Vader Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Is Bryce Huff as good as John Abraham was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, extmenace said: He’ll get the franchise tag and then will be shopped. He’s got value, said this earlier in the year, it wouldn’t surprise me if he was involved in devante Adams trade discussions. Too many holes to put more money into the d line, If the jets are smart they up his snap count and let him pad his stats. Get that value as high as possible. This is the most prudent and likely scenario. I thought earlier in the season there was a chance that they would use the Franchise Tag on Becton and re-sign or let Huff walk, but Becton hasn't been good enough to warrant the franchise tag. The best option is to tag Huff with transition or franchise and see if there is a trade partner. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, NYDreamer said: I want to resign him and keep him on this team. This is reminiscent of trading John Abraham away and Huff is healthy. Carl Lawson won't be here. I would give that money towards Huff. We have more than Shaun Ellis talent on the D line this time around. We just spent two first rounders on DE’s the last two drafts. When McDonald was picked, it made it nearly impossible to resign huff. He’ll be good elsewhere, but we have enough upside behind him to put that money into other more pressing needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: I think the Jets will franchise tag him and then trade him for a 2nd round pick. They won’t have a ton of leverage because teams know the Jets will not be able to afford the roughly $20M franchise tag .. not with huge holes on their offensive roster. I wonder what they offered for him before the trade deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Tag and trade. This lets McDonald get more reps and saves around 20 mil on the cap. See if we can get a 1st or 2nd+ and take offense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 46 minutes ago, extmenace said: He’ll get the franchise tag and then will be shopped. He’s got value, said this earlier in the year, it wouldn’t surprise me if he was involved in devante Adams trade discussions. Too many holes to put more money into the d line, If the jets are smart they up his snap count and let him pad his stats. Get that value as high as possible. Serious doubt B Huff would be involved in any D Adams trade. Like the Jets the Raiders have a lot money tied up in the De position already. They can’t afford another 20 million at that position. MAXX Crosby , Tyree Wilson - always knew it was going to take a year before they got results - has been playing pretty well, The development of Malcolm Koonce down the stretch solidify himself as starter opposite Crosby next year. ( he’s entering his last year and has to get paid. Janarius Robinson been nice addition to the defense. Raiders are need of a dominant Dt, and a top Cb . That will be their top Fa targets. Last year they went offense heavy in Fa , and went defense heavy in draft. I think it’s reverse this year. Raiders eat a lot of money trading D Adams. Jets take Jimmy G contract off their hands , still going to want a first for Adams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Bronx said: I wonder what they offered for him before the trade deadline. The reality is that the Jets cannot afford what Huff will likely get on the market, so whatever the offer it's probably a home town discount that Huff's team has outright rejected. I wouldn't be surprised if the negotiations have ended. This might be the first of some very difficult decisions that winning organizations make: 1. Trade Huff for assets to improve the offense (sucks but it's the reality of the situation) 2. Ask Mosley for a massive pay cut off his $17M salary or unfortunately be released (this one shouldn't be hard, let's all throw out the sentimentality) 3. Move on from the bad decision named Laken Tomlinson. Still save millions while upgrading the position with a capable free agent or draft pick 4. Put on your big boy pants and tell Rodgers we are drafting a QB prospect somewhere in the top 4 rounds. Who gives a sh*t about his feelings? Look at how last year worked out Easy decisions: Bye bye Becton, Whitehead, Uzomah, McGovern, Cook ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Huff's undrafted. JD only cherishes his draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Zero pro-bowl ish edge rusher since John Abraham over 15 years ago. Let go the best edge rusher we have had since John Abraham. How about no. Huff has to be kept. Has to. If anything JJ can be let go down the line if McDonald pans out. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Need to figure out a way to sign 10 new OL ..... get Davonte Adams ..... and sign Huff ....... our Craptain says so ! make it Happen Joe ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 There is no way the Jets should re-sign Huff. He is a good player a very nice pass rusher but it is his chance to make bank, something you only get a few chances to do as an NFL player. Though very different body types and styles Will McDonald and Huff have the same job, dedicated pass rusher who gets at max 50% of the D snaps No way we should be paying him a big contract even though he is a nice player. We have to delicate all off season resources to the offense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Nope. Too many holes on O line, plus need a #2 receiver. Bart Scott agrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Ya'll crazy. Guys like Huff havent been seen on this team in 15 years. There's plenty of money to give him a pay raise and load up on the offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Pass Rush Specialist. What is their Value? If a team that plays from the lead regularly was in need and we tagged him, what's his Value? 3rd round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 2:28 PM, Vader said: Is Bryce Huff as good as John Abraham was? I don't think so but he's probably our best pass rusher since Abe. It pains me to say it but @T0mShane was probably right about moving him before the trade deadline. If we tag/trade him it has to be for a 2024 pick, and not a 2025 like most of those tag and trade examples. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choklits Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 10:59 AM, DeerPark said: i would try to trade this premier pass rusher for a 2nd round pick He is a free agent and no, we will sadly let him go. He will command somewhere around $15-17 million and we don't have it. We need whatever money we have to sign receiver and/or oline. On top of that we drafted McDonald in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choklits Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 2:53 PM, BurntDice said: Tag and trade. This lets McDonald get more reps and saves around 20 mil on the cap. See if we can get a 1st or 2nd+ and take offense you are dreaming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I suspect they may use the transition tag if anything and opt to resign depending on offer from other team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Depends on what he wants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, choklits said: you are dreaming Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 10:46 AM, Bronx said: What will Bubba Turk Dogass decide? Discuss. It makes sense, so it’s not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I’m guessing they’ll make him an offer or tag him. He’s not really good as an every down player but pass rushers are hard to find and huff does a great job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 They will tag him trade him for a 2nd round pick. The guy is not a every down line man he is situational pass rusher. Right now that is a luxury for teams that are fully built and competing for a SB like the 49ers the Jets are not even making the playoffs and picking top 10 the guy us being traded. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 He will become a free agent and sign with another team. Jets aren't keeping him or getting trade value for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 2:28 PM, Vader said: Is Bryce Huff as good as John Abraham was? He’s not even close 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 They need to get something for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Spotrac has his market value at 4 year $9m per year. PFF has his potential contract at 3 years $13m per year. I think PFF’s contract is probably the better projection. We should sign him to that contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post football guy Posted December 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2023 I don't see him going for free. I think tag & trade for a 2nd round pick is very possible. The Jets drafted McDonald to be Huff's replacement. He's been operating as his direct "backup" in the rotation, they invested a heavy price in him, and he has a lot of the same traits Huff brings to the table. JJ, JFM, and Clemons aren't going anywhere, so the natural progression would be to bump up WMD's snaps and find a new backup for him either via draft or free agency. That would allow the Jets to use that $15-20/year elsewhere and give them more draft capital to invest where we are really struggling (on offense). Personally I'd rather keep him, but given the needs elsewhere and the price he'll cost, I could see them trading him to reallocate those resources elsewhere. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, football guy said: Personally I'd rather keep him, but given the needs elsewhere and the price he'll cost, I could see them trading him to reallocate those resources elsewhere. Getting a mid-to-late 1st would be of great help. A late 2nd might not be worth giving up on Huff. Either way, this is Ann all offensive draft. We have a small window & we need two quality OL (draft + FA) and a Tank Dell type steal in the 3rd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Woody views his players as "his property" Always has. He is not letting Huff go without compensation. He will get some type of tag and then traded A contending team will pony up something for him to make the difference in their SB run. Probably ends up being a low second round pick. The Jets should do the honorable thing and trade Huff to a team that wants to give him a longer-term deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/19/2023 at 1:28 PM, Vader said: Is Bryce Huff as good as John Abraham was? I dont think so. But he’s the best edge rusher we’ve had since him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyandtheJets Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 If we lose him to FA for nothing what happens? Third round comp pick in 2025? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, ChewyandtheJets said: If we lose him to FA for nothing what happens? Third round comp pick in 2025? 3 or 4 likely, probably a 3, depends on how much the team taking him pays him and how much we dip into FA as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said: Getting a mid-to-late 1st would be of great help. A late 2nd might not be worth giving up on Huff. Either way, this is Ann all offensive draft. We have a small window & we need two quality OL (draft + FA) and a Tank Dell type steal in the 3rd. I can't see them getting a 1st. I can absolutely see them getting a 2nd. The team I'm keeping an eye on is the Cardinals. They have the money, the capital, and the need. Their pass rush is amongst the worst in the league, Jonathan Gannon likes edge rushers who are built for the "wide 9", and Monti Ossenfort is close with JD. It's not likely to be a good free agent crop either with Josh Allen and Brian Burns likely getting franchised. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Beerfish said: 3 or 4 likely, probably a 3, depends on how much the team taking him pays him and how much we dip into FA as well. Given our needs along the OL and WR, I think we are going to have to dip into FA enough that a comp pick may not be int the cards. I think tag and trade would be our best option to ensure we get something for him. A day 2 pick to be used on offense would be nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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