SoJetsy Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Can you think of another QB who was drafted and became not even an after thought so soon. Can Rogers help this kid be the heir apparent in two years? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, SoJetsy said: Can you think of another QB who was drafted and became not even an after thought so soon. Can Rogers help this kid be the heir apparent in two years? Christian Hackenberg. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 So excited to see the new ground covered in this thread. 4 1 1 2 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyandtheJets Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Short answer is no. Showed some flashes but by end was mentally burnt toast. They need to rehab this guy so at least he is a suitable backup. Cannot have a third string QB making $9 million and then have to sign a second stringer when the starter is (hopefully) making $40+ million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 When it comes to Zach: 7 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greensleeves Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 Yep, I can definitely see Zach improving while watching for a couple of years. He has all the tools, just needs to learn from coaches that know how to develop a QB. Confidence can pivot very quickly in sports with good preparation and good coaching. The better he learns the plays and the less he is thinking out there the better he will get. I wouldn't be shocked to see him plugged in at QB in a couple of years after playing well in fill in duty the next two years. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Can you think of another QB who was drafted and became not even an after thought so soon. Can Rogers help this kid be the heir apparent in two years? Jim Plunkett comes to mind. While the Pats kept marching him out there for 4.5 seasons after making him the first overall pick, everyone knew that this was not working and that his play was terrible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post juxsta Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 Josh Rosen Arizona quickly realized thier mistake and instantly moved on. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Can you think of another QB who was drafted and became not even an after thought so soon. Can Rogers help this kid be the heir apparent in two years? Josh Rosen. Akili Smith There are more, too lazy to look them all up. Most big-bust QB's are effectively sidelined by year 3 or 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 Remember when people were big mad at the suggestion that Zach Wilson was a bad pick. 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, T0mShane said: Remember when people were big mad at the suggestion that Zach Wilson was a bad pick. They always come around eventually. Some just take longer than others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoJetsy said: Can you think of another QB who was drafted and became not even an after thought so soon. Can Rogers help this kid be the heir apparent in two years? The Jets have come out and said they still believe in Zach, aren't giving up on him and want to develop him. You can argue that's all nonsense to cover their a**es. But the fact is, he is not quite a complete afterthought. If this team wasn't suddenly on the verge of being a threat in the AFC East (with some dangerous weapons on offense and a top 5 defense), then Zach would probably have a solid chance of starting again in 2023. When you look at that same draft, seems like Trey Lance is more of an afterthought. I mean, the Niners aren't planning on getting rid of him either but they have Purdy recovering from injury (who they know can play) and are now looking for another vet to hold the fort in the mean time. I mean, I feel like there are a lot of QBs in NFL history who fall into this pit, either due to injury or circumstance, or not being ready, or just sucking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Zach "The Rough Rider" Wilson 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 How about Rosen or Russell or leaf? Those guys were all toast after one season. But at the same time there are guys like theisman or Gannon or even geno, who took a few seasons to start. Young didn’t too much for Tampa but then had to sit for a while on the niners. And then look at a guy like Doug Williams who was short changed in Tampa but was good enough to lead the redskins to a Super Bowl win. As for Zach, there’s something Douglas saw in spite of milfy pounding the table for him. He can make some amazing throws and then fail miserably on the gimmes. IMO this takes him needing to learn how to win the game and not take the gimme throws for granted. Every play is important. I don’t think any vet can be expected to be his mentor. The jets need to make sure he gets enough attention from the coaches. Maybe that’s an additional attraction of Rodgers. As I recall sch**ty had little to do with the offense when Favre came on board. And let’s not forget that Zach did qb five of the wins last season. In spite of Zach? Maybe but he was still there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Warfish said: They always come around eventually. Some just take longer than others. We must never forget the names! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 As to the OP, the speed and violence with which they moved on from Zach suggests that its more than just his play on the field. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: We must never forget the names! The ones who are on BOTH the Jamal Adams and Zach Wilson lists deserve particular shame. @Dunnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Rick Mirer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Remember when people were big mad at the suggestion that Zach Wilson was a bad pick. There's a contingent on this board that is still mad about people suggesting it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: As to the OP, the speed and violence with which they moved on from Zach suggests that its more than just his play on the field. Doesn't suggest that even a little bit. I can't even believe you're being serious when you were calling him to be benched about 30 months ago. They stuck with him as long as they could until the toxic fan base forced Saleh's hand. The fact that he hasn't been traded and is actually looking like #2 on the depth chart - really says how highly they think of him. For the record: I would still be surprised if he's not traded or #3 but that's not the case right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Zac Wilson will be penciled in as the starter two years from now. As I've said before, the people that hate Zac Wilson should also hate the idea of getting Aaron Rodgers 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, juxsta said: Josh Rosen Arizona quickly realized thier mistake and instantly moved on. the real story is the people who picked Rosen got fired and KK moved on to Murray I can't think of a story where the people who picked the bust get to make further decisions 23 minutes ago, Beerfish said: As I've said before, the people that hate Zac Wilson should also hate the idea of getting Aaron Rodgers hey that's me 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, bitonti said: the real story is the people who picked Rosen got fired and KK moved on to Murray I can't think of a story where the people who picked the bust get to make further decisions You can start with the guy who drafted Rosen. He drafted Murray, too. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: As to the OP, the speed and violence with which they moved on from Zach suggests that its more than just his play on the field. violence? did Zach get his jaw broken, too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I would be careful dancing on Zach Wilson's Jets grave just yet. He's probably going to be one injury from being QB1 again this year, and if AR retires after one year . . . anyway. carry on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, slats said: You can start with the guy who drafted Rosen. He drafted Murray, too. Rosen/Murray situation is 10x worse than ZW. Way more wasted draft capital, way more wasted $$, and way more wasted years. Funny thing is the ones who want to give themselves a reach around over not wanting ZW, were all largely slurping over Cardinals getting Murray so quickly after Rosen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, slimjasi said: violence? did Zach get his jaw broken, too? T0m was an English major. Has to put it to use somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 The NFL is replete with qb washouts that were first rounders: Marinovich JP Losman Matt Leinart Brady Quinn Heath Shuler Ryan Leaf And Art Schlister was a doozy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, SoJetsy said: Can you think of another QB who was drafted and became not even an after thought so soon. Can Rogers help this kid be the heir apparent in two years? Did Rodgers work with Jordan Love? Said "It's not my job" so good luck him mentoring Zach Wilson. No, ZW is on his own with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Zach is a bust, if he magically turns things around then nobody would be happier than me but the chances of that are mighty thin. Rogers is a selfish prick. No reason or historical evidence to suggest that he would be helpful to a youngster Get Rogers, draft his replacement in the 3rd round this year and have that player take the reins three years from now after a couple of deep playoff run years. Three years from now Zach will be on a reality TV show where formerly famous people compete to bang the most leathery-skinned cougars in a mansion that is normally used to shoot porn movies. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, SoJetsy said: Can you think of another QB who was drafted and became not even an after thought so soon. Can Rogers help this kid be the heir apparent in two years? Such a Jetsy thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I would be careful dancing on Zach Wilson's Jets grave just yet. He's probably going to be one injury from being QB1 again this year, and if AR retires after one year . . . anyway. carry on. If the jets get rodgers you’d have to think they’re drafting a qb in 2024 to groom. Unless wilson shows much more he’ll be gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, EM31 said: Rogers is a selfish prick. No reason or historical evidence to suggest that he would be helpful to a youngster Other than he took calls from Zach during the season to help him out and apparently likes him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, slats said: You can start with the guy who drafted Rosen. He drafted Murray, too. fair enough Steve Kiem you're referring to? the GM Steve Wilks the HC took the fall for Rosen pick only lasted one year unless they start winning and fast someone has to take the blame the Zach pick was so bad the Sauce pick and Garrett Wilson OROY/DROY don't really make up for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: As to the OP, the speed and violence with which they moved on from Zach suggests that its more than just his play on the field. This. Like, the fact that he is unplayably bad is clearly a huge factor. They can't sell him as the QB to fans... But the way this has played out is clearly influenced by the fact that he's universally disliked within the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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