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Who is the better offensive mind?

Who is the better offensive mind?  

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  1. 1. Who is the better offensive mind?



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1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Guarantee you a Rex Ryan team would be running down highway 77 all game.

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People voting Rex are on crack. Ryan wanted nothing to do with the offense as long as the the team was ground & pound. 

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Rex was 100x better than Gase is. He had the personality and charisma needed for NY and for the NY Jets. 

Rex made things fun around here unlike a poorly coached and prepared Adam Gase football team. 

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6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

    2009 jets - 21.8 ppg, 321 ypg
    2010 jets - 22.9 ppg, 351 ypg

    2019 jets - 17.2 ppg, 273 ypg
    2020 jets (so far) - 15 ppg, 265.5 ypg

Not defending Gase here but what about the years Rex’s roster wasn’t stacked?

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1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

Rex was 100x better than Gase is. He had the personality and charisma needed for NY and for the NY Jets. 

Rex made things fun around here unlike a poorly coached and prepared Adam Gase football team. 

He definitely wore out his welcome and bombed in Buffalo, so I think a lot of people forget the last few Rex years and would rather romanticize him based on those two amazing years, but I still think he did more than Gase has shown he can do. 

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3 minutes ago, Drums said:

Not defending Gase here but what about the years Rex’s roster wasn’t stacked?

How many playoff games did Mangini win with a stacked roster??

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24 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

People voting Rex are on crack. Ryan wanted nothing to do with the offense as long as the the team was ground & pound. 

Just like Gase wants nothing to do with the defense I suppose. 

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4 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

How many playoff games did Mangini win with a stacked roster??

Not sure the point of this question tbh but Mangini wasn’t good either  Rex was the best out of the 3 no doubt but those stats were a bit cherry picked, no?

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Rex wanted to run the defense and call the defensive plays, but in order to do that as well as Rex did, obviously, you have to know all about offense.  You can't scheme and call defensive plays to counter an offense if you don't have an overall comprehensive knowledge about offense AND a full grasp on what the given offense you are facing week to week is inclined to do

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18 minutes ago, Drums said:

Not defending Gase here but what about the years Rex’s roster wasn’t stacked?

fair - i was just blindly going w/the first two years. 

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Tyrod Taylor was the 8th-ranked QB in DVOA under Greg Roman in 2015.  Rex Ryan fired Roman a few weeks into the 2016 season.  

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Rex Ryan made Sanchez serviceable and made Tyrod Taylor a starter in the NFL.  He also went 8-8 with Geno Smith.

Some would call Rex Ryan a QB whisperer. 

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10 minutes ago, JiF said:

Rex Ryan made Sanchez serviceable and made Tyrod Taylor a starter in the NFL. 

LOFL.

Sure, that was all Rex Ryan dude.  Sure.  Not Greg Roman, one of the top 5 offensive minds in the game.  It was all Rex.

And Rex made Sanchez "serviceable" similar to the way Hydrogen made the Hindenburg serviceable.  

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7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

LOFL.

Sure, that was all Rex Ryan dude.  Sure.  Not Greg Roman, one of the top 5 offensive minds in the game.  It was all Rex.

And Rex made Sanchez "serviceable" similar to the way Hydrogen made the Hindenburg serviceable.  

Rex Ryan won 4 road playoff games with Mark Sanchez making clutch plays along the way.  He developed Tyrod Taylor into a solid starter in this league who eventually led the Buffalo Bills to the playoffs for the first time in 30 years.

He's arguably done more with less at QB than anyone in the history of the NFL.

 

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3 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

People voting Rex are on crack. Ryan wanted nothing to do with the offense as long as the the team was ground & pound. 

Rex would be better because he would stay the hell away from something he knows nothing about and give it to someone else.

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5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Rex would be better because he would stay the hell away from something he knows nothing about and give it to someone else.

Which is exactly why Greg Williams is on the staff. 

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I thoroughly miss Rex's ground and pound approach. Running all over everybody in 09 and 10 was a thing of beauty

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3 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

He had the personality and charisma needed for Central Jersey and Staten Island

Fixed

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3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

    2009 jets - 21.8 ppg, 321 ypg
    2010 jets - 22.9 ppg, 351 ypg

    2019 jets - 17.2 ppg, 273 ypg
    2020 jets (so far) - 15 ppg, 265.5 ypg

That’s what comes from good oline play.

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@T0mShane wrote this about Rex Ryan: He had the personality and charisma needed for Central Jersey and Staten Island

Yes because Todd Bowles and Adam Gase have been the answer.

This team has been dull since he left. 

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40 minutes ago, rangerous said:

That’s what comes from good oline play.

And committing to the run. An olineman's life becomes a lot easier when you're running the ball more consistently.

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Rex had an identity at least with the ground and pound. Gase we still don’t know what the heck his game plan is. 

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4 hours ago, Drums said:

Not defending Gase here but what about the years Rex’s roster wasn’t stacked?

2012 Jets

299.2 yards/game

17.6 pts/game

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Rex obviously collapsed when Tanny's games expired and when he was asked to do too much.

But he brought the Jets to 2 AFCCGs in a row.  Over the last 20 years, how many NFL coaches have gone to their CCG 1/3 of the seasons they coached?  Win 8 games with Geno Smith?  

Is he perfect?  No.  Would I bring him in as an emergency interim to straighten out this mess and send Gase back to Michigan?  Absolutely.  

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Rex would handcuff Darnold and run the ball well all day.

Gase handcuffs Darnold but doesn't run the ball well.

 

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4 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

People voting Rex are on crack. Ryan wanted nothing to do with the offense as long as the the team was ground & pound. 

I’m pretty sure Gase wants nothing to do with the offense either.

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