1010WINS Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 The guy turned around Atlanta’s defense after Quinn was canned. Patience brothers. Ulbrich and Saleh are brilliant defensive minds. They will Improve every week. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RSJ Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 Atlanta hasnt had a good defense the entire 46 years I have been alive.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mo Lew Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, 1010WINS said: The guy turned around Atlanta’s defense after Quinn was canned. Patience brothers. Ulbrich and Saleh are brilliant defensive minds. They will Improve every week. Find a different site. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticalJet2 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Maybe he will, maybe he won’t. But until he proves otherwise, he will and should continue to get heat. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, 1010WINS said: They will Improve every week. So was their plan to go backwards for 8 weeks and then start going forward? I'm confused here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, RSJ said: Atlanta hasnt had a good defense the entire 46 years I have been alive. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app That is what I was thinking... I mean what is this guy talking about? The def is def not getting better every week. It seems like they were not prepared at all against the colts. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Ok giving up 54 and 45 points is enough to get more than heat accountable 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, 1010WINS said: The guy turned around Atlanta’s defense after Quinn was canned. Patience brothers. Ulbrich and Saleh are brilliant defensive minds. They will Improve every week. good grief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Remember when we drafted 20 defensive backs to play hybrid linebacker and were told that's the way to defend in today's NFL? Ooops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rangers9 Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 I disagree. This isn't your average kind of dysfunction on defense when you try to implement a new system. There are abnormal breakdowns and indicators of complete team lack of buy in on the defense and scheme problems. The players are out of position and multiple opponents are seeing through this it's not just one bad game. Is it that the team has such poor personnel they can't compete. We knew the secondary was young and inexperienced but look at the holes in the line and success of other teams running game. These guys are not on the same page and teams are running up big scores almost every week. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, JTJet said: So was their plan to go backwards for 8 weeks and then start going forward? I'm confused here. if you get worse then it's easier to get better at the end of the season and have an offseason of "Darnold won a bunch of games and got better at the end of the season!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, dcJet said: Remember when we drafted 20 defensive backs to play hybrid linebacker and were told that's the way to defend in today's NFL? Ooops. What if this is the point, but for different reasons. Our linebackers as a whole haven’t had time to play together in this system. Hamsah, 3 games played, IR Sherwood, 5 games played, IR Davis, 2 games played, IR Cashman, 1 game played, IR Del’Shawn, lived on PS, 4 games played Dawkins, waived in summer, signed for 1 game then cut. Williams, signed ten minutes before kickoff and has played the most (7 games) Mosley, 7 games played 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 So glad we switched to a 4-3 with smaller faster players playing zone coverage…bend but don’t break is today’s NFL! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 39 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: if you get worse then it's easier to get better at the end of the season and have an offseason of "Darnold won a bunch of games and got better at the end of the season!" Good point lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 hours ago, 1010WINS said: The guy turned around Atlanta’s defense after Quinn was canned. Patience brothers. Ulbrich and Saleh are brilliant defensive minds. They will Improve every week. He will be fine. Ulbrich's just as clueless as the rest of them, and its an old boy network. He has 2 more seasons at least after this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 hours ago, 1010WINS said: The guy turned around Atlanta’s defense after Quinn was canned. Patience brothers. Ulbrich and Saleh are brilliant defensive minds. They will Improve every week. You guys still running that ticker tape machine in the background? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Okay, so a 3 deep zone with the LB's dropping immediately will cause the flat to be wide open every time, especially if the D-line is in 'just go' mode. When our LB's are playing great, they recover and make that tackle. When our Dline is playing great, the one guy there makes that tackle on the runner at the line. BUT, our D is still figuring this out and if the 1 guy there doesn't make the tackle, then it's off to the races. As we move into next year, the little DB's becoming LB's should be stronger and better able, and we will hopefully bring in some free agents that can flow to the ball and we will start having gang tackles where 11 guys are at the ball, not just 1. Then every play isn't a "he could have had him for a loss of 1 but instead it's a 13 yard run" or "dump off in the flat for 72 yards". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 20 hours ago, 1010WINS said: Ulbrich and Saleh are brilliant defensive minds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 21 hours ago, dcJet said: Remember when we drafted 20 defensive backs to play hybrid linebacker and were told that's the way to defend in today's NFL? Ooops. Actually the defense played better when Sherwood and Nasirideen were in there but they have both been injured so the LB position has been a revolving door...Moseley and Jarrad Davis are just slow and it is killing us. We have no speed right now at LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 23 hours ago, 1010WINS said: The guy turned around Atlanta’s defense after Quinn was canned. Patience brothers. Ulbrich and Saleh are brilliant defensive minds. They will Improve every week. Nowhere to go but up from here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Probably should have been in this post. https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/162879-franchise-record/?do=findComment&comment=5148212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 This whole defense is based on the front four creating havoc in both the running and passing games. For the most part, teams have figured them out and are stoning them... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 9:54 AM, 1010WINS said: The guy turned around Atlanta’s defense after Quinn was canned. Patience brothers. Ulbrich and Saleh are brilliant defensive minds. They will Improve every week. If that is brilliance I'd hate to see incompetence... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 10:28 AM, faba said: Ok giving up 54 and 45 points is enough to get more than heat accountable 54 points... Then 45... Relax... They're only due to give up 36 against the Bills this week... What;'s the problem? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 He has earned every degree of that heat. I would like to propose we replace the British Thermal Unit and metric joules with the standard Ulbrich (uB) Its a unit of heat inversely proportional to the competency of a materials ability to resist radiant, conductive, or convective heat that is generated when your defense is getting roasted. A KiloUlbrich (kU) or 1,000 Ulbrichs is 1 Saleh (sH) Sorry. Been reading a lot of Fire Dynamics stuff lately.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I thought the d played over their heads for weeks. Reverting to their mean seems like reasonable expectations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 23 hours ago, Greenseed4 said: What if this is the point, but for different reasons. Our linebackers as a whole haven’t had time to play together in this system. Hamsah, 3 games played, IR Sherwood, 5 games played, IR Davis, 2 games played, IR Cashman, 1 game played, IR Del’Shawn, lived on PS, 4 games played Dawkins, waived in summer, signed for 1 game then cut. Williams, signed ten minutes before kickoff and has played the most (7 games) Mosley, 7 games played Why does Joe Douglas always draft players who get hurt? Could add Ashtyn Davis, Becton, Jabari Zuniga and others to the list above. And if it's not the players and the thinking is that it's the Jets training and medical staff then.... why does Joe Douglas continue to run one of the NFL's worst training and medical staffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 10:42 AM, dcJet said: Remember when we drafted 20 defensive backs to play hybrid linebacker and were told that's the way to defend in today's NFL? Ooops. Remember when you needed more than half a season to draw conclusions about a drafted player? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 He explained what happened in his Friday presser. They tried to out another bar in the box but that confused them and didn’t work. They were off balance all game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Keep the heat on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 11:17 AM, Greenseed4 said: What if this is the point, but for different reasons. Our linebackers as a whole haven’t had time to play together in this system. Hamsah, 3 games played, IR Sherwood, 5 games played, IR Davis, 2 games played, IR Cashman, 1 game played, IR Del’Shawn, lived on PS, 4 games played Dawkins, waived in summer, signed for 1 game then cut. Williams, signed ten minutes before kickoff and has played the most (7 games) Mosley, 7 games played I think people are nuts man. Not to say the injury thing is the only reason for the downturn but it has to be included. The truth is for the first 4 weeks the D was generally keeping us in games. Not dominant or anything like that, but I don't think many would argue they were outplaying their rookie and draft position status. So they've gotten beat up for a bit now while the offense has seemingly turned a corner for the better. It would be really cool i they could all do it during the same game, but this seems to be right in line with what we should have expected from team built like we were. New everyone from Coaches to QB. the team is getting the experience we want from this year. I'd say we have a few keepers from the last draft(s) with some potential for more. MC2 and Hall look to be good enough to factor into the starting plans with Echols looking more like a reserve dime type. Still a good find. The S/LB's stories aren't written yet either. The IR stuff sucks but Sherwood looked like he was progressing and the staff loves him. Obviously AVT, Carter1 and Moore look the part with Wilson still struggling. It's a process but I'm pretty content overall with the progress. Sloppy Sloppy ??♂️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 He said in the summer that this defense requires a fierce pass rush or the secondary struggles the Jets pass rush is spotty and ineffective, like one of Shane’s pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 He should be taking heat. His ass cheeks should be red hot right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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