees  12.9 Million

* * *

So many things have to go right to win a Super Bowl. Having a 40 Million a year quarterback eating up over 20% of your salary cap makes winning a Super Bowl that much harder. 

Even allowing for the significantly lower salary caps in the previous twelve years, we have only ever seen one quarterback ever win the Super Bowl with a combined total salary over 20 million for the year they won the Super Bowl and that was  just over a month ago, Tom Brady and Tampa Bay's  28 million, below market deal.

Even if Mahomes had won it this year, he only counted for 10 Million against the cap in the first year of his mega deal. Mahomes has a low, low cap figure for two more years, after 2023 (like so many teams) the Chiefs are gambling heavily on the  salary cap exploding upwards. If it doesn't their roster will suffer because of Mahomes contract.

In these twelve most recent years, the QBs on rookie deals who have managed to win a super bowl, on their subsequent post-rookie contract, market value deal...none have yet to return and win the super bowl.

This is only a twelve year sample size but it suggests, that winning a super bowl with even a top ten qb on a top of the market deal is damnably hard.

 

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22 minutes ago, Gangrene said:

 

So many things have to go right to win a Super Bowl. Having a 40 Million a year quarterback eating up over 20% of your salary cap makes winning a Super Bowl that much harder. 

Even allowing for the significantly lower salary caps in the previous twelve years, we have only ever seen one quarterback ever win the Super Bowl with a combined total salary over 20 million for the year they won the Super Bowl and that was  just over a month ago, Tom Brady and Tampa Bay's  28 million, below market deal.

Even if Mahomes had won it this year, he only counted for 10 Million against the cap in the first year of his mega deal. Mahomes has a low, low cap figure for two more years, after 2023 (like so many teams) the Chiefs are gambling heavily on the  salary cap exploding upwards. If it doesn't their roster will suffer because of Mahomes contract.

In these twelve most recent years, the QBs on rookie deals who have managed to win a super bowl, on their subsequent post-rookie contract, market value deal...none have yet to return and win the super bowl.

This is only a twelve year sample size but it suggests, that winning a super bowl with even a top ten qb on a top of the market deal is damnably hard.

 

12 Years of Super Bowl Winning Quarterbacks; Their salary at the time of winning the SB 

 

2020 Tom Brady 28 Million, (including all achieved incentives) below market  deal

2019 Patrick Mahones.  4 Million, including signing bonus (on a rookie contract)

2018 Tom Brady  15 Million ( by extending/spreading signing bonus past deal over 4 years)

2017  Nick Foles   4.4 Million ( Carson Wentz injured but on a rookie contract 6.6 Million)) 

2016 Tom Brady   14.7 Million ( by extending/spreading signing bonus past deal over 4 years)

2015 Peyton Manning   15 Million (took a 5 Million pay cut)

2014 Tom Brady   19 Million (2013 the Pats got a huge break on a 3 year contract)

2013  Russell Willson   526 K (169 K  performance Bonus) on a rookie contract

2012 Joe Flacco  6.76 Million rookie contract (then signed a big contract, never returned to SB) 

2011 Eli Manning. 16.25 Million

2010 Aaron Rodgers 10.5 Million

2009 Drew Brees  12.9 Million

 

 

Dallas has something like 5 or or 6 players accounting for 67% of the cap. They better hit on their draft picks. Jerry definitely should have not handed out extensions to Zeek and Jaylon Smith. He lost Byron Jones last year and will lose Gallup next year as a result. 

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55 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Who do you think has the brighter future as far as wins and playoff possibly Super Bowl appearances and will be in the NFL longer.

Darnold or Prescott. 

How can you even compare them? Dak plays behind the best OL in the NFL, has a top 3 RB to hand off to, has a ture #1 WR, in Cooper and his 2 and 3 are Gallup and Lamb. The only spot that O isn't  loaded at is TE.

You want to compare that to what Sam has been playing with? Dak should be in the SB every season. 

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the QB money is out of control. Dallas was in between a rock and a hard place. what were they going to do let him go? then what? bring in Bridgewater? Darnold? 

i dont like Dak, i dont think hes all that good, but he has to be between 10-15 of the best QBs in the league. 

the NFLPA needs to work with the owners and put a cap on QB salaries. seriously. there hurting the other players. how many players cant get what the deserve because theres no money left cause the QB is eating up so much cap space.

but of course the NFLPA would never do that even though it hurts 90% of its members. and raising the cap will just make the QBs get even bigger contracts. they of course want to get rid of the cap. but the owners will never do it. 

cant blame Jerry, he was the next guy. and the next QB whos pretty good will get the same. hell if Sam was a decent QB we would be paying him similar money next year.

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4 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

How can you even compare them? Dak plays behind the best OL in the NFL, has a top 3 RB to hand off to, has a ture #1 WR, in Cooper and his 2 and 3 are Gallup and Lamb. The only spot that O isn't  loaded at is TE.

You want to compare that to what Sam has been playing with? Dak should be in the SB every season. 

Football isn’t a team sport you Sam-lover

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7 hours ago, doitny said:

the NFLPA needs to work with the owners and put a cap on QB salaries. seriously. there hurting the other players. how many players cant get what the deserve because theres no money left cause the QB is eating up so much cap space.

Teams should be allowed to designate one player salary that doesn’t count against the cap, but which can’t be applied to a free agent. Most teams will use it on their QB, and it doesn’t penalize them for picking a great player. 

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10 hours ago, clayton163v said:

Look at Dak's wide receivers, offensive lineman and running back.  Then look at ours.

Thank you Dak was in a great offensive team the Jets not so much!

Let Dak have the worst OL in the NFL , no HOF RB and no great WRs!!!!

$40 Million for Dak is NUTS!!!  Sam Darnold can definitely get to his level with the Dallas talent around him!!

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