Popular Post JTJet Posted September 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 Man the takes here are so over the top in either direction. Lay out the facts... 1- Wirfs was the safer and more stable pick to being with. Everyone knew it. JD even stated he picked Becton for upside. 2- Becton WAS out of shape last year, by his own admission, and you could see it on field. 3- Becton had a decent rookie campaign when he was on the field, nothing all pro, but looked to have a bright future. 4- Becton did NOT deserve any ROY awards last year (what the actual **** lol) 5- Wirfs was the obvious better player by season end. 6- Becton came into camp THIS year in much better shape. 7- Becton got his lunch money stolen all training camp. 8- Becton looked absolutely atrocious this game and nearly got Zach killed. 9- When Becton went out, the offense DID player better, regardless of game plan. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Becton apologists are so funny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Hate to see it, two of the premiere position players (LT, DE) on the team didnt even make it through Week 1 is some incredibly bad luck. Glad that we signed Moses, even though Fant sucks Edoga or McDermott are worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, JTJet said: Man the takes here are so over the top in either direction. Lay out the facts... 1- Wirfs was the safer and more stable pick to being with. Everyone knew it. JD even stated he picked Becton for upside. 2- Becton WAS out of shape last year, by his own admission, and you could see it on field. 3- Becton had a decent rookie campaign when he was on the field, nothing all pro, but looked to have a bright future. 4- Becton did NOT deserve any ROY awards last year (what the actual **** lol) 5- Wirfs was the obvious better player by season end. 6- Becton came into camp THIS year in much better shape. 7- Becton got his lunch money stolen all training camp. 8- Becton looked absolutely atrocious this game and nearly got Zach killed. 9- When Becton went out, the offense DID player better, regardless of game plan. I want to argue, but that is all true. What is bizarre, Becton showed up in shape, and proceeded to have an awful camp. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I thought I was a miserable, cynical Jets fan until I read this thread ? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMo Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 People acting like a roll up injury has anything to do with conditioning are out of their minds. If he pulled a muscle you'd all have a better point. Ligamentous injuries with this mechanism of injury are just bad timing issues. That they listed him as doubtful is the only hope we have. Also did it ever occur to anyone that replacing fant with Moses might be more relevant. The lack of logic on this board never ceases to amaze. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, chirorob said: I want to argue, but that is all true. What is bizarre, Becton showed up in shape, and proceeded to have an awful camp. Agreed. You have to wonder if he just cant acclimate to playing in the shape he is in. The whole thing Becton had going for him was his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: Man the takes here are so over the top in either direction. Lay out the facts... 1- Wirfs was the safer and more stable pick to being with. Everyone knew it. JD even stated he picked Becton for upside. 2- Becton WAS out of shape last year, by his own admission, and you could see it on field. 3- Becton had a decent rookie campaign when he was on the field, nothing all pro, but looked to have a bright future. 4- Becton did NOT deserve any ROY awards last year (what the actual **** lol) 5- Wirfs was the obvious better player by season end. 6- Becton came into camp THIS year in much better shape. 7- Becton got his lunch money stolen all training camp. 8- Becton looked absolutely atrocious this game and nearly got Zach killed. 9- When Becton went out, the offense DID player better, regardless of game plan. But #9 isn't a fact. The offense started playing better while Becton was on the field. He was on the field and part of 1/2 of our scores. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, JTJet said: Man the takes here are so over the top in either direction. Lay out the facts... 1- Wirfs was the safer and more stable pick to being with. Everyone knew it. JD even stated he picked Becton for upside. 2- Becton WAS out of shape last year, by his own admission, and you could see it on field. 3- Becton had a decent rookie campaign when he was on the field, nothing all pro, but looked to have a bright future. 4- Becton did NOT deserve any ROY awards last year (what the actual **** lol) 5- Wirfs was the obvious better player by season end. 6- Becton came into camp THIS year in much better shape. 7- Becton got his lunch money stolen all training camp. 8- Becton looked absolutely atrocious this game and nearly got Zach killed. 9- When Becton went out, the offense DID player better, regardless of game plan. Not so sure if he came into camp this year in shape though. Salah even aluded to it months ago that he is "learning to take care of his body and fitness still, how to be a pro" - something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, bgivs21 said: But #9 isn't a fact. The offense started playing better while Becton was on the field. He was on the field and part of 1/2 of our scores. I suppose that's subjective, but Zach wasnt on his back as much after he went our and they changed up the line. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barton said: Not so sure if he came into camp this year in shape though. Salah even aluded to it months ago that he is "learning to take care of his body and fitness still, how to be a pro" - something to that effect. He definitely was in better shape, he looked thinner, especially in the face and waist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, neckdemon said: he's a millionaire......kinda hard for me to feel too bad that he's gonna make millions while rehabbing a knee injury It's okay to have a heart. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, JTJet said: I suppose that's subjective, but Zach wasnt on his back as much after he went our and they changed up the line. In terms of sacks? No thats not true, we gave up 3 sacks in the 2nd half after Becton went out, two of which were stunts on the inside that our line screwed up. Idk what the total pressure/ hurried numbers are but the offense clearly turned a corner WHILE Becton was still in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, HawkeyeJet said: wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said: Drama queen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, JTJet said: I suppose that's subjective, but Zach wasnt on his back as much after he went our and they changed up the line. and also he was moving around more. and that's what they have to do, move wilson around the pocket rather than have him stand there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 It would appear that it took too long for the Jets new training staff to get set up after Saleh was hired, and it hurt the development of many players. Becton needs a complete body reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawkeyeJet Posted September 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 Some of you folks need to get a grip. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, RoadFan said: I don’t even feel bad for him. He was terrible all game. When you get bull-rushed and/or beaten and thrown off balance every play… it was bound to happen that he got rolled up on in awkward fashion. Never understood why fans think he is so great. He isnt. At least not yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I expect Becton and Mann will both go on IR in short order. Is what it is, next man up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, neckdemon said: nobody rooted for it or was happy so not sure what you are going on about Did you even look at the replies in here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: That's still gonna take almost half the season to recover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Daddy Wang Doodle said: Did you even look at the replies in here? yeah none of them said they were rooting for the guy to get hurt or that they were happy he got hurt. just that he kinda sucked anyway, which is true 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Good news so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 An MCL strain? My parents would’ve just given me tussin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: A tad dramatic on the cart. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Becton is going to miss games!!?! Who could've possibly seen this coming?! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: That's still gonna take almost half the season to recover. Obviously below I'm just pulling random stuff off the internet, but what you wrote doesn't necessarily seem to be true (unless you have inside info): On Nick Chubb: Quote Most MCL sprains to NFL players heal in 2-4 weeks, so this is pretty severe compared to a majority of MCL injuries. Surgery isn't usually needed for MCL sprains unless there's a major tear as this ligament is able to heal pretty well on its own.Oct 5, 2020 https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008-2018-nfp-archive/the-training-room/monday-morning-md-mcl-injuries-abound/ Quote Big Ben reportedly suffered a grade 2 MCL sprain with a bone bruise in Week 3. This partial tear typically scars in enough to play by 2-4 weeks. After seeing the Steelers QB sans crutches in only four days (indicating the bone bruise is minor), I am on record saying Roethlisberger will play in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, thshadow said: Obviously below I'm just pulling random stuff off the internet, but what you wrote doesn't necessarily seem to be true (unless you have inside info): On Nick Chubb: https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008-2018-nfp-archive/the-training-room/monday-morning-md-mcl-injuries-abound/ I also have zero faith in Bectons rehab ability lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Could be a blessing in disguise. Fant played well at LT. AVT can also play LT Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I still contend the correct pick was Ceedee Lamb or Jeudy. Hope he’s okay, but he’s made me cautiously optimistic from go. He was my 4th favorite OT. I still think we could have move Fantvti LT last year and drafted a RT in later rounds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted September 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: A tad dramatic on the cart. Gonna mock the kid for being upset? That's some low stuff right there. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Warfish said: Gonna mock the kid for being upset? That's some low stuff right there. Don’t need to see the left tackle who couldn’t block anyone crying. Sorry 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Maybe a mod @The Crusher can change the title of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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