Jetsbb Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1 When Rex was our coach we damn well new what our ranking was as he reminded everyone every chance he got. With our draft history of drafting exclusively defensive players in the first round for 10 years and only defensive head coaches for 20 years this is very embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheaRay Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 So in other words TB brings nothing to the table in terms of being a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 I don’t care what the stats say- we have a top 10 defense. And I want Bowles fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Without a legitimate pass rush this is usually the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Bowles was supposed to get this D back to being top 5. He failed miserably. Good bye Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 McCarthy for head coach. Bring back Rex as D coordinator - let Rex do what he does best. Bears won one with Ditka head coach and Rex’s Dad as D coordinator so I think Rex would go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, nico002 said: I don’t care what the stats say- we have a top 10 defense. And I want Bowles fired. Wut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, nico002 said: I don’t care what the stats say- we have a top 10 defense. And I want Bowles fired. Top 10 in what? Combined defensive holding/pass interference calls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, nico002 said: I don’t care what the stats say- we have a top 10 defense. And I want Bowles fired. what are you smoking so early in the day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Based on what? Crappy offense can impact the defense The jets are 16th in efficiency https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, nico002 said: I don’t care what the stats say- we have a top 10 defense. uhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Going into the season the " powers that be" touted this as a top five defense. Only missed by 21 spots. About as accurate as the rest of this "Braintrusts" judgements. Par for the course. Get out the broom. Nico002, I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Rexs worst D was, like, 8th... with no legit pass rush... and we had crap at QB the whole way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 And I bet we rank near number 1, in terms of D investment, ie - premium draft picks, FA $ past 10 years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Top 10 in what? Combined defensive holding/pass interference calls? on ignant/ignore list since week 3. do the same. dont expose yourself. its bad for the brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, Losmeister said: Rexs worst D was, like, 8th... with no legit pass rush... and we had crap at QB the whole way He took basically the same consistently 18th or so ranked D under mangini, and instantly make it number 1 overall.. I don’t think the credit all goes to bart scott? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Have you guys watched the NFL this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 minute ago, nico002 said: Have you guys watched the NFL this year? will someone rush out and buy this schmuck some "i know wtf i am talking about" ,please... should be on sale, now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 That low? I thought Captain Big Mouth was going to change all that. Bowles will not even get an interview for a DC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 56 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1 When Rex was our coach we damn well new what our ranking was as he reminded everyone every chance he got. With our draft history of drafting exclusively defensive players in the first round for 10 years and only defensive head coaches for 20 years this is very embarrassing. Pathetic is the more appropriate word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 40 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1 When Rex was our coach we damn well new what our ranking was as he reminded everyone every chance he got. With our draft history of drafting exclusively defensive players in the first round for 10 years and only defensive head coaches for 20 years this is very embarrassing. Hey look at the huge silver lining though. If the Jets just had an average to bad HC these last 4 years, then you can forget about having not only a Franchise QB in Sam Darnold but he is looking more and more every day to be a potential #1 QB in the entire league as Tony Romo has projected. I've already seen him hit throws most of the QB's in the league can't. Without Bowles being so horrific (and don't leave out Maccagnan) and keeping his buddy as DC while throwing virtually all other assistants under the bus, and watching their D implode virtually 100% of the time when if they were able to just put up a stand just 1 time at the end of games the outcome was victory. Last 2 weeks great example..Darnold had Houston and Aaron Rodgers beat all by himself....then you'd be stuck watching the Jets trying to get the next Hackenberg to play at the pro level as they would draft yearly in no man's land, or even worse bringing in the next washed up Boomer Esiason type (would have loved Boomer to have been the Jet QB, but 10 years before they got him) in hopes of securing a .500 record and everyone in the Jet Mom & Pop Shop being able to keep their jobs...forget about winning. The Jet organization for decades has been about inept people covering for their friends....I don't think Sam Darnold will allow that anymore because first and foremost he's all about winning...if it continues he'll leave. That's why I think the Jets will finally pay for top quality at coach and the Front Office. They have their Crown Jewel in Darnold, it just makes good business sense. Yup if you look at the big picture all Jet fans should owe Bowles a huge amount of gratitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 #1 in self promotional tweets tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: Hey look at the huge silver lining though. If the Jets just had an average to bad HC these last 4 years, then you can forget about having not only a Franchise QB in Sam Darnold but he is looking more and more every day to be a potential #1 QB in the entire league as Tony Romo has projected. I've already seen him hit throws most of the QB's in the league can't. Without Bowles being so horrific (and don't leave out Maccagnan) and keeping his buddy as DC while throwing virtually all other assistants under the bus, and watching their D implode virtually 100% of the time when if they were able to just put up a stand just 1 time at the end of games the outcome was victory. Last 2 weeks great example..Darnold had Houston and Aaron Rodgers beat all by himself....then you'd be stuck watching the Jets trying to get the next Hackenberg to play at the pro level as they would draft yearly in no man's land, or even worse bringing in the next washed up Boomer Esiason type (would have loved Boomer to have been the Jet QB, but 10 years before they got him) in hopes of securing a .500 record and everyone in the Jet Mom & Pop Shop being able to keep their jobs...forget about winning. The Jet organization for decades has been about inept people covering for their friends....I don't think Sam Darnold will allow that anymore because first and foremost he's all about winning...if it continues he'll leave. That's why I think the Jets will finally pay for top quality at coach and the Front Office. They have their Crown Jewel in Darnold, it just makes good business sense. Yup if you look at the big picture all Jet fans should owe Bowles a huge amount of gratitude. wanker-post. kick bowles in arse on the way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetsbb said: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1 When Rex was our coach we damn well new what our ranking was as he reminded everyone every chance he got. With our draft history of drafting exclusively defensive players in the first round for 10 years and only defensive head coaches for 20 years this is very embarrassing. And we all know that the failed defense is part of the reason why hes getting fired. But for some reason we need a daily thread sounding shocked. And even more puzzling, why the hell is it embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Losmeister said: Rexs worst D was, like, 8th... with no legit pass rush... and we had crap at QB the whole way And Rex's defense consistently gave up 4th quarter last drive leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Zero pass rush, CBs Suck and Bowles cannot make an adjustment ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: And Rex's defense consistently gave up 4th quarter last drive leads. If anything Rex overachieved here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Nixhead said: McCarthy for head coach. Bring back Rex as D coordinator - let Rex do what he does best. Bears won one with Ditka head coach and Rex’s Dad as D coordinator so I think Rex would go for it. Rex ain’t coming back. Hire Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 I don't understand all the revisionist history about the Rex Ryan regime. Truth is/was that the last two years, Rex defense {granted it was a sight better than the sh*t Bowles throws out there} was nothing to write home about. Homogenous, mostly soft and uninspiring. I can remember many second half meltdowns similar to the ones we suffer through now. We have experienced enough slow deaths through soft "prevent" type schemes to last a lifetime. I have no appetite to see this "Clown Show" make a repeat performance in this town. BTW Rob is WORSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 We are 2nd in the NFL in 3rd down conversion % allowed and 7th in red zone TD %. Yet we are 26 in total defense and 27 in scoring defense. That is not an easy thing to do. We have a defense that gives up way too many big plays in big spots, busts coverages and don't ever expect them to make a play with the game on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Jetsbb said: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1 When Rex was our coach we damn well new what our ranking was as he reminded everyone every chance he got. With our draft history of drafting exclusively defensive players in the first round for 10 years and only defensive head coaches for 20 years this is very embarrassing. Consistent. Last year we finished 25th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 I couldn’t find this stat but number of plays the opponent completed of over 20 yards. And esp on 3rd downs. On average Jets D gave up 5.7 per play which was above average. But how many times did you see the team make stops on the first two downs and give up 3rd and longs. That’s my prob with Bowles defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 hours ago, SheaRay said: So in other words TB brings nothing to the table in terms of being a head coach. He does have extraordinary clock management skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Again all you hear about critiques of our defense is “lack of technique” “out of position” and “miscommunication”. That screams bad coaching not bad talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 This is what you get when you're constantly neglecting defense in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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