Report: Zach Wilson has struggled with accuracy in Jets OTAs

[Matt39]

3 hours ago, Mogglez said:

We’re gonna be charting TC completion percentages this year, just like the good ‘ole days of Sanchez and Geno, aren’t we lol?

Why wouldnt we be? Contrary to popular belief practice matters. 

[Lith]

1 hour ago, Spoot-Face said:

ninja'd

But I didn't mention pizza hut.  So my post may have been first, but it was incomplete.

[The Crusher]

Pizza or tomato pie. GFY 

[Mogglez]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

Why wouldnt we be? Contrary to popular belief practice matters. 

Lmfao.

[Mogglez]

5 hours ago, T0mShane said:

There was a reason they charted Sanchez and Geno passes in the summer.

[Lurker89]

12 hours ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

If this is horrible news, then the fact that I misplaced my notebook this morning is a sure sign that I have dementia. The over-the-top reactions are priceless -- as in worthless.

If this is the test then I  am 33 and have really... really bad dementia.

I'm petty sure there is a troll that takes my things..... but that's  a problem for another day.

[Barry McCockinner]

7 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said:

2 major conspiracies underway:

-Jet Blue picking the QB 

Which leads to

- the conspiracy to keep Mike White, outstanding QB, from playing

 

Excuse me. HOF QB.

 

 

 

[Jet Life]

On 6/3/2022 at 4:23 PM, TuscanyTile2 said:

I'll just leave this here.

We’re lucky to have Lafluer 

[Hal N of Provo]

16 minutes ago, Jet Life said:

We’re lucky to have Lafluer 

 A normal route with good receivers gives you 5+ ways to win.  That had 2.  I hope he was getting cute last season since the team sucked.  

[Hal N of Provo]

Hey I’ve been thinking about something.  
 

If Zach is good and has a 20 year career as a FQB with Super Bowl wins, should Jet Blue pick the next QB too?  That would be 1/1 for Jet Blue vs 1/50 by the Jets.  @bitonti

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

One of my doubts about Wilson coming out of BYU was the lack of any discernible leadership traits.

I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

If he also can’t hit routine layups, but just throw the occasional “wow” pass on a scramble drill, Saleh and Douglas will be looking for new jobs before long.

It’s insane to me, but the powers that be are clearly willing to die on the hill of Zach Wilson.

Sauce has to “earn the right to play football” whereas Wilson was anointed the de facto unquestioned starter from day 1 without even the pretense of an actual competition.

[BurnleyJet]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

One of my doubts about Wilson coming out of BYU was the lack of any discernible leadership traits.

I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

If he also can’t hit routine layups, but just throw the occasional “wow” pass on a scramble drill, Saleh and Douglas will be looking for new jobs before long.

It’s insane to me, but the powers that be are clearly willing to die on the hill of Zach Wilson.

Sauce has to “earn the right to play football” whereas Wilson was anointed the de facto unquestioned starter from day 1 without even the pretense of an actual competition.

What, Wilson is the starting QB this year. If he falls on his ass, then it’s likely he won’t be the starter in 2023. 

This isn’t the same as competition at Cornerback.

Also can you explain your lack of discernible leadership traits. The guy just spend weeks visiting his receivers before OTA’s to help develop chemistry between the players. That’s definitely something a leader wouldn’t do?

Get a grip, media click baits about some wonky passes and you want a QB competition. Chicken little much.

[Jet Nut]

6 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Why wouldnt we be? Contrary to popular belief practice matters. 

Because it’s stupid given as you said it’s practice

[Jetsfan80]

3 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said:

Hey I’ve been thinking about something.  
 

If Zach is good and has a 20 year career as a FQB with Super Bowl wins, should Jet Blue pick the next QB too?  That would be 1/1 for Jet Blue vs 1/50 by the Jets.  @bitonti

Not far off there!  Prior to Wilson the Jets had drafted 41 QBs in franchise history.  

[T0mShane]

6 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

One of my doubts about Wilson coming out of BYU was the lack of any discernible leadership traits.

I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

If he also can’t hit routine layups, but just throw the occasional “wow” pass on a scramble drill, Saleh and Douglas will be looking for new jobs before long.

It’s insane to me, but the powers that be are clearly willing to die on the hill of Zach Wilson.

Sauce has to “earn the right to play football” whereas Wilson was anointed the de facto unquestioned starter from day 1 without even the pretense of an actual competition.

I’m trying to be more positive this summer but, yes, Zach is clearly not a dude and unless he plays lights out early and often, he’s going to be isolated in that locker room.

[T0mShane]

5 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

The guy just spend weeks visiting his receivers before OTA’s to help develop chemistry between the players. That’s definitely something a leader wouldn’t do?

Even with Sanchez, the receivers flew out to him.

[Scoop24]

8 pages of whining over 8 throws. @T0mShane and his crew never fail. 

[T0mShane]

7 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

8 pages of whining over 8 throws. @T0mShane and his crew never fail. 

I am a thought leader

[Matt39]

5 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Because it’s stupid given as you said it’s practice

Why even practice at all?

[maury77]

13 hours ago, Matt39 said:

I stand by my earlier statement. 

When I was a kid, Pizza Hut was a delicacy (to me at least). In the mid 90s, they either took a turn for the worse or my palette changed.

[Matt39]

13 minutes ago, maury77 said:

When I was a kid, Pizza Hut was a delicacy (to me at least). In the mid 90s, they either took a turn for the worse or my palette changed.

The pan pizza out of that hot cast iron wasn’t bad. Plus they had the breadsticks which were fire.

[slats]

47 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I’m trying to be more positive this summer but, yes, Zach is clearly not a dude and unless he plays lights out early and often, he’s going to be isolated in that locker room.

Looks like you’re gonna have to work a little bit harder on that positivity. 
 
As much as it’s clear that you simply don’t like Zach as a person, there’s zero evidence that that’s a thing inside the locker room. He does not have to play lights out early and often, he simply needs to show improvement. The players understand that they’re trying to develop a QB here. As long as it’s obvious that he’s putting in the work and improving, he’s gonna have the support of the team. The understand that his development is their best chance for success. 

[kevinc855]

Typical Jets thread

Die Hard Zach defenders: Zach is amazing, Zach is god

Zach critics: see I told you.

What concerns me is this would not have been written had Zach looked sharp in OTAs. So we can conclude he was a mix bag. How bad or average is up for debate. 
 

Really hope Zach figures this all out. He needs to be good, not average. 

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Even with Sanchez, the receivers flew out to him.

All the HOT CHICKS are in So. Californication. WR room loved “practicing” with Mark “Pimp-Daddy” Sanchez!

[slats]

48 minutes ago, maury77 said:

When I was a kid, Pizza Hut was a delicacy (to me at least). In the mid 90s, they either took a turn for the worse or my palette changed.

Aren’t we all from NY/NJ? Didn’t anyone have a decent local pizzeria? I was alive and well in the ‘90s, and wouldn’t’ve been caught dead in a ****ing Pizza Hut. Do you guys now sing the praises of the Olive Garden? 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, slats said:

Aren’t we all from NY/NJ? Didn’t anyone have a decent local pizzeria? I was alive and well in the ‘90s, and wouldn’t’ve been caught dead in a ****ing Pizza Hut. Do you guys now sing the praises of the Olive Garden? 

Plenty of good pizza spots. Pizza Hut had a beer tap and was a lively scene on a Friday night between takeout and diners. It was more geared towards kids though with arcade games etc. But in the early to mid 90's that was a busy spot. Town was more blue collar back then too I guess.

[kevinc855]

4 minutes ago, slats said:

Aren’t we all from NY/NJ? Didn’t anyone have a decent local pizzeria? I was alive and well in the ‘90s, and wouldn’t’ve been caught dead in a ****ing Pizza Hut. Do you guys now sing the praises of the Olive Garden? 

Yes I had one 2 blocks from me. My dad also made it a rule to never go to chain Italian restaurant. First time I ever went to Olive Garden I was in the south and drunk peer presured by some guys. I never felt so guilty in my life slamming down my shrimp and pasta dish 

[Lith]

7 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Typical Jets thread

Die Hard Zach defenders: Zach is amazing, Zach is god

Zach critics: see I told you.

What concerns me is this would not have been written had Zach looked sharp in OTAs. So we can conclude he was a mix bag. How bad or average is up for debate. 
 

Really hope Zach figures this all out. He needs to be good, not average. 

Agreed.  This season, Zach and the rest of the offense need to end the debate.  There was no debate about Burrow after year 2.  Or Herbert, Mahomes or Watson.  Lamar Jackson was an MVP in year 2.  Some debate about Kyler Murray now, but that is about his ability to win a big game after faltering down the stretch.  I would like to see Zach get us to big games.  Josh Allen needed an extra year, but most guys who have come out in recent years, you know it after year 2.  He has better weapons, a solid OL, likely a good running game.  Time to end the debate.

[HawkeyeJet]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I am a thought leader

The Joe Rogan of JN.  You should look into podcasting.  

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said:

The Joe Rogan of JN.  You should look into podcasting.  

@Maxman couldn’t afford my talents or the many lawsuits that would follow

[Lith]

16 minutes ago, slats said:

Aren’t we all from NY/NJ? Didn’t anyone have a decent local pizzeria? I was alive and well in the ‘90s, and wouldn’t’ve been caught dead in a ****ing Pizza Hut. Do you guys now sing the praises of the Olive Garden? 

One of the things I miss most about NY is the pizza.  Living in Illinois, we had two "NY style" pizzerias open around here.  Not exactly what we got in NY, but a lot closer than the typical Chicago thin crust.  Both went out of business in a year or two.  They don't know how to make crusts around here.  Take a slice of Matzo, put sauce, cheese and pepperoni on it.  Bake for 10 minutes and you have Chicago thin crust.  Its terrible.  Pizza Hut is a better option.

I have two Chicago staples near me -- Lou Malnati and Girodano's.  Both known for deep dish.  Butter in the crusst overpowers the taste of the pizza.   I will have it once in a while as a change of pace, but neither comes close to the pizza you can get at just about any local pizzeria in NY-NJ.

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

The pan pizza out of that hot cast iron wasn’t bad. Plus they had the breadsticks which were fire.

Don't let the "Durrr, we're NY'ers and only our Pizza rules" vibe get you twisted.

In the late 80's, Pizza Hut sit-down restaurants were, in fact, a big thing (outside of NY, at least).

Was nothing like the trash it is today.  Sit-down only, no delivery, high-quality, took forever to cook, lol, and was really really good.

For those of a certain age, sit-down family-restaurant Pizza Hut was definitely a big thing.  For a short time, at least.

 

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Don't let the "Durrr, we're NY'ers and only our Pizza rules" vibe get you twisted.

In the late 80's, Pizza Hut sit-down restaurants were, in fact, a big thing (outside of NY, at least).

Was nothing like the trash it is today.  Sit-down only, no delivery, high-quality, took forever to cook, lol, and was really really good.

 

I never loved their pizza or food but the place was wildly popular back then even with competing real pizza places on the same block. Glad to see this has turned into a Pizza Hut thread.

[T0mShane]

48 minutes ago, slats said:

The players understand that they’re trying to develop a QB here. As long as it’s obvious that he’s putting in the work and improving, he’s gonna have the support of the team.

I just don’t believe this to be true. The “hey, he’s young and developing, so I don’t care that the team is bad and my stats are In the toilet as a result” line of thought has an extremely short shelf life, especially if the backups aren’t the statistical anchor that Zach might be early on. As far as his leadership is concerned, he has acknowledged himself that “leadership”  and “being a better teammate” was something he had to work on (when pressed on the “Captain” story by Michael Kay post-draft). 

[slats]

8 minutes ago, Lith said:

One of the things I miss most about NY is the pizza.  Living in Illinois, we had two "NY style" pizzerias open around here.  Not exactly what we got in NY, but a lot closer than the typical Chicago thin crust.  Both went out of business in a year or two.  They don't know how to make crusts around here.  Take a slice of Matzo, put sauce, cheese and pepperoni on it.  Bake for 10 minutes and you have Chicago thin crust.  Its terrible.  Pizza Hut is a better option.

I have two Chicago staples near me -- Lou Malnati and Girodano's.  Both known for deep dish.  Butter in the crusst overpowers the taste of the pizza.   I will have it once in a while as a change of pace, but neither comes close to the pizza you can get at just about any local pizzeria in NY-NJ.

Tell me about it, I moved to Mexico! I was used to having Lucali’s (when in Brooklyn, it’s a must) within walking distance, and even decent pizza here was impossibly hard to come by. Like you said, it’s the crust. I don’t know if it’s true what they say about the water, but the tri-state area just simply has the best pizza anywhere, imho. Down here, they would get the top pretty flavorful, but the crust was always off. Either soggy or just flavorless. Luckily, the town I moved to has great restaurants, with a lot of competition, and a dude came off the boat from Italy to deliver some legitimate black crust pizza out of a brand new pizza oven he just had installed. Split one last night with the gf over a bottle of wine. So good, thank goodness.