Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 Tua ranked 29 lol 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Let’s hope he is right. He still sounds like he loves him. I’m excited to see how Zach plays this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post undertow Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 SImms is trying way too hard to be edgy and cool by cursing every 5 seconds it's so cringe. 6 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Chris Simms’ 2022 Top 40 QB Countdown: 40. Drew Lock (SEA) 39. Kenny Pickett (PIT) 38. Teddy Bridgewater (MIA) 37. Gardner Minshew (PHI) 36. Tyrod Taylor (NYG) 35. Davis Mills (HOU) 34. Tyler Huntley (BAL) 33. Geno Smith (SEA) 32. Sam Darnold (CAR) 31. Trey Lance (SF) 30. Jared Goff (DET) 29. Tua Tagovailoa (MIA) 28. Marcus Mariota (ATL) 27. Mitchell Trubisky (PIT) 26. Jameis Winston (NO) 25. Jalen Hurts (PHI) 24. Trevor Lawrence (JAX) 23. Justin Fields (CHI) 22. Zach Wilson (NYJ) 21. Daniel Jones (NYG) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Larz said: Chris Simms’ 2022 Top 40 QB Countdown: 40. Drew Lock (SEA) 39. Kenny Pickett (PIT) 38. Teddy Bridgewater (MIA) 37. Gardner Minshew (PHI) 36. Tyrod Taylor (NYG) 35. Davis Mills (HOU) 34. Tyler Huntley (BAL) 33. Geno Smith (SEA) 32. Sam Darnold (CAR) 31. Trey Lance (SF) 30. Jared Goff (DET) 29. Tua Tagovailoa (MIA) 28. Marcus Mariota (ATL) 27. Mitchell Trubisky (PIT) 26. Jameis Winston (NO) 25. Jalen Hurts (PHI) 24. Trevor Lawrence (JAX) 23. Justin Fields (CHI) 22. Zach Wilson (NYJ) 21. Daniel Jones (NYG) 2. Kellen Mond 1. Arch Manning 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 He ranked Daniel Jones above Gardner Minshew, is he on crack? In seriousness, I don't agree with his Fields ranking. While I see a lot of talent in him, he, like Zach is a project. And unlike the Jets, the Bears don't look like they've done anything to help him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Hex said: He ranked Daniel Jones above Gardner Minshew, is he on crack? In seriousness, I don't agree with his Fields ranking. While I see a lot of talent in him, he, like Zach is a project. And unlike the Jets, the Bears don't look like they've done anything to help him. Yeah, he's totally off on Daniel Jones. Fields has zero (worst than zero) help from the Bears. Really sad. If he has a good year, he's MVP. Hard situation to be in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, undertow said: SImms is trying way too hard to be edgy and cool by cursing every 5 seconds it's so cringe. Yep. Just be a good analyst. Enough pundits add stupidity into their schtick. Just break it down. Lots of us sports fans want good takes without the dramatic presentation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 65 Toss Power Trap Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Tua ranked 29 lol - It will be fun to see how ZW, Trevor, and Fields perform over the next 5-10 years. I think Chris S. is right, all three are going to be really good. Trey Lance might also. Mac Daddy Jones might have a decent career, but he feels very vanilla to me (Alex Smith Minus). - "Why does [Zach] throw balls that are rockets at guys' man junk or their knees all the time." Spot on. Drives me nuts. The bounce passes drive me crazy too. - The fact that he got better is important. I think he's going to come out in 2022 like the end of 2021, not the beginning. His stats sucked (as many on JN have pointed out), and his performance last year as a whole sucks. The key will be to come out like he ended (not including the game at Buffalo). - Interesting take on Zach being expected to do more "advanced stuff" than the other rookie QBs. If the JETS play book is more intricate, ZW will have a better take on it this year and an even easier time with the advanced stuff. - I agree that 7-8 wins, given the schedule, would be a great year. If we get that, and Zach looks good, we've got good years coming. - First half of schedule is brutal, period. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 50 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: Yep. Just be a good analyst. Enough pundits add stupidity into their schtick. Just break it down. Lots of us sports fans want good takes without the dramatic presentation. I actually like his breakdowns but if you watch a full pod he curses literally 100 times it's overboard and he comes off as a try hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: Yeah, he's totally off on Daniel Jones. Fields has zero (worst than zero) help from the Bears. Really sad. If he has a good year, he's MVP. Hard situation to be in. Fields has a better cast than friggin darnold had. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jNYC1 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I didn't notice the cursing... I was enjoying the Zach positivity too much. I'm happy to consume the Zach kool aid since I'm still anxious about how well Zach will do. Simms does watch film so it is somewhat encouraging to see him doubling down on his belief in Zach. Many of his takes echoed are familiar...late season improvement with makeshift weapons/line. The interesting thing Simms mentioned was that Zach was expected to do more in the scheme... and Zach had success making some tougher reads/throws later in the season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 6 hours ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: Yep. Just be a good analyst. Enough pundits add stupidity into their schtick. Just break it down. Lots of us sports fans want good takes without the dramatic presentation. I wonder if Phil has a Potty Mouth as well? You wouldn’t think so with the whole farm boy persona 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 7 hours ago, T0mShane said: 2. Kellen Mond 1. Arch Manning 0. Mike White 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 What a bizarre list. What the hell has Fields done to get to #23 when he had him ranked so low coming out. How the **** are any of these guys ahead of Tua? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: 2. Kellen Mond 1. Arch Manning 91 Mike White ”will be the starter when Zach gets back” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I love Zach idk why I just doooo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 hours ago, undertow said: SImms is trying way too hard to be edgy and cool by cursing every 5 seconds it's so cringe. grown men who use the word cringe is cringe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Smith Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: What a bizarre list. What the hell has Fields done to get to #23 when he had him ranked so low coming out. How the **** are any of these guys ahead of Tua? He mentions during the full episode that he’s including projections on their improvement. This one was a good listen, Hurts, Lawrence, fields, Wilson, DJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 If we were drafting today and I had to choose between Tua and Fields, I’m taking Fields. We know what Tua is - He’s limited and cant push the ball down field. I dont believe his QB ranking is who had the best year last year. If that's the case, then just rank them by 2021 QBR. The ranking should be who do expect to be better in 2022. More egregious is Daniel Jones. He should be lower. I would have Trey Lance above Fields. And even though Zach was my QB1 last year, I think Trevor showed a stronger ability to attack the middle of the field. He should be above Zach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 10 hours ago, undertow said: SImms is trying way too hard to be edgy and cool by cursing every 5 seconds it's so cringe. Damn is cursing? He just reminds me of Kelso when he says that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: What a bizarre list. What the hell has Fields done to get to #23 when he had him ranked so low coming out. How the **** are any of these guys ahead of Tua? Because **** Tua, that's why 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvj Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: If we were drafting today and I had to choose between Tua and Fields, I’m taking Fields. We know what Tua is - He’s limited and cant push the ball down field. I dont believe his QB ranking is who had the best year last year. If that's the case, then just rank them by 2021 QBR. The ranking should be who do expect to be better in 2022. More egregious is Daniel Jones. He should be lower. I would have Trey Lance above Fields. And even though Zach was my QB1 last year, I think Trevor showed a stronger ability to attack the middle of the field. He should be above Zach. IMO Daniel Jones and Baker in the same way have the arm talent, talent wise they weren't projects or raw it was already there. The issue is that their mental game hasn't improved since their rookie season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 9 hours ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: - Interesting take on Zach being expected to do more "advanced stuff" than the other rookie QBs. If the JETS play book is more intricate, ZW will have a better take on it this year and an even easier time with the advanced stuff. I think this was the most interesting point. Zach was thrown into the wolves. He knows what he's dealing with and what he will deal with, while some QBs are surprised by year 2 and 3 and that's why they regress. Hopefully this strategy has him ready this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: What a bizarre list. What the hell has Fields done to get to #23 when he had him ranked so low coming out. How the **** are any of these guys ahead of Tua? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Notice towards the end when he is talking about the offensive line he says "Fant" and motions over to the left side, then says "Becton" and motions over to the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, IndianaJet said: Notice towards the end when he is talking about the offensive line he says "Fant" and motions over to the left side, then says "Becton" and motions over to the right. That is interesting. Just throwing this out there.....is the Becton absence really because Saleh and the coaches decided that they are going Fant LT and Becton RT ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 He thought Cam Newton was better than Tom Brady and Drew Brees. His 33rd ranked QB ended up being the 2019 Comeback Player of the Year Ryan Tannehill He thought the guy Tannehill replaced (Mariota) was better than 2019 MVP Lamar Jackson. He thought that Case Keenum, Andy Dalton and Joe Flacco were better than Lamar. He thought Nick Foles was better than Jackson, Tannehill, Josh Allen, Kyler Murray and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, IndianaJet said: What the hell did Fields do last year to go so far up in his estimation? He had him ranked behind Kellen Mond. Fields was abysmal in 2021 and I'm pretty sure the new regime in Chicago is intentionally setting him up to fail so they can move on in 2023 with their own guy. Tua has had the worst offensive line in football bar none for two years and although I don't particularly rate him he's been much better than about 10 of those ranked ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Hex said: ....is he on crack? Probably not. He's just very bad at ranking QB's (IMO). One look and I'd toss that ranking in the trash the rest of the fishwrap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Irish Jet said: What a bizarre list. What the hell has Fields done to get to #23 when he had him ranked so low coming out. How the **** are any of these guys ahead of Tua? That floater video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 6 hours ago, neckdemon said: grown men who use the word cringe is cringe Are you assuming my gender neck demon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedoesntgetyoulaid Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Have Phins fans soiled their pantyhose yet about Wilson being 7 places higher than Tua? Edit: lol yes they have: https://finheaven.com/threads/chris-simms-what-a-tool.372839/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 17 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: Tua ranked 29 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, undertow said: Are you assuming my gender neck demon? yes i did, lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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