Paradis Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Too bad the other thread was locked (ridiculous)...Wanted to flesh out that list of DBs @Lith posted but lost the inspiration now I'm more intrigued and curious about our Secondary, than I have been since Revis-Cro was a thing. Feels like we've avoided rostering a bunch of uninspiring JAGs, as well as doomed to fail low ceiling guys which seems to be our M.O. since like 2013. TON of position versatility there. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Year four, Mims is going to be great this year! all you damn naysayers, how can you judge him if he does not have any training camp and only plays 6 games a year! It's not fair! Same issues from same players as last year. As I said in another thread the other day our TE's STINK Some nice comments about some of the rookie DB's though which is good. Also Douglas picks up from McCagnan on how much he values kickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Beerfish said: It has not been long but so far this fellow flat out annoys me. Not sure why, don't like his style whether it is positive or negative comments. Not a fan either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Is being "A Dog" a good thing? Ask jamal adams 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Is it me but does it seem like our receivers/TE's drop a lot of passes? And the fact that he likes Berrios likely means he would LOVE Crowder 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Hey @The Crusher..... Does having Wilson inoculate us from the disease of poor QB play? Put differently, does he vaccinate the Jets from a future of horrible QB play, do you think? Thanks in advance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fullblast Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: Hey @The Crusher..... Does having Wilson inoculate us from the disease of poor QB play? Put differently, does he vaccinate the Jets from a future of horrible QB play, do you think? Thanks in advance. The Zach-cine 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Beerfish said: It has not been long but so far this fellow flat out annoys me. Not sure why, don't like his style whether it is positive or negative comments. He has mentioned over 20 times that Wilson holds the ball to long. Only scribe to bring it up, probably not happening. He's a Dolphins fan, works for the NYDN. You know he's just waiting for something to happen on the Jets, or with Wilson, so he can go all Mehta on them. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Is being "A Dog" a good thing? I remember when we drafted Ardarius Stewart they said he had "A Dog mentality" Based on that I'm guessing no. No, it's not good. Not good at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, fullblast said: The Zach-cine Damn. Well played. o7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, flgreen said: He has mentioned over 20 times that Wilson holds the ball to long. Only scribe to bring it up, probably not happening. He's a Dolphins fan, works for the NYDN. You know he's just waiting for something to happen on the Jets, or with Wilson, so he can go all Mehta on them. The 5 "worst" QBs in snap to throw last season were: Josh Allen (AFC Championship) Baker Mayfield (2nd Round Playoffs) Lamar Jackson (2nd Round Playoffs) Daniel Jones (exception to prove the rule) Patrick Mahomes (Superbowl) The best QBs in the league hold onto the ball too long. The days of the quick pass, get it out of the QB's hands as fast as possible days are ending. Now teams want QBs who can extend plays. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: The 5 "worst" QBs in snap to throw last season were: Josh Allen (AFC Championship) Baker Mayfield (2nd Round Playoffs) Lamar Jackson (2nd Round Playoffs) Daniel Jones (exception to prove the rule) Patrick Mahomes (Superbowl) The best QBs in the league hold onto the ball too long. The days of the quick pass, get it out of the QB's hands as fast as possible days are ending. Now teams want QBs who can extend plays. Major difference between "holding the ball to long, and being mobile to extend a play. When a QB is holding the ball to long he is being indecisive, and can't make a quick decision. Sam was the master of holding the ball to long and making the OL look real bad. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Not to total Karen the hell out over here, but it’s just ignorant we have people who’ve been here forever and can’t keep on topic. We all appreciate you guys getting our original thread locked. @Lith here you are. If you're a male you'd be Cameron regardless of how you choose to identify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Why don't you walk me through the confusion, @jetsons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, fullblast said: The Zach-cine Vaccapono 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: Is it me but does it seem like our receivers/TE's drop a lot of passes? It's been the TE's almost exclusively. They need to address the position via Trade pretty aggressively prior to camp if they want to help Wilson grow. They currently have no reliable TE's in an offense that relies on TE's as an outlet for the QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, choon328 said: It's been the TE's almost exclusively. They need to address the position via Trade pretty aggressively prior to camp if they want to help Wilson grow. They currently have no rewritable TE's in an offense that relies in TE's as an outlet for the QB. A healthy Zach Ertz is a good option or maybe trade for David Njoku. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post flgreen Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes Brant Boyer says that Michael Carter (RB) & Elijah Moore get to the #Jets facility at 6:30am, before everyone else, to get in extra work. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, fullblast said: The Zach-cine Love this one, fb. The J&J Zack-cine, perhaps? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Hey @The Crusher..... Does having Wilson inoculate us from the disease of poor QB play? Put differently, does he vaccinate the Jets from a future of horrible QB play, do you think? Thanks in advance. I would start with herd immunity from the Mono and go from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email Practice: Zach Wilson didn't have his best day, but it wasn't his worst. Efficient in 7-on-7 (8-for-11), a little spotty in 11-on-11 (7-for-11). Had 1 INT (not his fault) and one near-INT (bad throw). Top 4 WRs weren't on field ... Mike White had best throw of the day ... Nice days for WRs Braxton Berrios and Elijah Moore ... With CB Bless Austin (undisclosed) out, rookie Isaiah Dunn got reps with 1s ... TE Chris Herndon had drop (INT) and a couple of nice catches ... WR Man Bailey impressed. Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer45m ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, flgreen said: Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes Brant Boyer says that Michael Carter (RB) & Elijah Moore get to the #Jets facility at 6:30am, before everyone else, to get in extra work. Elijah moore is going to be an antonio brown level of player (hopefully without the going insane part) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Jets could have dynamic X-factor with Elijah Moore The presence of Moore could have an impact on Jamison Crowder Ralph VacchianoNFL Insider 6/10/2021 4:00pm FLORHAM PARK, N.J. – Zach Wilson has spent the spring showing everyone why the Jets made him their next franchise quarterback. He’s dazzled with his arm strength and accuracy and his ability to throw on the run. But his best passes have often seemed to be the ones he threw to fellow rookie Elijah Moore. Moore, the Jets’ second-round pick, has been just as impressive so far this spring. He is “a dynamic young man,” as head coach Robert Saleh described him on Thursday, with speed and moves that make him difficult for defenses to catch. In fact, it’s been clear that this Jets defense often has trouble keeping up with him. Moore has shown a knack for getting open, both deep and in much tighter spaces. That makes him a potentially dangerous weapon in both the open field and the red zone. And it sounds like Saleh intends to use him wherever and whenever he can. “What makes those guys difficult to defend is that he can line up wherever he wants and he’s going to execute at a very high level,” Saleh said, “even though the routes might be a little bit different, the steps might be different, the releases might be a little bit different.” That’s the kind of weapon Saleh loves, and one that fits so well into the Kyle Shanahan offense that the Jets intend to run. They see him as similar to what Deebo Samuel was with the 49ers – a receiver who can be effective regardless of where he lines up. There are differences, though. Moore, at 5-9, is a little smaller than Samuel (5-10) and several scouts had him pegged as more of a slot receiver before the draft. That makes some sense, since the Jets have Corey Davis and Denzel Mims, both 6-4, on the outside. And they’ll need a long-term replacement for 5-9 slot receiver Jamison Crowder, who hasn’t been at spring practices yet while the Jets try to get him to accept a cut in his $10 million salary. Dec 20, 2020; Inglewood, California, USA; New York Jets wide receiver Jamison Crowder (82) carries the ball aLos Angeles Rams in the third quarter at SoFi Stadium. The Jets defeated the Rams 23-20. Judging by the way he’s been used this spring, though, Moore could be more than just Crowder’s replacement. He has lined up all over the field, often using his 4.3 speed to beat the Jets’ defensive backs in deep routes down the field. His shiftiness has played well whether he’s lined up outside or in the slot. He’s proven to be a mismatch wherever his routes start. “He’s showcasing his ability to be as versatile as possible, in terms of being in different parts of the field, being in different positions, understanding what needs to get done,” Saleh said. “So when the ball gets to his hands he can still do what he does best, which is run after the catch. So that part is what makes him so difficult to defend.” If Crowder really does still have a role in the Jets’ offense, as Saleh has promised, that versatility will be important for Moore. And it’s easy to see how he could quickly become a Wilson favorite. They already clearly have chemistry, which they’ve been working on since Moore was selected on the second day of the draft. And with so many other options in the Jets’ revamped offense, Moore could easily get lost by opposing defenses – at least at the start. It’s early, of course. He hasn’t faced a real NFL defense yet – one that had a chance to game-plan for him and is coming at him full-speed. But Moore clearly has the skills. He had 86 catches for 1,193 yards at Ole Miss last year, leading the country with an average of 149.1 receiving yards per game. There’s no doubt, the Jets could use a “dynamic” weapon like that. “We’re excited to have him,” Saleh said. “His work ethic is off the charts. His mindset is off the charts. So we’re excited to continue working with him to see him get better.” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Too bad the other thread was locked (ridiculous)...Wanted to flesh out that list of DBs @Lith posted but lost the inspiration now I'm more intrigued and curious about our Secondary, than I have been since Revis-Cro was a thing. Feels like we've avoided rostering a bunch of uninspiring JAGs, as well as doomed to fail low ceiling guys which seems to be our M.O. since like 2013. TON of position versatility there. 1 hour ago, Paradis said: Why don't you walk me through the confusion, @jetsons You "lost the inspiration now"... Really??? ? ... and people say Mekhi is soft. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Too bad the other thread was locked (ridiculous)...Wanted to flesh out that list of DBs @Lith posted but lost the inspiration now I'm more intrigued and curious about our Secondary, than I have been since Revis-Cro was a thing. Feels like we've avoided rostering a bunch of uninspiring JAGs, as well as doomed to fail low ceiling guys which seems to be our M.O. since like 2013. TON of position versatility there. 4 hours ago, Lith said: From Spotrac -- they still include Nasirildeen and Sherwood who are likely to play LB for us. Marcus MayeFS LaMarcus JoynerFS Justin HardeeCB Ashtyn DavisFS Blessuan AustinCB Bryce HallCB Corey BallentineCB J.T. HassellS Bennett JacksonCB Elijah CampbellS Javelin Guidry Jr.CB Lamar JacksonCB Jamien SherwoodS Michael CarterCB Jason PinnockCB Hamsah NasirildeenS Brandin EcholsCB Isaiah DunnCB Jordyn PetersS Zane LewisCB Brendon WhiteS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Isaiah Dunn is gonna be a good player for us. I got a feeling about this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HawkeyeJet Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Lith said: The Mormon Maltese 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lith said: Best buddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Best buddies. With Moore too. IMO Crowder really screwed up not showing for OTA's because the Jets asked him to take a pay cut. What he should have done was show up, do what Berrios is doing, created a bond with Zach. Showed the Jets why he's worth $10M. Now he's odd man out. Wilson doesn't even know who he is, and has bonded solid with the other two slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, flgreen said: Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes Brant Boyer says that Michael Carter (RB) & Elijah Moore get to the #Jets facility at 6:30am, before everyone else, to get in extra work. Working summer jobs with my uncle back in the late 60s/70s, they were already an hour and a half late. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: It has not been long but so far this fellow flat out annoys me. Not sure why, don't like his style whether it is positive or negative comments. Too many of his takes are snarky from calling Wilson the savior etc. They also are quite different than what others are tweeting watching the same OTAs. Seems like the NYDN has found another Manish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDecker Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Lith said: Need mo dawgs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 hours ago, flgreen said: Jets kickers missed four of seven attempts in the kicking gauntlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Working summer jobs with my uncle back in the late 60s/70s, they were already an hour and a half late. lol yea, and in the winter that 20 mile walk up hill in the snow to go school everyday was a killer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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