***OFFICIAL*** FIRE JOE DOUGLAS THREAD

[oatmeal]

1 minute ago, Green Ghost said:

13-37 record in 3 seasons. Get better or GTFO.

This 

love the awards, love Garrett and Sauce but drafting a stud WR and CB isn’t enough to save this losing GM. We need more 

[Green Ghost]

20 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

This 

love the awards, love Garrett and Sauce but drafting a stud WR and CB isn’t enough to save this losing GM. We need more 

I mean yeah, he had a great draft, congrats. His first two were disasters though.

The problem going forward is how many more times in a draft will he have 3 1st round (2top 10) picks and another at the top of the 2nd?

 

[JETS SB]

2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

I mean yeah, he had a great draft, congrats. His first two were disasters though.

The problem going forward is how many more times in a draft will he have 3 1st round (2top 10) picks and another at the top of the 2nd?

 

His trade helped get us Garrett Wilson. 2022 draft was a home run and his free agent signings have gotten better too. If he gets Rodgers and the Jets get to the playoffs and beyond and he is here for a while. Seems like Woody had that smirk on his face when asked about Rodgers. I think they are all in on him.

[Hex]

1 hour ago, oatmeal said:

This 

love the awards, love Garrett and Sauce but drafting a stud WR and CB isn’t enough to save this losing GM. We need more 

Don't forget he drafted Hall and AVT as well, and Hall would have gotten OROY if he hadn't gotten hurt. Not to mention FA pickups such as Zeurlein and Reed. That's not even mentioning his Jamal Adams and Sam Darnold trades that made half of this possible.

JD's teams have been getting exponentially better, his drafts have been getting better, everything has been getting better, even despite the meltdown and the QB being exempt from 'everything'. Next season the Jets will be in the playoffs and hopefully this talk will all finally die down. 

There's a select group of you that will call for his head no matter what type of achievements this team accomplishes, and while that's totally fine, you may want to rethink things come next season.

[JoJoTownsell1]

1 hour ago, Green Ghost said:

I mean yeah, he had a great draft, congrats. His first two were disasters though.

The problem going forward is how many more times in a draft will he have 3 1st round (2top 10) picks and another at the top of the 2nd?

 

The bigger problem is a fan base that forgets that prior GMs could have 20 first round picks the last 2 years and not hit on guys like AVT,  Garrett Wilson,  Sauce and Breece in back to back years.  

[oatmeal]

3 hours ago, Hex said:

Don't forget he drafted Hall and AVT as well, and Hall would have gotten OROY if he hadn't gotten hurt. Not to mention FA pickups such as Zeurlein and Reed. That's not even mentioning his Jamal Adams and Sam Darnold trades that made half of this possible.

JD's teams have been getting exponentially better, his drafts have been getting better, everything has been getting better, even despite the meltdown and the QB being exempt from 'everything'. Next season the Jets will be in the playoffs and hopefully this talk will all finally die down. 

There's a select group of you that will call for his head no matter what type of achievements this team accomplishes, and while that's totally fine, you may want to rethink things come next season.

 

3 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

The bigger problem is a fan base that forgets that prior GMs could have 20 first round picks the last 2 years and not hit on guys like AVT,  Garrett Wilson,  Sauce and Breece in back to back years.  

13-37 

Oh and It didn’t take the giants new GM and coach 1 million years to reach success. 

[kevinc855]

5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

I mean, he could have taken Ickey at 4 and Woolen in the 5th round.

Fire Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He took zach

13-37 with no qb entering 23 

[CSNY]

To all that want JD gone ask yourselves this 

1) Has the talent on this team gotten better 

2) Who else would you want as GM? 
 

JD with his missteps (which every team has made) has been the best GM we’ve had in quite sometime 

[jgb]

JD just drafted OROTY and DROTY. Surprised Woody hasn’t extended him already. If he just secures average QB play next year, he will be.

[southparkcpa]

Let's keep in mind, Mike friggin McCagnon won exec of the year in 2015.  

JD had a GREAT draft but his record sucks. 

Most important position in all of sports and he can't fix it.

His 1st 2 drafts are horrible.  

 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

4 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

Let's keep in mind, Mike friggin McCagnon won exec of the year in 2015.  

JD had a GREAT draft but his record sucks. 

Most important position in all of sports and he can't fix it.

His 1st 2 drafts are horrible.  

 

I can't take your post seriously if you think that the 2021 draft was horrible. 

[Biggs]

As a long time Jets fan it’s nice to see the owner rewarding consistent team performance.  

[kevinc855]

43 minutes ago, CSNY said:

) Has the talent on this team gotten better

Yes yet under his regime (4 years now)not one winning season. Something is wrong. Coaching? Well he hired him as well. Something is off. Not saying to fire him tomorrow but am I rolling out the carpet for 13-37? No I’m not. 

[Yeetin It]

Why does this thread keep getting unearthed. He’s getting one more year… at least. Wait to see who he brings in at QB, give it one more year, and then this can be considered

[Biggs]

27 minutes ago, Yeetin It said:

Why does this thread keep getting unearthed. He’s getting one more year… at least. Wait to see who he brings in at QB, give it one more year, and then this can be considered

There are people on this board who don’t have one more year.   

[sciond]

45 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

Let's keep in mind, Mike friggin McCagnon won exec of the year in 2015.  

JD had a GREAT draft but his record sucks. 

Most important position in all of sports and he can't fix it.

His 1st 2 drafts are horrible.  

 

If you think the 21 draft was horrible your expectations have to be a bit skewed...That draft will have at least 1 pro bowl player in it.

Remember the Idzik 12?

[JTJet]

18 minutes ago, sciond said:

If you think the 21 draft was horrible your expectations have to be a bit skewed...That draft will have at least 1 pro bowl player in it.

Remember the Idzik 12?

Idzik 12 and the Douglas 9 are pretty much a wash. Both drafts were historically bad. 

I do remember Idzik drafting a defensive rookie of the year, future nfl comeback player of the year/pro bowler, and a SuperBowl champion in 1 draft though.

AND he rostered a .500 season that year. Something JD STILL has not done with twice as much time. 

Sooo...

[sciond]

9 minutes ago, JTJet said:

Idzik 12 and the Douglas 9 are pretty much a wash. Both drafts were historically bad. 

I do remember Idzik drafting a defensive rookie of the year, future nfl comeback player of the year/pro bowler, and a SuperBowl champion in 1 draft though.

AND he rostered a .500 season that year. Something JD STILL has not done with twice as much time. 

Sooo...

If you think these 2 they are equal we obliviously do not see football the same way. You can't fully blame the 20 draft on JD and I have been watching the Jets longer than most people and you would be hard to pressed to name a draft as good as this years. The last one was 2006 and this seems far better......think about that for a moment..... nobody under the age of 25 probably even remembers that draft 

Maybe you want Idzik back though

You can probably get Kotite to coach the team

[southparkcpa]

40 minutes ago, sciond said:

If you think the 21 draft was horrible your expectations have to be a bit skewed...That draft will have at least 1 pro bowl player in it.

Remember the Idzik 12?

Douglas gets a pass too much IMO, he's not terrible, but he is not above average and at some point, you should measure him on his record.    but yes, compared to Idzik, he's fantastic.     

[southparkcpa]

1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

I can't take your post seriously if you think that the 2021 draft was horrible. 

agreed... I misspoke. But JD's record must be part of the conversation.

[32EBoozer]

2 hours ago, CSNY said:

To all that want JD gone ask yourselves this 

1) Has the talent on this team gotten better. Only in the last 10 months

2) Who else would you want as GM?OZZIE NEWSOME
 

JD with his missteps (which every team has made) has been the best GM we’ve had in quite sometime 

JD changed his draft philosophy last year. Quality Over Quantity. He doesn’t have the extra picks to burn this year, especially if trading for a starting QB. He’ll need to nail this draft again… especially quality mid-round OL (Center & OT); LB & Safety. 

[sciond]

2 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

Douglas gets a pass too much IMO, he's not terrible, but he is not above average and at some point, you should measure him on his record.    but yes, compared to Idzik, he's fantastic.     

As Jet fans our problem is giving people a chance. What I see is a young GM getting better who started with the worst roster in the NFL and has built an a pretty damn good team that is a QB away from being a top team in the league.

[Rich Thornburgh]

If Zach Wilson ends up starting at any point next season JD will be fired.  And deservedly so.

[Rich Thornburgh]

2 minutes ago, sciond said:

As Jet fans our problem is giving people a chance. What I see is a young GM getting better who started with the worst roster in the NFL and has built an a pretty damn good team that is a QB away from being a top team in the league.

We are a qb away because JD clearly has no idea how to evaluate the qb position 

[sciond]

1 hour ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

We are a qb away because JD clearly has no idea how to evaluate the qb position 

How many other GM's in this league get it wrong over and over again....

many times they are more lucky than good

or every great QB would have been an early 1st round pick

[68JET11]

3 hours ago, oatmeal said:

Oh and It didn’t take the giants new GM and coach 1 million years to reach success. 

That is all Daboll.... so far, to early to tell about the GM, but we've got a good one here, despite all the crap this fan base talks about. Saleh is not half the coach Daboll is.

[Rich Thornburgh]

1 minute ago, sciond said:

How many other GM's in this league get wrong over and over again....

many times they are more lucky than good

or every great QB would have been an early 1st round pick

JD during his tenure has drafted arguably the worst qb bust since Ryan Leaf, traded for Joe Flacco and drafted James Morgan.  He also got rid of Sam Darnold who is clearly better than any qb he has brought in

 

JD doesn’t understand the qb position and ultimately I think this gets him fired

[Rich Thornburgh]

1 minute ago, 68JET11 said:

That is all Daboll.... so far, to early to tell about the GM, but we've got a good one here, despite all the crap this fan base talks about. Saleh is not half the coach Daboll is.

And Saleh is to blame for these quarterbacks that JD acquired being all horrible?  How is anyone coaching up these clowns?

[68JET11]

4 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

And Saleh is to blame for these quarterbacks that JD acquired being all horrible?  How is anyone coaching up these clowns?

You guys expect everyone to be an NFL Hall of Famer... It doesn't work like that, some are going to be Sauce and Garrett, and some won't.  It's just the way picking in the NFL draft goes... Get over it 

[slats]

8 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

13-37 record in 3 seasons. Get better or GTFO.

This is garbage, quite frankly. 2-14 in Gase’s failure of a season that probably removed him from the NFL ranks for all eternity. 4-13 in a massive Maccagnan cleanup year, starting 5th and 6th rounders on defense, basically just throwing ****on the wall there and seeing what sticks. Both that season and last were met with some crippling injuries, which are a little beyond the GMs scope. If Breece and AVT don’t go down, last year’s team makes the playoffs - despite horrible QB play. 
 
Joe’s mentor, Ozzie Newsome, often regarded as one of the greatest executives ever, didn’t enjoy his first winning season until his sixth in the position. 5-11, 4-12, 6-9-1, 6-10. People here would’ve fired him two years before he won that first Super Bowl. 
 
I get it, Zach looks like a massive bust at this point, and the odds on that improving seem slim. But this whole reactionary board wanted to fire Ulbrich a year ago, not a ****ing peep about him now, though. Weird. They’re on course. They need to stay that course. 
 
It’s the SOJ crowd who consistently want the Jets to do SOJ things like fire everybody, bring in the next up & coming hot shot, then complain when they’re not perfect as rookies. Even when the guy drafts both the OROY and DROY, the complaints keep coming. Unbelievable. 

[Dunnie]

3 minutes ago, slats said:

This is garbage, quite frankly. 2-14 in Gase’s failure of a season that probably removed him from the NFL ranks for all eternity. 4-13 in a massive Maccagnan cleanup year, starting 5th and 6th rounders on defense, basically just throwing ****on the wall there and seeing what sticks. Both that season and last were met with some crippling injuries, which are a little beyond the GMs scope. If Breece and AVT don’t go down, last year’s team makes the playoffs - despite horrible QB play. 
 
Joe’s mentor, Ozzie Newsome, often regarded as one of the greatest executives ever, didn’t enjoy his first winning season until his sixth in the position. 5-11, 4-12, 6-9-1, 6-10. People here would’ve fired him two years before he won that first Super Bowl. 
 
I get it, Zach looks like a massive bust at this point, and the odds on that improving seem slim. But this whole reactionary board wanted to fire Ulbrich a year ago, not a ****ing peep about him now, though. Weird. They’re on course. They need to stay that course. 
 
It’s the SOJ crowd who consistently want the Jets to do SOJ things like fire everybody, bring in the next up & coming hot shot, then complain when they’re not perfect as rookies. Even when the guy drafts both the OROY and DROY, the complaints keep coming. Unbelievable. 

Please stop making sense ... im starting to get uncomfortable.   This threads needs to be retitled build statue and extend JD for six more years.

[Scott Dierking]

Please change thread title to "Attention seekers that should be split like a pretzel". 

[Dunnie]

20 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

If Zach Wilson ends up starting at any point next season JD will be fired.  And deservedly so.

If JD wins Rogers ... Zach wont see the field most likely unless there is an unfortunate injury.  Rogers plays through normal injuries.

Zach will see the field in pre-season. Will be relegated to 3rd string and be required to work his way back.

Zach WILL get a shot to start in 2025 ... with or without the Jets.

[32EBoozer]

4 minutes ago, slats said:

Joe’s mentor, Ozzie Newsome, often regarded as one of the greatest executives ever, didn’t enjoy his first winning season until his sixth in the position. 5-11, 4-12, 6-9-1, 6-10. People here would’ve fired him two years before he won that first Super Bowl. 

Hopefully JD & Ozzie spend 4 days in absolute darkness & figure out how to get a Starting Center, Starting Weak-side LB, Starting FS and depth at OT, DL and a developmental QB this draft. 
 

It will be tougher if we trade a Draft Pick for Rodgers. 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

28 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

If Zach Wilson ends up starting at any point next season JD will be fired.  And deservedly so.

It's game 17 and the Jets are 14-2. They have clinched a first round bye. Zach Wilson starts to give Rodgers a rest. You're firing JD?