I don't understand the Darnold hate right now.

[hamat711]

Everybody has a bad game.

It doesn't help that he was probably playing a top 5 defense who might already be in midseason form since they brought back so many players.

Darnold might even struggle next week playing another top 5 defense from last year in San Fran, but that is ok. If it stays this bad around the bye week, maybe you can start to think of his replacement or competition.

This was an unconventional off-season and it might take longer for certain teams to hit full stride.

 

It also doesn't help that Darnold needs to be perfect for the offense to have any sort of success. Nobody on the Jets offense scares defenses.

Mac and even Joe Douglas have done a poor job making Darnold feel comfortable and surrounding him with Talent. Yes, Mac did create a mess, but Douglas hasn't done a good job in cleaning it up either. Outside of the Jamal haul, Douglas has made the obvious moves that many  on this board would have done themselves. The Jets should have focused on keeping talent and building on top of it, instead of trading and letting go of decent players, regardless of the draft capital invested of them.

What are the Jets even saving their cap space for? It's not like they have any upcoming contracts they need to prepare for anyway. Are they saving cap space to sign free agents that other teams didn't want? Elite players aren't hitting free agency anymore. If they are really good, they get traded. There are plenty of decent players that the Jets got rid of that would still be starting on the Jets right now. Even if the the Jamal haul was good, the Jets still failed to manage Jamal and were forced to trade away a blue chip defender.

I'm not a Jet's fan, but it's not ever yet for you guys.

Relax, it's only week one.

[pointman]

TL, DR. To respond to the title though, if you don't understand it, it means you either didn't watch the game or you don't understand football at all. 

[Guilhermezmc]

3 years in and I still have to relax when he throws a crossbody duck to the other team.

 

[Patriot Killa]

Appreciate this

[Sonny Werblin]

I know “It’s not ever yet” is a typo, but man it should be the Jets official motto.

[Scoop24]

Its not just week 1.. stop the excuses his mechanics looked like sh*t

[GreekJet]

Expectations are that Darnold can at least hold his head above water and keep the Jets competitive. He was (a big) part of the problem today not the solution. 
 

Facts:

The QB, the roster, and the coach can all be bad. That’s the case right now in Florham Park. 

This Gase/Darnold connection=Bad offense. Jets fans are sick and tired of it. 

[shuler82]

Maybe because when he did have time, he was badly missing WRs? Maybe because of his horrible INT?  Maybe because of the delay of game, the horrible sack or the inability to get a play run in the first half at the 2 minute warning when they got to the line with 2:13 left?

I like Sam. But the opportunities were there today, and he didn't deliver. 

[Patriot Killa]

Just now, Scoop24 said:

Its not just week 1.. stop the excuses his mechanics looked like sh*t

He’s a bill fan. He’s not making excuses to comfort us. 

I do think Sam’s regression is absolutely a huge issue & a real thing but I think he’s just saying...wait for the flatline results.

[RedBeardedSavage]

The roster sucks, the coach sucks, and at least today, Darnold sucked. 

[hamat711]

2 minutes ago, pointman said:

TL, DR. To respond to the title though, if you don't understand it, it means you either didn't watch the game or you don't understand football at all. 

I'm a Bills fan who has never missed a game in years.

Darnold missed a few passes key early and the defense was getting gashed early. By the second quarter the Jets were forced to air the ball out, which isn't the strength of their roster, and plays into the Bills strength. 

Darnold had a cold streak at a poor time, but it isn't the end of the world.

[RoadFan]

If you didn't see the number 14 and the name "Darnold" on his jersey... you wouldn't be making excuses.

We watched Rex Grossman today.

[GreekJet]

2 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

Its not just week 1.. stop the excuses his mechanics looked like sh*t

I don’t think it’s his mechanics as much as it is his ability to step up in the pocket and deliver a strike knowing he might take a hit. San Francisco is going to feast on him next week.

[Lith]

2 minutes ago, GreekJet said:

The QB, the roster, and the coach can all be bad. That’s the case right now in Florham Park. 

This puts it as succintly as possible.  There is a lot wrong with this team right now. Including the play of the QB.  He has 15 weeks to win me over, because as of now, I do not think he is the answer.

[HtownJet]

Very little returns on Darnold so far, a bit concerning.

[Ghost420]

6 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

The roster sucks, the coach sucks, and at least today, Darnold sucked. 

Darnold has sucked for 90% of his career so far. 

[Prodigal Syndicate]

Darnold looks like a bust. This isnt week 1 of his career. This is year 3. Enough with excuses.

 

Just watch Anderson become a 1000 yard receiver now that he is free from this team.

[JiFtheOracle]

Everyone over reacts to week one but come on man he was horrible.  The mindless mistakes continue.

[Jimmy 2 Times]

I think the biggest concern with Darnold is he bails on the pocket instead of stepping up and making the throw.  

Then, instead of running for the easy first down after he bails, he forces awkward throws that get picked. 

 

He needs to look in the mirror, realize that it takes a MAN to play quarterback at a high level, and start standing in the pocket.

 

 

 

He might be shell shocked after last year's beating. 

[Larz]

It’s interesting to note that maccagnan actually passed.......

 

[GreekJet]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

I think the biggest concern with Darnold is he bails on the pocket instead of stepping up and making the throw.  

Then, instead of running for the easy first down after he bails, he forces awkward throws that get picked. 

 

He needs to look in the mirror, realize that it takes a MAN to play quarterback at a high level, and start standing in the pocket.

He might be shell shocked after last year's beating. 

He was doing that as a rookie. Sam has his eyes on the pass rush instead of downfield. It’s the same issue Hackenberg had coming out. 

[southtown24th]

27 Career Starts

 

That's a good enough sample size for me.  He doesn't have "it".  Sorry.  I was a massive Sam Darnold fan boy until today. Same old same old same old. Rinse, repeat.

Adios, Sam.

 

NEXT!

[Vader]

20 minutes ago, hamat711 said:

Everybody has a bad game.

It doesn't help that he was probably playing a top 5 defense who might already be in midseason form since they brought back so many players.

Darnold might even struggle next week playing another top 5 defense from last year in San Fran, but that is ok. If it stays this bad around the bye week, maybe you can start to think of his replacement or competition.

This was an unconventional off-season and it might take longer for certain teams to hit full stride.

 

It also doesn't help that Darnold needs to be perfect for the offense to have any sort of success. Nobody on the Jets offense scares defenses.

Mac and even Joe Douglas have done a poor job making Darnold feel comfortable and surrounding him with Talent. Yes, Mac did create a mess, but Douglas hasn't done a good job in cleaning it up either. Outside of the Jamal haul, Douglas has made the obvious moves that many  on this board would have done themselves. The Jets should have focused on keeping talent and building on top of it, instead of trading and letting go of decent players, regardless of the draft capital invested of them.

What are the Jets even saving their cap space for? It's not like they have any upcoming contracts they need to prepare for anyway. Are they saving cap space to sign free agents that other teams didn't want? Elite players aren't hitting free agency anymore. If they are really good, they get traded. There are plenty of decent players that the Jets got rid of that would still be starting on the Jets right now. Even if the the Jamal haul was good, the Jets still failed to manage Jamal and were forced to trade away a blue chip defender.

I'm not a Jet's fan, but it's not ever yet for you guys.

Relax, it's only week one.

Just no 

[TuscanyTile2]

18 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

Its not just week 1.. stop the excuses his mechanics looked like sh*t

The same was said about Eli, who didn't turn things around until about 3.5 years into his career.

[pdxgreen]

You know when a player is having severe problems  at their position.  When a batter can't hit major league pitching.  When a center mid in soccer cant repossess and push the ball.  When a qb can't operaate an offense to be competitive.  The Bills were being adventurous and running things to hound the Jets weakness.  But he didn't even look like an NFL QB out there.  That could keep the Jets in the game.  It wasn't "oh well, Sam's trying to make stuff happen and the line won't protect him." His play took us out for much of the game. That's a HUGE problem going forward.

[ryu79]

Agree with OP. 

(Also, when he inevitably plays well again, he won't be the second coming of Steve Young then either).

[bitonti]

Unconditional love. Awwwww

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[RutgersJetFan]

3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Unconditional love. Awwwww

Sent from my Pixel 2 using JetNation.com mobile app
 

Is this surprising? We had several posters on this site that attached themselves to Hackenberg. 

[ScarletKnight89]

The whole "they're playing a top 5 defense" is such a weak argument. 

So what level of defense do we have to be facing to expect our 3rd overall pick to play well against? Bottom 10? Can he look decent against a bottom 10 defense? 

If he's going to always struggle against the better defenses in the league, then he's just not that good. 

[playtowinthegame]

3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

The same was said about Eli, who didn't turn things around until about 3.5 years into his career.

[Y3k]

3 hours ago, pdxgreen said:

You know when a player is having severe problems  at their position.  When a batter can't hit major league pitching.  When a center mid in soccer cant repossess and push the ball.  When a qb can't operaate an offense to be competitive.  The Bills were being adventurous and running things to hound the Jets weakness.  But he didn't even look like an NFL QB out there.  That could keep the Jets in the game.  It wasn't "oh well, Sam's trying to make stuff happen and the line won't protect him." His play took us out for much of the game. That's a HUGE problem going forward.

That’s flat out not true. As a fan you may have felt that level of frustration,  but Darnold simply misses 2-3 throws he usually makes. The pick, the delay is game, and the running out of bounds gas no impact on the game. The jets converted first downs on those plays and got the ball back after the pick... 

[BurnleyJet]

3 hours ago, hamat711 said:

Everybody has a bad game.

It doesn't help that he was probably playing a top 5 defense who might already be in midseason form since they brought back so many players.

Darnold might even struggle next week playing another top 5 defense from last year in San Fran, but that is ok. If it stays this bad around the bye week, maybe you can start to think of his replacement or competition.

This was an unconventional off-season and it might take longer for certain teams to hit full stride.

 

It also doesn't help that Darnold needs to be perfect for the offense to have any sort of success. Nobody on the Jets offense scares defenses.

Mac and even Joe Douglas have done a poor job making Darnold feel comfortable and surrounding him with Talent. Yes, Mac did create a mess, but Douglas hasn't done a good job in cleaning it up either. Outside of the Jamal haul, Douglas has made the obvious moves that many  on this board would have done themselves. The Jets should have focused on keeping talent and building on top of it, instead of trading and letting go of decent players, regardless of the draft capital invested of them.

What are the Jets even saving their cap space for? It's not like they have any upcoming contracts they need to prepare for anyway. Are they saving cap space to sign free agents that other teams didn't want? Elite players aren't hitting free agency anymore. If they are really good, they get traded. There are plenty of decent players that the Jets got rid of that would still be starting on the Jets right now. Even if the the Jamal haul was good, the Jets still failed to manage Jamal and were forced to trade away a blue chip defender.

I'm not a Jet's fan, but it's not ever yet for you guys.

Relax, it's only week one.

Top Trolling 5*’s

[hamat711]

27 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

The whole "they're playing a top 5 defense" is such a weak argument. 

So what level of defense do we have to be facing to expect our 3rd overall pick to play well against? Bottom 10? Can he look decent against a bottom 10 defense? 

If he's going to always struggle against the better defenses in the league, then he's just not that good. 

It isn't uncommon for Elite QBs to struggle vs top defenses. Since 2018, Buffalo has only allowed 1.15 TDs per game,185 passing yards per game and they get 0.9 Interceptions per game. These are almost identical to Darnold's numbers except he had slightly more passing yards.

 

The Bills have been doing this for the last two years to everybody. That was literally an average week for the Bills pass D.

Most Elite Qbs would struggle vs top Defenses with Darnold's supporting cast.

[Lot K Tailgaters]

Darnold showed some promise towards the end of the season especially the Redskins and Raiders.  He looked awful today.  
 

The Jets have a new OL who hasn’t gelled.  They have also not kept any consistent WRs for him.  
 

Darnold has his issues but Trevor Lawerence isn’t going to be the savior either.   This team needs some WRs who are here every season for whoever the QB is.  

[pdxgreen]

34 minutes ago, Y3k said:

That’s flat out not true. As a fan you may have felt that level of frustration,  but Darnold simply misses 2-3 throws he usually makes. The pick, the delay is game, and the running out of bounds gas no impact on the game. The jets converted first downs on those plays and got the ball back after the pick... 

It's not just him having a bad game.  If anything he's regressed since I first really took a look at him at USC in 2016.  Three years of inconsistent offensive play calling and terrible QB coaching has really done him in.  There always moments that stand out... but eventually your QB involves into what they are going to be and his decision making and hesitancy out there really worried me.