Flacco starting against Ravens; Wilson out until week 4: MERGED

[Biggs]

5 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

Sadly, I 1,000% agree. I miss the successful playoff caliber teams of the 2000’s but I’ve accepted what the Jets have become and in a way, hate them for it so I enjoy this. 

You can't be a real Jets fan and not hate the Jets.

[JoJoTownsell1]

49 minutes ago, Alka said:

Or perhaps it's just gamesmanship by Saleh.  By not naming the QB, it forces the Ravens to game plan for Zach Wilson.  Now, the Ravens will have to change their plan for defense against Flacco.  Not a bad idea at all.

Then why not keep this big game up next week and say zach is questionable next week? 

Either way,  both are pocket passers. I doubt the ravens are scrambling to come up with a new game plan now. 

[fullblast]

One of these years we'll get a full season out of our QB.

[BloodGreen]

It’s actually hilarious. I learned how to properly be a fan of this team and it’s great. Nothing bothers me and I justifiably laugh at everything. This board makes it great. 

You nailed it! It’s a fascinating trajectory that sports fandom has taken with the popularity of forums and social media. There is no middle ground any longer and every news cycle brings only one extreme or the other, and it’s pretty subjective on which side you land. I am very content sitting back and seeing how things play out. I may not love some of the decisions, but I am certain the people making them are much more qualified than me, even if they ultimately prove to be wrong. I do see the entertainment aspect of this wonderful forum though, and encourage even casual fans to join for it’s unique perspective and passionate discourse.

[T0mShane]

31 minutes ago, RSJ said:

I personally dont feel the level of QB play needs to be as high as most of this board probably does. We are about to play a QB who wins a lot and can barely throw a forward pass. Jimmy G wins, Mithell T is about to beat us too. Thats why you keep picking until you find a guy who can move an offense on a consistent basis. Doesnt need to be flashy. Darnold and Zach have yet to prove they can even accomplish this.


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Robert Mays had Aaron Schatz (founder of Football Outsiders) on to preview the AFC East. Schatz’s analytics predict the Jets might have a top ten defense this season, but it wouldn’t impact the record because the QB play projects to be so bad. Extremely down on Zach from analytics standpoint, which has been a recurring theme this offseason from FO and the PFF set. 

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Robert Mays had Aaron Schatz (founder of Football Outsiders) on to preview the AFC East. Schatz’s analytics predict the Jets might have a top ten defense this season, but it wouldn’t impact the record because the QB play projects to be so bad. Extremely down on Zach from analytics standpoint, which has been a recurring theme this offseason from FO and the PFF set. 

Is there any other objective conclusion?

Hope is fine. Hope can even be good. But hope is not evidence.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

3 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

or how the Cardinals were "high" on Rosen before getting rid of him..

a team saying they're high on a QB means nothing...

I think the Cardinals were high on crack for drafting him

[jgb]

1 minute ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

I think the Cardinals were high on crack for drafting him

Easy to say now. I had no support -- none -- when I called Rosen undraftable before the draft that year.

[munchmemory]

41 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

It’s actually hilarious. I learned how to properly be a fan of this team and it’s great. Nothing bothers me and I justifiably laugh at everything. This board makes it great. 

Just telling my wife today how much this place brings me so much enjoyment.  The team sucks.  It always does.  But as long as I occasionally get in a funny line or interesting quip, my day is made.  

Love (almost) all you guys.  Thanks for keeping me entertained and sane.

[Bugg]

3 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Yeah and Archie was famous for pulling strings too. 

You don't win 2 Super Bowls apiece by not showing up . Are you suggesting the Manning brothers' career success were entirely because of their dad pulling strings? 

[Titan24]

58 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

Okay so who will be the legend , ahead of the curve to start the 2023 QB class thread ? 

ill be waiting, I hear that kid down in Ohio is pretty good 😂

No! This team needs a veteran…… enough 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, Bugg said:

You don't win 2 Super Bowls apiece by not showing up . Are you suggesting the Manning brothers' career success were entirely because of their dad pulling strings? 

No of course not. Just addressing the folks here who think's it's impossible that Wilson could have some leverage as his family is a major sponsor for the franchise.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

9 minutes ago, jgb said:

Easy to say now. I had no support -- none -- when I called Rosen undraftable before the draft that year.

I was with you.  Just not on the board at that time

[Jetsfan80]

13 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

Just telling my wife today how much this place brings me so much enjoyment.  The team sucks.  It always does.  But as long as I occasionally get in a funny line or interesting quip, my day is made.  

Love (almost) all you guys.  Thanks for keeping me entertained and sane.

I can understand how we keep you entertained, but I don’t understand how we help keep you sane.  lol.  

[freestater]

Now the starting qb is out for a quarter of the season? At least I made it to halftime of the first game before checking out on the season last year. **** thus coach. Seriously. 

[freestater]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

So, if Saleh survives this season, his first task in the offseason needs to be firing Ulbrich and bringing in a few coaches that actually held HC gigs at some point in his career, because surrounding himself with his inexperienced besties is killing him. He looks like an absolute fool right now, and he needs someone on hand to teach him how to not embarrass himself with this kind of sh*t. Either he’s getting played by Douglas, et al., or he’s just ab outright dimwit who likes to sabotage himself. Man needs someone with experience to shove a sock in his mouth and show him how things are done. The job is simply way too big for him.

[Drums]

7 minutes ago, freestater said:

Now the starting qb is out for a quarter of the season? At least I made it to halftime of the first game before checking out on the season last year. **** thus coach. Seriously. 

Omg way to exaggerate. It’s only 23.5% of the season. 

[tommyduhamelshouse]

So, turns out, I was wrong.

 

However, it's clear that Zach is PHYSICALLY READY (which is what he told my brother in law) but, he's not MENTALLY PREPARED due to missing so much time.  So they're holding him out and holding him off to get a good, solid, unbiased viewpoint of his 2022 body of work to ensure they know what they have in Zach.  They're waiting until he's 150% ready.  Makes sense.

 

But: I was wrong.  

[southparkcpa]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

These are the best times to be a fan of this team, bar none. Nothing makes you feel more alive than watching this organization beclown themselves.

Thank you Joe Douglas, Thank you. 

[GangGreened]

I just hope we dump Zach after this season and don’t waste another with him. He was never the right pick.

[oatmeal]

1 minute ago, tommyduhamelshouse said:

So, turns out, I was wrong.

 

However, it's clear that Zach is PHYSICALLY READY (which is what he told my brother in law) but, he's not MENTALLY PREPARED due to missing so much time.  So they're holding him out and holding him off to get a good, solid, unbiased viewpoint of his 2022 body of work to ensure they know what they have in Zach.  They're waiting until he's 150% ready.  Makes sense.

 

But: I was wrong.  

I have this new beautiful bridge in Brooklyn I’m selling if you’re interested 

[southparkcpa]

2 minutes ago, tommyduhamelshouse said:

So, turns out, I was wrong.

 

However, it's clear that Zach is PHYSICALLY READY (which is what he told my brother in law) but, he's not MENTALLY PREPARED due to missing so much time.  So they're holding him out and holding him off to get a good, solid, unbiased viewpoint of his 2022 body of work to ensure they know what they have in Zach.  They're waiting until he's 150% ready.  Makes sense.

 

But: I was wrong.  

Jets summed up…….

[oatmeal]

Can one of you legends bump the fire Joe Douglas thread please 

[Bugg]

8 minutes ago, tommyduhamelshouse said:

So, turns out, I was wrong.

 

However, it's clear that Zach is PHYSICALLY READY (which is what he told my brother in law) but, he's not MENTALLY PREPARED due to missing so much time.  So they're holding him out and holding him off to get a good, solid, unbiased viewpoint of his 2022 body of work to ensure they know what they have in Zach.  They're waiting until he's 150% ready.  Makes sense.

 

But: I was wrong.  

not MENTALLY PREPARED

[jgb]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

These are the best times to be a fan of this team, bar none. Nothing makes you feel more alive than watching this organization beclown themselves.

Decided long ago to just embrace the absurdist humor of the spectacle and it's been freaking awesome to observe this team since that moment.

[Jetsfan80]

16 minutes ago, Drums said:

Omg way to exaggerate. It’s only 23.5% of the season. 

Until the announcement comes in that  after getting a 2nd/3rd opinion, Zach Wilson’s injury is “worse than feared” and he’ll be out “indefinitely”.  

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Until the announcement comes in that  after getting a 2nd/3rd opinion, Zach Wilson’s injury is “worse than feared” and he’ll be out “indefinitely”.  

I don't want to speculate until @Joe W. Namath chimes in and then put me down for the opposite of that.

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, jgb said:

I don't want to speculate until @Joe W. Namath chimes in and then put me down for the opposite of that.

So diseased

[Green Ghost]

1 hour ago, oatmeal said:

This 

but idk I feel the same but for whatever reason this team will always find something to trigger me 

 

it’s like this team has some terrible voodoo on me or something 

 

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

These are the best times to be a fan of this team, bar none. Nothing makes you feel more alive than watching this organization beclown themselves.

 

1 hour ago, Creepy Lurker said:

Sadly, I 1,000% agree. I miss the successful playoff caliber teams of the 2000’s but I’ve accepted what the Jets have become and in a way, hate them for it so I enjoy this. 

Thanks guys.
I thought it was just me. I’d stopped getting upset with the losses years ago, but I thought there was something wrong when with me I started laughing at this team and the guys who believe it’s on the right track with clowns like Douglas, Saleh and Wilson.

Today’s sh*t show was like the final nail in the coffin. After watching Saleh handling the the Becton and Wilson debacles during training camp this year, it’s obvious how clueless he is,  and the fact that the ghost of Flacco might be the best QB this team has had since Fitzpatrick (think about how sad that is) tells me all I need to know about Douglas.

I can’t even get excited about the start of a season with this freaking team now. I was hoping To at least I get a few laughs watching guys here try to convince themselves Wilson was going to become their FQB.

 

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

 

 

Thanks guys.
I thought it was just me. I’d stopped getting upset with the losses years ago, but I thought there was something wrong when with me I started laughing at this team and the guys who believe it’s on the right track with clowns like Douglas, Saleh and Wilson.

Today’s sh*t show was like the final nail in the coffin. After watching Saleh handling the the Becton and Wilson debacles during training camp this year, it’s obvious how clueless he is,  and the fact that the ghost of Flacco might be the best QB this team has had since Fitzpatrick (think about how sad that is) tells me all I need to know about Douglas.

I can’t even get excited about the start of a season with this freaking team. At least I could’ve gotten a few laughs watching guys here try to convince themselves Wilson was their FQB.

 

Momma's-basement-dwelling, Axe-body-spray-wearing, Dorito-finger-stained, fake fan TROLL.

[doitny]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Robert Mays had Aaron Schatz (founder of Football Outsiders) on to preview the AFC East. Schatz’s analytics predict the Jets might have a top ten defense this season, but it wouldn’t impact the record because the QB play projects to be so bad. Extremely down on Zach from analytics standpoint, which has been a recurring theme this offseason from FO and the PFF set. 

curious if they update that now that Flacco is playing 4 games. do they think more wins or less.

[doitny]

33 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

Can one of you legends bump the fire Joe Douglas thread please 

and why is Joe getting fired today?

[oatmeal]

4 minutes ago, doitny said:

and why is Joe getting fired today?

Picking a weak pampered QB over 3 better choices

[Drums]

1 hour ago, tommyduhamelshouse said:

So, turns out, I was wrong.

 

However, it's clear that Zach is PHYSICALLY READY (which is what he told my brother in law) but, he's not MENTALLY PREPARED due to missing so much time.  So they're holding him out and holding him off to get a good, solid, unbiased viewpoint of his 2022 body of work to ensure they know what they have in Zach.  They're waiting until he's 150% ready.  Makes sense.

 

But: I was wrong.  

Is your brother Connor Hughes? cause he got played

[Bugg]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

No of course not. Just addressing the folks here who think's it's impossible that Wilson could have some leverage as his family is a major sponsor for the franchise.

Yes . But they were good QBs. Wilson, well....