HessStation Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Maxman said: I know. When the draft rolls around and Darnold isn't selected # 1 it will be funny. DMC...we have to get DMC. Lose this game. Guys DMC is a beast. The Jets win, DMC goes to the Raiders at 3. The Jets draft Gholston at 5. Guess what? DMC has had a nice career with one 1,000 yard season for the team that drafted him. He has average year is 602.5 yards rushing. Joe Flacco was drafted 18th overall that year. The Jets aren't going to be close to the first pick. I have said it a million times, they won't be drafting in the top 5. The defense showed why today. You are so excited about mediocrity for the rest of your life. I'm jealous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 We don't need the first overall but Darnold and Rosen are such good prospects that they stand our head and shoulders over the others. They are 1st overall picks in most drafts. On the otherhand guys like Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Luke Falk are all also legitimate first rounders that would be top 5 another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 8 hours ago, varjet said: Miami was supposed to be a playoff team. They are now 0-2, giving them a 12% playoff likelihood. Someone must be angry. Miami are 1-1 (they beat the Chargers last week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1983 NFL Draft; (example as one of the better QB drafts in NFL History) 1.1 = John Elway 1.7 = Todd Blackledge 1.14 = Jim Kelly 1.15 = Tony Eason 1.24 = Ken O'Brien 1.27 = Dan Marino The game has changed and these would be much higher picks (top ten?) picks this year Coincidentally there are potentially the same number of first round QB's this year - they are (not in order) Sam Darnold Mason Rudolph Josh Rosen Baker Mayfield Luke Falk Josh Allen Lamar Jackson Jets, still need to make the right selection, regardless of draft position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog45 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 12 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Sam Darnold Josh Rosen JOsh Allen Clayton Thorson Baker Mayfield Jake BRowning Luke Falk Lamar JAckson This is a QB loaded draft. The Jets dont need the top pick to get a good QB. So dont bitch about winning a game with the young talent performing well It's either darnold or Rosen the others don't need the time of day, we need top 3 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicg4360 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I like Darnold just as much as anyone else and he makes alot if great plays/throws but his INT's really should not be overlooked. You can be a fantastic QB in the NFL but if your throwing pics almost as much as throwing TD's that's a problem. I prefer the pic/TD ratio of Rosen every day. Sent from my Moto Z using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 we don't, some people just understand football. Think the 1 pick will make jesus walk on water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 It's gonna be really interesting around here when Hackenberg is starting Week 1 in 2018 and the Jets select Minkah Fitzpatrick in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 We don't, but the next time Macc is in a bidding war to get a future franchise signal caller like he was with Philly to move up, and get Wentz he needs to win that bidding war no matter the cost, and no matter the outcome (QB busts, or succeeds), because not trying because your scared of failure is just that failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 10 hours ago, jetrider said: Jets need a supertalent that can overcome derelict coaching. Project QBs have zero chance here. Call me crazy but I do have some confidence that the combination of Morton and Bates can actually develop a young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: It's gonna be really interesting around here when Hackenberg is starting Week 1 in 2018 and the Jets select Minkah Fitzpatrick in the 1st round. If they don't have Darnold, or Rosen still on the board when they pick next draft then not picking a QB just because is the right move, hopefully the Jets get a true edge rusher like Arden Key, or Franchise LT, or a playmaker at ANY offensive position. You don't over draft Josh Allen just because, or any of the other QB's with huge question marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 12 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Josh Rosen Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield / Lamar JAckson Jake BRowning Clayton Thorson / Luke Falk JOsh Allen This is a QB loaded draft. The Jets dont need the top pick to get a good QB. So dont bitch about winning a game with the young talent performing well more like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: We don't, but the next time Macc is in a bidding war to get a future franchise signal caller like he was with Philly to move up, and get Wentz he needs to win that bidding war no matter the cost, and no matter the outcome (QB busts, or succeeds), because not trying because your scared of failure is just that failure. well due to the Richardson trade we do have 2 second round picks. If the Jets end up winning some games and end up around 7-12 on the draft board moving up to number 2 wont be impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: If they don't have Darnold, or Rosen still on the board when they pick next draft then not picking a QB just because is the right move, hopefully the Jets get a true edge rusher like Arden Key, or Franchise LT, or a playmaker at ANY offensive position. You don't over draft Josh Allen just because, or any of the other QB's with huge question marks. You don't draft Allen, period. We already have the guy with all the physical tools, strong arm, blah blah... Hackenburg. We need to draft a for real QB and to me its still: Rosen Darnold if neither of those 2 are options then you target the QB that you think would be best in our Offense. Which right now I think its Mayfield, for this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 It'll be Petty handing off to Barkley with Josh Allen waiting in the wings, after we trade back into the first round to grab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: It'll be Petty handing off to Barkley with Josh Allen waiting in the wings, after we trade back into the first round to grab him. As crazy as it would be to not draft a QB next April/May, Barkley looks so impressive that it almost wouldn't bother me. His highlights are ridiculous. He might be better than Elliot, Gurley or anyone else that's come out in the last 10 years. And a RB like that would make any QB we put out there look a lot better. I still want Rosen or Darnold but if we end up with Petty and Barkley, and the young WRs develop and the defense continues to play like it did yesterday, I could root for this team with some hope again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If Darnold/Rosen are off the board when the Jets pick, I would really like to see the Jets pick Barkley in the first and get a QB in the second, or trade back into the first round to get a QB. I could live with a backfield of Barkley and Falk/Rudolph/etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: If Darnold/Rosen are off the board when the Jets pick, I would really like to see the Jets pick Barkley in the first and get a QB in the second, or trade back into the first round to get a QB. I could live with a backfield of Barkley and Falk/Rudolph/etc... This would be a welcoming consolation prize. But so help me god if they pick any defensive player. I don't even want the best available OLB that looks the part. Bowles has enough to work with for now on that side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: This would be a welcoming consolation prize. But so help me god if they pick any defensive player. I don't even want the best available OLB that looks the part. Bowles has enough to work with for now on that side. Amen. If they end up picking a defensive player, I'll be pissed (unless he ends up being the second coming of Lawrence Taylor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Watson looked fvckin' great yesterday. Went into Foxboro and came thisclose to beating the Pats. He really deserved a better fate. No knock on Adams, but a really good QB is significantly more important than a safety and always will be. Problem is this franchise pretends it can win something with a very good defense and an offense of duct tape, free agents, low round draft picks and bubble gum. it's been that way for a very long time. Simply watching them win 6 -7 games to eff themselves out of a franchise QB AGAIN is pointless. Will never root for them to lose. Big Picture: there have been too many bum fights won that wound up being a log term disaster. can no longer pretend otherwise. Winning with a 38 year old QB who will be gone in January is a waste. Will give OC Morton a world of credit; getting the most you possibly could out of this low talent offense and has found some decent OL pieces. Hard-pressed to do a better job than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, legler82 said: Call me crazy but I do have some confidence that the combination of Morton and Bates can actually develop a young QB. they can.. as Long as it's... Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 14 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Sam Darnold Josh Rosen JOsh Allen Clayton Thorson Baker Mayfield Jake BRowning Luke Falk Lamar JAckson This is a QB loaded draft. The Jets dont need the top pick to get a good QB. So dont bitch about winning a game with the young talent performing well We might not win another game but usually when you draft first overall your team is a dumpster fire. Which probably makes it difficult for said player to be successful. Which probably makes free agebts hard to attract, including udfa. Drafting QB is such an inexact science. Below is a list since 2000 for reference. Jury is still out on most. 2001 Michael Vick 2002 David Carr 2003 Carson Palmer 2004 Eli Manning 2005 Alex Smith 2007 JaMarcus Russell 2009 Matthew Stafford 2010 Sam Bradford 2011 Cam Newton 2012 Andrew Luck 2015 Jameis Winston 2016 Jared Goff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 All I know is it BETTER be either a Defensive lineman who we can try to turn into an outside LBer or a safety or CB I'm tired of watching the Jets neglect these positions with their highest DPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: If Darnold/Rosen are off the board when the Jets pick, I would really like to see the Jets pick Barkley in the first and get a QB in the second, or trade back into the first round to get a QB. I could live with a backfield of Barkley and Falk/Rudolph/etc... Id take this one step further - Barkley in the first and 2 QBs in the 2nd-middle rounds. Its such a crapshoot to figure out who is Dak Prescott and who is Jake Locker, that Id rather increase our chances and go into TC with Petty, and some combination of Mayfield/Luke Falk/Jackson. Having Barkley in this offense, with Enunwa in the H-Back type role he played in 2015 and a legitimate TE, would allow the team to really run the ball, and help a young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 14 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: And Geno Smith had 42 TDS and 6 ints in his last year in college. I'm sure whatever team drafted him is happy about that pick. Darnold, Darnold, Darnold. Picking a college QB favorite is like picking a favorite in the Kentucky derby. Nothing is a sure bet. Lets just get better every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 17 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: His picks certainly played well today Too bad there's all those other games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 18 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Sam Darnold Josh Rosen JOsh Allen Clayton Thorson Baker Mayfield Jake BRowning Luke Falk Lamar JAckson This is a QB loaded draft. The Jets dont need the top pick to get a good QB. So dont bitch about winning a game with the young talent performing well Tim Couch Donovan McNabb Akili Smith Daunte Culpepper Cade McNown Shaun King Brock Huard Joe Germaine Aaron Brooks Kevin Daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 So we can trade it away and get a bunch of picks. They need a hell of a lot more then just a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If the jets had the 1st pick in the draft and traded it for a bunh of picks next year that would be the very last straw. End of line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: If the jets had the 1st pick in the draft and traded it for a bunh of picks next year that would be the very last straw. End of line. Yea that would kill me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 boy tough crowd. no pleasing anyone after a win. in truth the jets don't need to have the first pick. if they want to draft a particular qb so badly they can go get him. trade future picks if necessary. whatever it takes. as long as they don't tip their hand, a reasonable number of draft picks can be used. or they can go into the free agent market or even trade for one. i'll bet the bungles are plenty upset with red ryder at the moment. not that he'd be my first choice but he does have a decent track record. but the first pick is very desirable in qb rich years simply that's the position that teams go ga ga over. the jets could conceivably trade out of the number one slot and choose the second or third without too much drop off. and then , of course, there's still the hack and petty dilemma. no telling if either of those guys can play reliably in the big show. hopefully we'll see but at the moment it looks like one will get in only with the season out of reach. as they say, there's plenty of football left and the patsies look plenty vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Tim Couch Donovan McNabb Akili Smith Daunte Culpepper Cade McNown Shaun King Brock Huard Joe Germaine Aaron Brooks Kevin Daft nice. i was bringing up the 99 draft to show why brady wasn't quite the reach he was purported to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: If the jets had the 1st pick in the draft and traded it for a bunh of picks next year that would be the very last straw. End of line. it depends. the number one pick should give them flexibility to move down a place or two. unless one of these college qb's stats getting some real separation there's no telling which is the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 It's better to have options than not to have options. The higher the Jets pick the better. Picking first should be the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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