UnitedWhofans Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, CTM said: I'm not assuming that it will happen but I'm extremely anxious that it just seems like a Jet thing to do. 2 things: 1. If it does happen and it doesn't work. he's gone anyway. 2. it flies in the face of a lot of facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, nycdan said: One other scenario that could actually work...CLE trades up from 4 to 2 to get Barkley and their 1st QB. Think about it. If CLE takes Barkley at 1, the Giants might as well move down from 2 to 4 and take Nelson there. Personally, I'm fine with however it plays out as long as Barkley goes 1 or 2. Makes sense, that would be beneficial to both Giants and Browns, unless the Giants can get the Bills to wildly overpay for #2 (and assuming the Giants dont want the QB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Nothing to really argue about. We have the 3rd pick, not the 1st. We are landing Darnold, Rosen or Allen. Most likely only one of them is left at 3.Mayfield over Allen Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Jets must like Darnold, Rosen, and Allen somewhat equally, right?... I don't know if I agree! Allen scares me... Maybe it's Hackenberg Syndrome but anytime I hear "project" QB now, I throw up a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Troll said: Baker me a franchise QB! The Jets stock is Rosen, I Darnold if you noticed! It was Allen I could do, not to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Until proven otherwise, I’m assuming it’s Allen because Jets. Hoping I’m wrong. If we take Allen over Rosen I might just have to walk into my job (in an ER) and commit myself to the psych ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Giants could easily trade down as well . To a QB needy team . We gave up #6 and three #2's to move up to #3. The cost to go to #2 is going to be even higher than that, who can pay that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estang74 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Better hit on the right QB and RB in the 3rd rd. Still doesn’t solve O line or Edge issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Crusher said: RosEYn? If it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, KRL said: We gave up #6 and three #2's to move up to #3. The cost to go to #2 is going to be even higher than that, who can pay that? The bills with 2 1st rd picks this year. They have the ammo if they don’t mind being fleeced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If it goes Browns: Allen; Giants: Rosen, do you want Darnold or Mayfield? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If it goes Browns: Allen; Giants: Rosen, do you want Darnold or Mayfield? https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2017/08/31/sam-darnold-extended-aggression/ https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2018/02/07/rsp-film-room-no-130-qb-sam-darnold-usc-git-r-done/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, DMan77 said: The Jets must like Darnold, Rosen, and Allen somewhat equally, right?... I don't know if I agree! Allen scares me... Maybe it's Hackenberg Syndrome but anytime I hear "project" QB now, I throw up a little. It's way more than Hackenberg syndrome, the vast majority of college QB's with completion % under 60% don't work out in the NFL. I think Carson Palmer might be the only one in the last 20 years and he topped 60% in his senior year and was around 60% for career (but slightly under) Allen is at 56% for comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Giants could easily trade down as well . To a QB needy team . Broncos if they want Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: If this is true, that's an awesome deal. Now we just have to pray somebody else takes Josh Allen and saves us from ourselves. no kidding there. I am deathly afraid that Allen will be the pick. Some NFL GMs can't get over his incredible arm strength and are gushing over him even though he can't complet a 10 yard out almost 50% of the time. I'm just praying that either the Browns or Giants takes Barkley or any non QB in the first 2 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Miss Lonelyhearts said: https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2017/08/31/sam-darnold-extended-aggression/ https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2018/02/07/rsp-film-room-no-130-qb-sam-darnold-usc-git-r-done/ If the Jets pass on Darnold for Mayfield at #3 they will have undone all the good they just did. Not saying Mayfield won't turn out to be a very good pro, possibly better than Darnold, but I see no way you can justify that choice at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 We gave up too much. based on the draft chart, a first-rounder our first second-rounder and a third round next year would have been enough to equal the amount if not more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BaumerJet said: We gave up too much. based on the draft chart, a first-rounder our first second-rounder and a third round next year would have been enough to equal the amount if not more The draft chart has never applied when trading up for a QB. Look at the Wentz and Goff trades for examples of this. We overpaid by the 'chart' but it was perfectly reasonable by historic metrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Isaac @_Montana9 Josh Rosen shaking hands with Jets GM !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BaumerJet said: We gave up too much. based on the draft chart, a first-rounder our first second-rounder and a third round next year would have been enough to equal the amount if not more Chart doesn’t take in to account positional value like getting a Franchise QB. which imo makes it flawed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, C Mart said: Josh Rosen shaking hands with Jets GM !!!! Hope this is first of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, nycdan said: If the Jets pass on Darnold for Mayfield at #3 they will have undone all the good they just did. Not saying Mayfield won't turn out to be a very good pro, possibly better than Darnold, but I see no way you can justify that choice at this time. All of this is just celebrating over nothing. There's a whole lot that can go wrong at 1, and 3 isn't 1. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 So we can have our pick of Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold, or Baker Mayfield, depending on who goes where 1 and 2. So is it SOJF of me to think we are drafting Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Miss Lonelyhearts said: All of this is just celebrating over nothing. There's a whole lot that can go wrong at 1, and 3 isn't 1. Not even close. There is always a chance of it going wrong. Doesnt mean it's the right thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, C Mart said: Isaac @_Montana9 Josh Rosen shaking hands with Jets GM !!!! It moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, TeddEY said: If it happens I just realized the name change. Can’t say I like this dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Like who? Please tell me that the won a Super Bowl. Favre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Rosen or Mayfield. Please no Allen. And hope the Giants don't trade their pick to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Holy hell I left the grid for a few hours to go look at some property in the Poconos and my phone is blown up with text messages about us trading up for the #3 pick. Macc Daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now who will be the selection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: All of this is just celebrating over nothing. There's a whole lot that can go wrong at 1, and 3 isn't 1. Not even close. Yeah, seems premature to celebrate. Honestly I feel like at 6 there was a better shot of some other dope saving Mac from himself. There are some indicators this is for Rosen, lets hope Mac is targeting Rosen and has a good idea he'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: Holy hell I left the grid for a few hours to go look at some property in the Poconos and my phone is blown up with text messages about us trading up for the #3 pick. Macc Daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now who will be the selection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: All of this is just celebrating over nothing. There's a whole lot that can go wrong at 1, and 3 isn't 1. Not even close. But just last night you said we weren’t even trading up?? Salty or nah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I think the Giants are taking Barkley---if he is there. I doubt they take nelson. Do not think they are going QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 It is more an attempt to secure fandom for not being able to get Cousins. We have just put ourselves on a reach pick for rounds 4-7. Remember this in January 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 49 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I legitimately have to believe that if the Giants are going QB, the Jets know now. Especially since we attempted to move up to one. They decided to do whatever it takes to climb the board. We were, clearly, willing to go higher than #3. It sounds like #3 was the earliest pick available and they have good reason to believe that their guy will be there. If it falls right, it will be for Rosen. Mccagnan and Gettleman are two old war horse scouts.. You have to think they know each other well. You have to think / hope the two have talked in general terms..Mcc: So dave what are your plans for eli....you looking at QB at 2...IF we were to get to #3 are we in a safe spot to get our guy (he went to a S.Cal college) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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