Losmeister Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 to me it looks like they think they'll get their guy with the #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Adoni Beast said: Thats a really nice signing for them. Seems like he wanted to play for a contender. Can’t blam him. He paid well too. Who says we’re not contending ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Losmeister said: to me it looks like they think they'll get their guy with the #3 There’s still time to get a pass rusher thru FA. If we do, trading back is still a possibility. If not then it’s pretty much written in stone we go Bosa/Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 You guys are crazy 1st off the colts aren't a contender, thier team sucks and it's because luck has no help. Houston was probably not even offered a contract for obvious reasons ... Play, age etc. Let's not pretend Houston was their Messiah pass rusher...would have been nice sure but not some huge massive miss like say if we didn't sign the best off and def FA available. I'm bummed but making up this story how Houston wanted to play on a winning team or contender...legit crazy. Colts are garbage and just offered him more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Makes sense We can just draft a guy a lot cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, section314 said: Probably, but you can't blame Houston. After literally being so close to going to the Super Bowl, the Colts make way more sense than we do right now. I know everyone likes indianapolis but i think they take a step back next year. I think teams will look at that KC game and come out with a totally different approach to Luck. Who has been a pretty good QB but seems to be flinching at the rush now. He was very jumpy against them. Maybe the cold had something to do with it, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, k-met57 said: not mad about it actually...Houston isnt the player he used to be and either 30 or 31...he doesnt fit with our timeline. We are 2-3 years away if we do everything right at which point he'd prob be over the hill (if he isnt already based on his numbers). Neither he nor Ford made a dent in the Pats Line at home in the AFC championship game. Tyreke was not much either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Similar to Paradis I don’t think he wanted to come here even if we overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I know I am tired of people blaming Macc for every player we do not sign. How does anyone know what his level of involvement was? Does anybody know wha t our scouts, coaches and other evaluators recommended? People are just talking out of their assholes. If i am committed to drafting a pass rusher, why do I go after Houston. It is overkill, and it is overpayment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: Who says we’re not contending ? Houston apparently lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I know I am tired of people blaming Macc for every player we do not sign. How does anyone know what his level of involvement was? Does anybody know wha t our scouts, coaches and other evaluators recommended? People are just talking out of their assholes. If i am committed to drafting a pass rusher, why do I go after Houston. It is overkill, and it is overpayment.It’s hilarious. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82nd Airborne Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Can you really blame the guy? Colts were a playoff team, a comeback QB and with tons of cap room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Unlike some other teams, Mac is not pushing the envelope so that the Jets compete this year while mortgaging their future as a result. He is putting a value on players and not overpaying. We can all question whether that is the right strategy. I don't know if it is, to be quite honest. One can argue that the future is now. If Mac was trying to keep his job, he would have paid the premium to sign Paradis, Z. Smith, Houston, Myers and/or Roberts. The Jets do have cap room. There may be a plan to trade down and accumulate lots of picks. Maybe next year is the year they go for it and pay stupid/premium money. After this year the contracts of Robby, Beachum, Shell, Winters (maybe), Leo and others expire. My point is NOT that Mac is trying to win now and doing a bad job. My point is that Mac does not appear to be attempting to win now. I don't know if that means that there will be an effective strategy to winning later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, RichardTodd27 said: Same here. Bosa/Allen or bust for me too. But can't lie, I'm a little concerned Mac will go BPA, take Quinen Williams and he'll eventually play out of position. That's my concern too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, choon328 said: I keep saying this over and over, Macc is a passive GM by nature and it is the worst type of GM to have with a young QB. $100 million to spend in FA and he gets a great ILB, a very good slot WR, a very good to great HB and trades for a very good Guard. Good start. Then completely whiffs on a Center (Morse) over what reports say is $1 million per year. Whiffs on every good to great edge rusher available. Hasn't addressed the #2 CB spot in a meaningful way. Roberts is NOT a #2 on a good team. Three of the most glaring needs on the team and he fails to get a concrete solution. What his failure is doing is completely eliminating the remote possibility of a trade down bc of the ******* glaring hole at Edge Rusher that this idiot has failed to fill in any way shape or form since he became the GM. Yes, Anthony Barr screwed them over but the Jets knew he was tentative before he backed out. They should have been setting up contingency plans in case he backed out because of that. They were completely caught off guard and panicked. Absolutely panicked as other edge rusher options went to other teams with way less money. His passiveness will kill any hopes of a great team in the near future. He does not have the testicular fortitude to do what needs to be done to make this a great team. I wish he could get fired today and let anybody else run the damn team. It's embarrassing. And one more thing. If he's not going to go all out to fill every need with a concrete solution, not a risky draft pick that fails way more than they succeed, then trade Leo and Lee and get an asset back before they leave for nothing. This guy is dumb. Houston is a washed up vet. Silly post IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, long time suffering Jets f said: That's my concern too. My question is whether Q Williams is BPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Walrus Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, jetscrazey said: As far as I'm concerned, trading down is no longer an option for the Jets. They need a big time pass rusher and simply have to draft either Bosa or Josh Allen, depending on how picks 1 and 2 go. I agree. A bird in the hand is worth 3 on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 @JiFIt was said that Gregg Williams prefers a certain type of DT. Does QW fit that profile? I dont know if he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Why can't we sign every available free agent???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, choon328 said: I keep saying this over and over, Macc is a passive GM by nature and it is the worst type of GM to have with a young QB. I stopped reading at this nonsense. Macc tried to pay cousins more than any other QB in history. He overpaid for leveon Bell. Houston is a nice player but you can't throw money around like there's no salary cap. Don't get me wrong, I would have liked Houston, but it's stupid to act like Macc has been passive this off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Give me Bosa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Not the end of the world. They're not getting 22 sack Justin Houston. They are getting 9 sack, 37 tackle Justin Houston, who missed significant time three of the last four season. With our needs and available funds, there was a reason he's not coming here. Remember the contract offered to Anthony Barr by the Jets. Why not Houston? Trust the process. Incidentally, Jordan Jenkins had strikingly similar numbers to Justin Houston last season, while playing on a horrific defense. He's not making anywhere near 12 million/season. Maybe the Jets thought the production wasn't worth the cost of the freight. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Macc is that guy in every auction league who has $130 dollars left when players like Cordarrelle Patterson are coming off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, jack48 said: I know I am tired of people blaming Macc for every player we do not sign. How does anyone know what his level of involvement was? Does anybody know wha t our scouts, coaches and other evaluators recommended? People are just talking out of their assholes. If i am committed to drafting a pass rusher, why do I go after Houston. It is overkill, and it is overpayment. THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 hours ago, playtowinthegame said: Did Mac even make an offer? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I stopped reading at this nonsense. Macc tried to pay cousins more than any other QB in history. He overpaid for leveon Bell. Houston is a nice player but you can't throw money around like there's no salary cap. Don't get me wrong, I would have liked Houston, but it's stupid to act like Macc has been passive this off-season. Houston is a more important player than Bell Macc sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Jets723 said: Similar to Paradis I don’t think he wanted to come here even if we overpaid. Paradis has a broke leg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Houston is a more important player than Bell Macc sucks You might want to stop abusing whatever substance you are on. 12 mil for a end of career lb...yeah no, thanks for playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Houston is a more important player than Bell Macc sucks To someone who has no clue about the game or is a troll looking to stir the shlt. Bell is 1000xs more important to Darnold than any player available. Darnold is 10000xs more important than Houston. Bell wins or sets up wins. Houston might play a full season. Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I prefer a much younger version of Houston available via the draft at #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I will say this. I have to give people here credit. Normal Jets Twitter is going berserk over this. Very calm and collected here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 [/url] Per Shifty SchefterThank God!!! Maybe now we can stop talking about overpaying a guy who hasn’t played a full season in 4 years. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, GREENBEAN said: Thank God!!! Maybe now we can stop talking about overpaying a guy who hasn’t played a full season in 4 years. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Yeah wouldn't want Woody to spend to the cap for the first time in Macc's tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 God we really need Kyler to go #1 now. Can’t leave the draft without Allen or Bosa absolutely can’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I prefer a much younger version of Houston available via the draft at #3. See...but that wasn't the only choice here. Houston on a 2 yr deal was the PERFECT solution for the Jets this year...the contract wouldn't impede signing the new guys that need new deals in a few yrs and gives you flexibility going forward into the draft. Personally, I thought the reason we didn't sign Houston was because he wanted more than 2 yrs on his deal...seeing he signed a 2 yr deal hurts. You could sign Houston and still draft Bosa/Allen if you can't trade back...or, you can feel better about the pass rush having signed Houston, and then traded back to do what is imminently more important and fill out your offense as the D is being de-emphasized in the modern day NFL where winning games 10-7 is a thing of the past. Signing Houston and/or drafting Bosa makes your whole D better...its amazing how much better CBs look when the opposing QB doesn't have all day in the pocket. Not signing Houston, or another viable edge guy, makes drafting an edge guy almost a 'need' and limits your flexibility to fix the ultimate problem the NYJ have which is ON OFFENSE. And we hired an OFFENSE oriented coach. 3 and outs SUCK and expose any and all faults on the D side of the ball. Having the D hang their heads when they give up 13 points in a game because they know the O can't score 14 SUCKS. Having a potential FQB and Leveon Bell while having multiple questions on O-line SUCKS. The WR's are borderline at best. We had the money to spend on Houston on a short term, team salary cap non-killing deal and balked. That was a mistake, IF Houston could have been bought for $. When you're rebuilding, you need TIME...which is what the cap space we had was for to tide you over while you have a few good drafts, and to make good use of Darnold's 'cheap yrs'. We're squandering that opportunity and praying that some college DP in his first year is going to reproduce what a Houston could've provided for $ while limiting our choices in the draft. Not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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